[Retros] Messigny 2013 results

[Joost de Heer]

On 07/04/2013 10:56 PM, Thomas Maeder wrote:

> Am 04.07.2013 21:10, schrieb Joost de Heer:

>>

>> How does Madrasi+Maximummer work? Or Madrasi+Haan vs Maximummer+Haan?

>

> I'm sure that nobody has ever defined it.

>

> Popeye implements Madrasi+Maximummer with regular (non-Maximummer)

> paralysis. I.e. in the position white ra1 black ra5, the rooks are

> paralysed even if the distance to h1/h5 is longer than to the other

> rook. Other programs may well do this differently.

>

> In Madrasi+Haan, observation doesn't go through holes. This seems very

> natural, so I doubt that any program would do this differently.

>

> I don't get the question about Maximummer+Haan.

>

> All this seems unrelated to my previous post, though.


Case 1: With Madrasi, castling is just a kingmove. With maximummer it's 
both a king- and a rookmove. So what is it with Madrasi+Maximummer? In 
your position, queenside castling is possible under the madrasi rule, 
but if it's also a rookmove according to maximummer, then it's not legal 
because the rook is paralysed.

In combination with Haan: If castling is a king-move, then only e1 
should be a hole after castling. If castling is both a rook- and a 
kingmove, both a1 and e1 (in case of queenside castling) should be holes 
after castling. So haan would work differently in combination with 
Madrasi than in combination with maximummer.

Joost