[W126 Coupe] Remembering The Past

[Viking Unlimited LTD]

Remembering the Old Days Regards to the Old goop & The Fun We Had.

>>

>> Atten: <><> The old Members that's made it happen

>>

>> .You can always rely on Steve Narvig to keep every thing in Order<><>

>> Without Steve we may not have "Any" of these great Pictures of all the

>> trips planed through the MBCoupes sight  <> For several years we were all

>> very active to make this sight the very best sight. We sure enjoyed the

>> pleasures of owing a Mercedes coupe.

>>

>> There was a lot of trips Planed & every one really enjoyed making plans

>> in advance making sure we had our two way radios to help enjoy the fast

>> pace (Speed) we laid down.<><> Think about the countless enthuses

>> spending years to finish a 55 Chevy. & only to figure out that car will

>> stay in the Garage for years<> maybe seeing daylight once a year to go to

>> a car show. Hummm <><> Not this goop we use to make it happen. Making big

>> planes Two or three timed a year we wanted to put down some miles. <><>

>> Every one always got alone & we looked forward in helping each other

>> making our Cars Perfect.

>>

>> Anyway I still have the White 88 SEC with almost 70,000.<> That made it

>> to the Las Vega & Kansas City Shows,  Its still Trouble Free in show Room

>> Condition <> One of my Best Memories was Leaving Las Vegas after the

>> Great Get-together we all worked on <><> Thanks to Mike Ramay & The

>> Cavazos in keeping every one on the right page,<><>  (What A great time

>> we had)  <> After the event Barry & Pattie Corno Judy and myself left Las

>> Vegas @ 9:30 AM and arrived in Portland ,OR @ 12:00 Midnight . Think

>> about it That is over 1000 Miles  In 14 1/2 hours included Gas & food

>> stops we laid down some speed and the SEC loved every minute of it."

>> Averaging" speeds "Over 105 going from Vega across the desert. Would you

>> do that with your 55 Chevy.  I have had restored Corvettes that sat in

>> the Garage for years putting 200 Miles on the car in five years.  Whets

>> it all about anyway.

>>

>> I have been Very Busy Building a New house and the cars have been Stored

>> I look forward in putting some Good times together again.

>>

>> Steve & Gerry  <><><> Have some of the right ideas " Maybe what we have

>> can still be as great as it has was in the Past.

>>

>> Thanks to all the old Timers.  We Had Some Fun

>>

>> Gary Dempsey

>>

>> Portland Oregon

>

> chinook at hevanet.com

>>

>> 88 SEC     White/Black

>> 84 SEC Euro AMG  Maroon/ Camel

>>

>>


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>   1. Re: Old folks (Ronny 560sec)

>   2. Re: Seat Lock Problem (Dick Spellman)

>   3. Re: Old folks (Barry Corno)

>   4. Ken, thanks for the photos of Las Vegas!!

>      (johnfolger at earthlink.net)

>   5. Any 1989's on the list? (Markus Meyer)

>   6. Re: Old folks (Bucks2 at aol.com)

>   7. Re: Old folks (Barry Corno)

>   8. Re: Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group (stephenw2 at comcast.net)

>   9. Re: Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group (Jay Hirsch)

>  10. Re: Front Seat Removal (L&D gardner)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:40:30 -0700

> From: "Ronny 560sec" <ronny.geenen at verizon.net>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Good to see all your pictures.

>

> Ronny

>

> From: Steve Nervig

> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 9:56 PM

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

>

> Hi, Ken. Yes indeed - the Vegas Meet was great, with special thanks to the 

> Ramays and the Cavazos. Photos are still viewable here, including a nice 

> write up by Jim Baubel. Several photos of you and your beautiful white 

> 1991 560SEC.

>

> <http://web.mac.com/dakota/Trips/Las_Vegas.html>

>

> Steve Nervig

> 1992 300CE Sportline

>

>

> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Bucks2 at aol.com wrote:

>

>

>  I too have moved on to an S class and no longer have and SEC, but I lurk 

> occasionally. I still wear my Las Vegas / Chicago get together polo shirt. 

> Good memories every time I drive by the Bahama Breeze restaurant when I'm 

> in Vegas, wishing I had a picture of 21 SEC's parked in the lot. Thanks 

> again Mike Ramay for a great get together.

