[Retros] Messigny 2006

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Mon Jul 24 18:22:01 EDT 2006


 
Gerd wrote :
BTW, I don't agree that both 2nd HM ex aequo show a Pronkin-AUW because  it
cannot be proven that Ra1 and Nb1 are really Pronkin pieces, i.e. it  cannot
be proven that they occupy the squares of original pieces which have  been
captured. But this is of course a question of the definition of  "Pronkin" in
classical retros. For a "strict" Pronkin AUW at least 5  promotions are
necessary (2 Night promotions because Nights may exchange  places in the
initial phase of the game).
Here is my setting with 4  "strict" Pronkin  promotions:
1n5n/pp3Ppk/2p1pRpb/5pp1/8/8/4P1PP/1NBQKBNR
12+12
Pronkin  pieces Dd1, Bc1, Nb1, Ng1


Andrey wrote :
The solution of 1st Commendation seems to be misrepresented, because  white 
pawns b3, d2 and g2 rule out the return of Rg5 to a1. b4xa5 seems to be a  
sufficient remedy


 
 
Oops.
So, I made some other mistakes with this award. It was not only quick  
composing for the composers but also quick judging for the judge...
 
I missed the point in Gerd's problem and thus discarded it to the benefice  
of Andrey's and Thierry's ones. But it was indeed the only entry with 4 
"strict"  Pronkin promotions. The drawback of this rendering is that the retroplay is 
not  so precise that in the "not strict" renderings (Dd1 could have been 
promoted on  c8 or d8 for example).
So I reintegrate Gerd's problem in the award as another 2nd HM ex aequo  with 
Andrey and Thierry.
 
The second mistake pointed by Andrey is less important; I indeed wrongly  
retranscripted the solution by Gerd.
 
Best wishes,
 Michel
 
 
 
 
 
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