>

>  Ken Buck

>

>

>  In a message dated 9/7/2011 3:28:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>    Don't have my SEC, but have a 300CE. Still like to keep up on what's 

> going on with the gang.

>    Jay

>

>

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> Message: 2

> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 12:38:01 -0400

> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock Problem

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Dan,

>

> They slide forward and then lift up at the front and continue pulling

> forward to release the tab at rear.

>

> The front most side edges slide under a metal lip and the back end of

> the cover has a plastic tongue.

>

> You need to find a way to gently tap the plastic cover so it slides

> forward.  Only needs to move perhaps 3/8 inch (8mm) or so to free it up.

>

> -\Dick

>

> On 9/7/2011 11:25 PM, L&D gardner wrote:

>> Hi Folks

>>

>> Thanks for the advise,I found the front plastic bolt covers very

>> difficult to remove,I slid flat bladed tools underneath but they seem

>> to be locked onto something unfortunate despite being very gentle I

>> cracked one.There must be a technique for removal,I have checked the

>> CD but cannot find any reference..If anyone has information on how to

>> remove these without breakage I would appreciate it.

>>

>>

>>                                                          Kind Regards

>> Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>>

>> From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

>> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> Message-ID: <E37E38F3955D4173938D20801EF17FE9 at wizzy>

>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>>

>> Hi Folks

>> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend

>> asked for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he

>> has hip joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about

>> to get in the passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing

>> down into the seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame

>> held together is a miracle!!

>> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect

>> the vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have

>> removed the rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to

>> remove the floor bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the

>> lock components and effect repair I would appreciate it.

>>

>>

>>                             Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC

>> Euro (220kw)

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>> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:06:47 -0400

>> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> Message-ID:

>> <CADkW9YgSDB6XF1wrF9-_Yq9p0udQ1jDQ4egQwNY3zi_HRJLh6A at mail.gmail.com>

>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

>>

>> Dan,

>>

>> Below is from waning memory.  Please check the cd manual for specifics.

>>

>> Slide the seat rearward and remove the two trim caps and two 13mm floor

>> bolts from the front cabin.

>> Slide the seat forward and remove the two 13mm bolts from the rear cabin

>> floor.

>> Remove the seat belt rail trim cover and bolt in rear cabin from the

>> side of

>> the transmission.   Rock the seat upward and disconnect the electrical

>> and

>> vacuum lines.

>> Now remove the seat to a bench and inspect for any frame damage.

>> Installation is the reverse process.

>>

>> The vacuum lead manages the seat back lock.  The electric harnesses

>> manage

>> seat belt latch indicator (2-wire?), seat movement (6,8 or 10 pin block?)

>> and electric heat (should be a relay box and harness under seat) if

>> equipped.

>>

>> The motors internal to the seat for rail front to back movement and seat

>> back elevation are run on thick black cables.  These can become loose

>> from

>> the motors leaving no action while the motors turn and can be repaired

>> on a

>> bench.

>>

>> Good luck,

>>

>> Dick

>>

>>

>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM, L&D gardner <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au> wrote:

>>

>>>   Hi Folks

>>> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend

>>> asked

>>> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has hip

>>> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get

>>> in the

>>> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

>>> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

>>> miracle!!

>>> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect the

>>> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have

>>> removed the

>>> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the floor

>>> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components and

>>> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>>>

>>>

>>> Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>>>

>>> The MB Coupes Website!

>>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

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>> Message: 12

>> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 07:27:47 -0700

>> From: Michael Ramay <mike.ramay at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> Message-ID:

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>>

>> Prior to removing the seat from the car, check the lock itself in the

>> seat

>> back - it's easier that moving that heavy, heavy seat. Move the seat

>> forward

>> a bit, lean the seat back forward and take out the two chrome philip head

>> screws on the bottom of the the plastic panel that is the back of the

>> seat.

>> With that panel off, you can see the seat lock and the vacuum line that

>> locks the seat. It's now easy to test the vacuum line with a Mity-Vac

>> to see

>> if it's still connected. It took longer to type this than it should

>> take to

>> do this!!

>> Mike

>>

>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Dick Spellman

>> <dick.spellman at gmail.com>wrote:

>>

>>> Dan,

>>>

>>> Below is from waning memory.  Please check the cd manual for specifics.

>>>

>>> Slide the seat rearward and remove the two trim caps and two 13mm floor

>>> bolts from the front cabin.

>>> Slide the seat forward and remove the two 13mm bolts from the rear cabin

>>> floor.

>>> Remove the seat belt rail trim cover and bolt in rear cabin from the

>>> side

>>> of the transmission.   Rock the seat upward and disconnect the

>>> electrical

>>> and vacuum lines.

>>> Now remove the seat to a bench and inspect for any frame damage.

>>> Installation is the reverse process.

>>>

>>> The vacuum lead manages the seat back lock.  The electric harnesses

>>> manage

>>> seat belt latch indicator (2-wire?), seat movement (6,8 or 10 pin

>>> block?)

>>> and electric heat (should be a relay box and harness under seat) if

>>> equipped.

>>>

>>> The motors internal to the seat for rail front to back movement and seat

>>> back elevation are run on thick black cables.  These can become loose

>>> from

>>> the motors leaving no action while the motors turn and can be

>>> repaired on a

>>> bench.

>>>

>>> Good luck,

>>>

>>> Dick

>>>

>>>

>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM, L&D gardner <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au> wrote:

>>>

>>>>   Hi Folks

>>>> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend

>>>> asked

>>>> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has

>>>> hip

>>>> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get

>>>> in the

>>>> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

>>>> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

>>>> miracle!!

>>>> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect

>>>> the

>>>> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have

>>>> removed the

>>>> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the

>>>> floor

>>>> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components

>>>> and

>>>> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>>>>

>

>

>

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> Message: 3

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 09:46:39 -0700

> From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> The fun day was the SPEED DRAFT  check it out.

>

>

>

> B.C.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com

> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Ronny 560sec

> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:41 PM

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

>

>

>

> Good to see all your pictures.

>

>

>

> Ronny

>

>

>

> From: Steve Nervig <mailto:dakota at mac.com>

>

> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 9:56 PM

>

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

>

>

>

> Hi, Ken. Yes indeed - the Vegas Meet was great, with special thanks to

> the Ramays and the Cavazos. Photos are still viewable here, including a

> nice write up by Jim Baubel. Several photos of you and your beautiful

> white 1991 560SEC.

>

>

>

> <http://web.mac.com/dakota/Trips/Las_Vegas.html>

>

>

>

> Steve Nervig

>

> 1992 300CE Sportline

>

>

>

>

>

> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Bucks2 at aol.com wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> I too have moved on to an S class and no longer have and SEC, but I lurk

> occasionally. I still wear my Las Vegas / Chicago get together polo

> shirt. Good memories every time I drive by the Bahama Breeze restaurant

> when I'm in Vegas, wishing I had a picture of 21 SEC's parked in the

> lot. Thanks again Mike Ramay for a great get together.

>

>

>

> Ken Buck

>

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 9/7/2011 3:28:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>

> Don't have my SEC, but have a 300CE. Still like to keep up on

> what's going on with the gang.

> Jay

>

>

>

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> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 13:00:13 -0400

> From: <johnfolger at earthlink.net>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Ken, thanks for the photos of Las Vegas!!

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> I have only been lurking since my beautiful 88 SEC got t-boned by a pickup

> truck within hours of getting it back from the performance shop. I guess 

> I'm

> still in mourning! I am still looking for her replacement. I continue to

> read every day and have joined the NEW list also.

> Many thanks to all that make this a great read during a busy day!!!

>

>

>

> John Folger

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>   1. Re: [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes attached to the

>      vents? (Dick Spellman)

>   2. Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group (190girl)

>   3. Re: [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes attached to the

>      vents? (Dick Spellman)

>   4. Re: Old folks (Bucks2 at aol.com)

>   5. Re: Seat Lock Problem (L&D gardner)

>   6. Re: Old folks (Steve Nervig)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:36:04 -0400

> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes

> attached to the vents?

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> Hi Yousef,

>

> That's the ETR valve for the AC.  It's perfectly normal to see

> condensate on that metal housing once the foam cover has been removed.

>

> Place a piece of tight cell foam over it when dry and place a dab of

> silicone adhesive on its face to hold the foam in place.  Try and

> surround the whole valve as was originally done with the apparently

> missing piece of MB foam.

>

> The foam will act as an insulator and you will no longer see condensate

> dripping from the valve.

>

> -\Dick

>

> On 9/7/2011 6:28 PM, Yousef wrote:

>> Hey All

>>

>> Ive noticed that there is a lont of water condensed on the outside on of

> the tube connected to the ac vent (driver side).. Is that normal..

>>

>> Also i have very limited knowledge when it comes AC.. CAn you guys tell 

>> me

> what this part is called and what does it do (golden thing )

>>

>> Cbeeg

>>

>>

>>

>> PS its really hot&  humid where i live (UAE)

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

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> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:08:04 -0400

> From: "190girl" <190girl at earthlink.net>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group

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> Dear SEC Coupes & Old School Members (Mostly Men but you Realize Who I Am 

> in

> Your Midst):

>

> Guys.........drop the poison as I have always decreed.  Our passion

> regarding the Classic Bruno Sacco Classic MBz Chassis Car Models years is

> SUPREME.  We retain the ownership, drive train mechanics, marque madness, 

> so

> lets' lay behind any harsh criticism to those who further our Guardian 

> Angel

> dreams in any manner be it new website, meets, etc etc, Collect ourselves

> and gather our strength what's left to shine and rock the world of what is

> doable and affordable and leave our Legacy to a world of new followers 

> with

> our collections and knowledge to light a world of the future on fire with

> our strong attachment to all manner of W126, 124, 107's.

> If we all could turn back the back the clock of time to ONLY know what a

> 1950's Gullwing was worth today in ANY condition we'd all be "rich" but

> "rich" is a state of mind.  Each one of us  is RICH is owning a SEC in 

> many

> forms well cared for to leave our imprint into the future generation of 

> gear

> heads.   We might be getting old, but those youngsters have passion and

> thirst, and we Old Schoolers can serve the future pipeline.

> I was Collector of 2011 featured in MBCA National Magazine in Jan Feb this

> year.....ageless, mega Passion, OEM are my passions .  They selected me to

> tell a story to younger collectors out there...........Don't Abandon Older

> Cars.  They Bring JOY and so shall you.

> I have been quiet on the List last 6 months but I am here for you.  I'd 

> love

> a 2012 meet and would host it...............but to share costs, I need TEN

> cars (Couiples, Singles, etc)

> Anybody game?

>

> Cheers,

>

> Legs

> Star Cruiser

>

>

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> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:59:38 -0400

> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes

> attached to the vents?

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> Yousef,

>

> The metal fittings on the hose can be wrapped or encased in foam tube as

> well.  From the pictures, it appears your hose(s) to the ETR (Evaporator

> Temperature Regulator) Valve were replaced on your MB at some point.

> That stain on the metal casing face is where MB applied the adhesive for

> the foam block that covered the valve.  The foam is structurally firm

> and perhaps 1/4 inch (6mm) in thickness.  Anything that will prevent the

> cabin air from contacting the metal should prevent any future condensate.

>

> -\Dick

>

>

> On 9/7/2011 6:28 PM, Yousef wrote:

>> Hey All

>>

>> Ive noticed that there is a lont of water condensed on the outside on of

> the tube connected to the ac vent (driver side).. Is that normal..

>>

>> Also i have very limited knowledge when it comes AC.. CAn you guys tell 

>> me

> what this part is called and what does it do (golden thing )

>>

>> Cbeeg

>>

>>

>>

>> PS its really hot&  humid where i live (UAE)

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>

>>

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> Message: 4

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 20:38:03 -0400 (EDT)

> From: Bucks2 at aol.com

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

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> I too have moved on to an S class and no longer have and SEC, but I lurk

> occasionally. I still wear my Las Vegas / Chicago get together polo shirt.

> Good  memories every time I drive by the Bahama Breeze restaurant when I'm

> in

> Vegas, wishing I had a picture of 21 SEC's parked in the lot. Thanks again

> Mike Ramay for a great get together.

>

> Ken Buck

>

>

>

> In a message dated 9/7/2011 3:28:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>

> Don't  have my SEC, but have a 300CE. Still like to keep up on what's 

> going

> on with  the gang.

> Jay

>

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> Message: 5

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:25:42 +0800

> From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock Problem

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <D9F2D69B3998433081D3D6B11DCAA578 at wizzy>

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>

> Hi Folks

>

> Thanks for the advise,I found the front plastic bolt covers very difficult

> to remove,I slid flat bladed tools underneath but they seem to be locked

> onto something unfortunate despite being very gentle I cracked one.There

> must be a technique for removal,I have checked the CD but cannot find any

> reference..If anyone has information on how to remove these without 

> breakage

>

> I would appreciate it.

>

>

>

>                                                          Kind Regards Dan

> Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>

> From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <E37E38F3955D4173938D20801EF17FE9 at wizzy>

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>

> Hi Folks

> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend asked

> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has hip

> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get in 

> the

> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

> miracle!!

> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect the

> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have removed 

> the

> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the floor

> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components and

> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>

>

>

>                             Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro

> (220kw)

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> Message: 11

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:06:47 -0400

> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Dan,

>

> Below is from waning memory.  Please check the cd manual for specifics.

>

> Slide the seat rearward and remove the two trim caps and two 13mm floor

> bolts from the front cabin.

> Slide the seat forward and remove the two 13mm bolts from the rear cabin

> floor.

> Remove the seat belt rail trim cover and bolt in rear cabin from the side 

> of

> the transmission.   Rock the seat upward and disconnect the electrical and

> vacuum lines.

> Now remove the seat to a bench and inspect for any frame damage.

> Installation is the reverse process.

>

> The vacuum lead manages the seat back lock.  The electric harnesses manage

> seat belt latch indicator (2-wire?), seat movement (6,8 or 10 pin block?)

> and electric heat (should be a relay box and harness under seat) if

> equipped.

>

> The motors internal to the seat for rail front to back movement and seat

> back elevation are run on thick black cables.  These can become loose from

> the motors leaving no action while the motors turn and can be repaired on 

> a

> bench.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Dick

>

>

> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM, L&D gardner <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au> wrote:

>

>>   Hi Folks

>> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend 

>> asked

>> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has hip

>> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get in

>> the

>> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

>> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

>> miracle!!

>> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect the

>> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have removed

>> the

>> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the floor

>> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components and

>> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>>

>>

>> Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>>

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

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> Message: 12

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 07:27:47 -0700

> From: Michael Ramay <mike.ramay at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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>

> Prior to removing the seat from the car, check the lock itself in the seat

> back - it's easier that moving that heavy, heavy seat. Move the seat 

> forward

> a bit, lean the seat back forward and take out the two chrome philip head

> screws on the bottom of the the plastic panel that is the back of the 

> seat.

> With that panel off, you can see the seat lock and the vacuum line that

> locks the seat. It's now easy to test the vacuum line with a Mity-Vac to 

> see

> if it's still connected. It took longer to type this than it should take 

> to

> do this!!

> Mike

>

> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Dick Spellman

> <dick.spellman at gmail.com>wrote:

>

>> Dan,

>>

>> Below is from waning memory.  Please check the cd manual for specifics.

>>

>> Slide the seat rearward and remove the two trim caps and two 13mm floor

>> bolts from the front cabin.

>> Slide the seat forward and remove the two 13mm bolts from the rear cabin

>> floor.

>> Remove the seat belt rail trim cover and bolt in rear cabin from the side

>> of the transmission.   Rock the seat upward and disconnect the electrical

>> and vacuum lines.

>> Now remove the seat to a bench and inspect for any frame damage.

>> Installation is the reverse process.

>>

>> The vacuum lead manages the seat back lock.  The electric harnesses 

>> manage

>> seat belt latch indicator (2-wire?), seat movement (6,8 or 10 pin block?)

>> and electric heat (should be a relay box and harness under seat) if

>> equipped.

>>

>> The motors internal to the seat for rail front to back movement and seat

>> back elevation are run on thick black cables.  These can become loose 

>> from

>> the motors leaving no action while the motors turn and can be repaired on

>> a

>> bench.

>>

>> Good luck,

>>

>> Dick

>>

>>

>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM, L&D gardner <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au> wrote:

>>

>>>   Hi Folks

>>> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend

>>> asked

>>> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has hip

>>> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get in

>>> the

>>> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

>>> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

>>> miracle!!

>>> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect the

>>> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have removed

>>> the

>>> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the floor

>>> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components and

>>> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>>>

>>>

>>> Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>>>

>>>

>>>

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> Message: 6

> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:56:11 -0700

> From: Steve Nervig <dakota at mac.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Hi, Ken. Yes indeed - the Vegas Meet was great, with special thanks to the

> Ramays and the Cavazos. Photos are still viewable here, including a nice

> write up by Jim Baubel. Several photos of you and your beautiful white 

> 1991

> 560SEC.

>

> <http://web.mac.com/dakota/Trips/Las_Vegas.html>

>

> Steve Nervig

> 1992 300CE Sportline

>

>

> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Bucks2 at aol.com wrote:

>

>> I too have moved on to an S class and no longer have and SEC, but I lurk

> occasionally. I still wear my Las Vegas / Chicago get together polo shirt.

> Good memories every time I drive by the Bahama Breeze restaurant when I'm 

> in

> Vegas, wishing I had a picture of 21 SEC's parked in the lot. Thanks again

> Mike Ramay for a great get together.

>>

>> Ken Buck

>>

>>

>> In a message dated 9/7/2011 3:28:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>> Don't have my SEC, but have a 300CE. Still like to keep up on what's 

>> going

> on with the gang.

>> Jay

>>

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> Message: 5

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 13:56:05 -0400

> From: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at gmail.com>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Any 1989's on the list?

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Anyone have a 1989 126 (V8) on the list?  If so, would you mind emailing 

> me

> (offlist) a picture of the emissions sticker on their cross 

> member/radiator

> support?  Part number should be 1265842926 49/4.

>

> thx,

> Markus

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> Message: 6

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:57:08 -0400 (EDT)

> From: Bucks2 at aol.com

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>

> Thanks Steve, I didn't know that page still existed.

>

> Ken

>

>

> In a message dated 9/8/2011 9:15:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>

> Hi, Ken.  Yes indeed - the Vegas Meet was great, with special thanks to 

> the

> Ramays and  the Cavazos. Photos are still viewable here, including a nice

> write up by Jim  Baubel. Several photos of you and your beautiful white 

> 1991

> 560SEC.

>

> <http://web.mac.com/dakota/Trips/Las_Vegas.html>

>

> Steve  Nervig

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> Message: 7

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:18:51 -0700

> From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID:

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> Ken,

>

>   I am in Seattle area tonight and early tomorrow. Do you have time for

> a cup of coffee in the mid morning to early afternoon

>

> In the Tacoma area? 503 789 4012   Warehouse in Sumner, WA.

>

>

>

> B.C.

>

>

>

>

>

> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com

> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Bucks2 at aol.com

> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:57 PM

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

>

>

>

> Thanks Steve, I didn't know that page still existed.

>

>

>

> Ken

>

>

>

> In a message dated 9/8/2011 9:15:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>

> Hi, Ken. Yes indeed - the Vegas Meet was great, with special

> thanks to the Ramays and the Cavazos. Photos are still viewable here,

> including a nice write up by Jim Baubel. Several photos of you and your

> beautiful white 1991 560SEC.

>

> <http://web.mac.com/dakota/Trips/Las_Vegas.html>

>

> Steve Nervig

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> Message: 8

> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 04:57:12 +0000 (UTC)

> From: stephenw2 at comcast.net

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group

> To: 190girl <190girl at earthlink.net>, Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID:

> <40017531.695052.1315544232121.JavaMail.root at sz0171a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

>

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>

> I am a recent owner of a 1990 SEC in great condition.? The last 6 months 

> getting the few bugs out, etc.? I am game.

>

> Stephen

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "190girl" <190girl at earthlink.net>

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:08:04 PM

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Subject: ?The Old 560SEC.COM Group

>

>

> Dear SEC Coupes & Old School Members (Mostly Men but you Realize Who I Am 

> in Your Midst):

> ?

> Guys.........drop the poison as I have always decreed.? Our passion 

> regarding the Classic Bruno Sacco Classic MBz Chassis Car Models years is 

> SUPREME.? We retain the ownership, drive train mechanics, marque madness, 

> so lets' lay behind any harsh criticism to those who further our Guardian 

> Angel dreams in any manner be it new website, meets, etc etc, Collect 

> ourselves and gather our strength what's left to shine and rock the world 

> of what is doable and affordable and leave our Legacy to a world of new 

> followers with our collections and knowledge to light a world of the 

> future on fire with our?strong attachment to all manner of W126, 124, 

> 107's.?

> If we all could turn back the back the clock of time to ONLY know what a 

> 1950's Gullwing was worth today in ANY condition we'd all be "rich" but 

> "rich" is a state of mind.? Each one of us? is RICH is owning a SEC in 

> many forms well cared for?to leave our imprint into the future generation 

> of gear heads.? ?We might be getting old, but those youngsters have 

> passion and thirst, and we Old Schoolers can serve the future pipeline.?

> I was Collector of 2011 featured in MBCA National Magazine in Jan Feb this 

> year.....ageless, mega Passion, OEM are my passions .? They selected me to 

> tell a story to younger collectors out there...........Don't Abandon Older 

> Cars.? They Bring JOY and so shall you.

> I have been quiet on the List last 6 months but I am here for you.? I'd 

> love? a 2012 meet and would host it...............but to share costs, I 

> need TEN cars (Couiples, Singles, etc)?

> Anybody game??

> ?

> Cheers,

> ?

> Legs

> Star Cruiser

> ?

> ?

> ?

> ?

> ?

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> Message: 9

> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 02:02:34 -0400

> From: Jay Hirsch <j.hirsch at mac.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <BD1F9023-E6AA-4CBE-8B65-414CBF6FA8AF at mac.com>

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>

> Depends when in 2012

>

> Jay H

>

>

> On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:57 AM, stephenw2 at comcast.net wrote:

>

>> I am a recent owner of a 1990 SEC in great condition.  The last 6 months 

>> getting the few bugs out, etc.  I am game.

>>

>> Stephen

>>

>> From: "190girl" <190girl at earthlink.net>

>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:08:04 PM

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group

>>

>> Dear SEC Coupes & Old School Members (Mostly Men but you Realize Who I Am 

>> in Your Midst):

>>

>> Guys.........drop the poison as I have always decreed.  Our passion 

>> regarding the Classic Bruno Sacco Classic MBz Chassis Car Models years is 

>> SUPREME.  We retain the ownership, drive train mechanics, marque madness, 

>> so lets' lay behind any harsh criticism to those who further our Guardian 

>> Angel dreams in any manner be it new website, meets, etc etc, Collect 

>> ourselves and gather our strength what's left to shine and rock the world 

>> of what is doable and affordable and leave our Legacy to a world of new 

>> followers with our collections and knowledge to light a world of the 

>> future on fire with our strong attachment to all manner of W126, 124, 

>> 107's.

>> If we all could turn back the back the clock of time to ONLY know what a 

>> 1950's Gullwing was worth today in ANY condition we'd all be "rich" but 

>> "rich" is a state of mind.  Each one of us  is RICH is owning a SEC in 

>> many forms well cared for to leave our imprint into the future generation 

>> of gear heads.   We might be getting old, but those youngsters have 

>> passion and thirst, and we Old Schoolers can serve the future pipeline.

>> I was Collector of 2011 featured in MBCA National Magazine in Jan Feb 

>> this year.....ageless, mega Passion, OEM are my passions .  They selected 

>> me to tell a story to younger collectors out there...........Don't 

>> Abandon Older Cars.  They Bring JOY and so shall you.

>> I have been quiet on the List last 6 months but I am here for you.  I'd 

>> love  a 2012 meet and would host it...............but to share costs, I 

>> need TEN cars (Couiples, Singles, etc)

>> Anybody game?

>>

>> Cheers,

>>

>> Legs

>> Star Cruiser

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>> The MB Coupes Website!

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> Message: 10

> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 20:15:28 +0800

> From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Front Seat Removal

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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>

> Hi Folks

> I have done some research and it looks like I am not the only one to have 

> a

> problem trying to remove the front seat bolt plastic covers without 

> breaking

> them,due to the fact that the have put two slots in the sides which catch 

> on

> the seat rail and also cause a weakness in the clip,the fact that they put 

> a

> rear clip in place why would you need to add two locking slots?.

>

> I have come to the conclusion that while MBZ engineers may be 

> brilliant,the

> design side of things may be less than well thought out when it comes to

> assembly and disassembly.Take  instrument illumination for example ,if a

> globe blows it should be relatively easy to change in a car,you should not

> have to rip out the the dash.

>

> Does anyone know if I can buy new clips without going to an MBZ dealer?

>

>

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>                                                                      Kind

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