[W126 Coupe] Remembering The Part

[Viking Unlimited LTD]

Remembering the Old Days Regards to the Old goop & The Fun We Had.

Atten: <><> The old Members that's made it happen

.You can always rely on Steve Narvig to keep every thing in Order<><> 
Without Steve we may not have "Any" of these great Pictures of all the trips 
planed through the MBCoupes sight  <> For several years we were all very 
active to make this sight the very best sight. We sure enjoyed the pleasures 
of owing a Mercedes coupe.

There was a lot of trips Planed & every one really enjoyed making plans in 
advance making sure we had our two way radios to help enjoy the fast pace 
(Speed) we laid down.<><> Think about the countless enthuses spending years 
to finish a 55 Chevy. & only to figure out that car will stay in the Garage 
for years<> maybe seeing daylight once a year to go to a car show. Hummm 
<><> Not this goop we use to make it happen. Making big planes Two or three 
timed a year we wanted to put down some miles. <><> Every one always got 
alone & we looked forward in helping each other making our Cars Perfect.

Anyway I still have the White 88 SEC with almost 70,000.<> That made it to 
the Las Vega & Kansas City Shows,  Its still Trouble Free in show Room 
Condition <> One of my Best Memories was Leaving Las Vegas after the Great 
Get-together we all worked on <><> Thanks to Mike Ramay & The Cavazos in 
keeping every one on the right page,<><>  (What A great time we had)  <> 
After the event Barry & Pattie Corno Judy and myself left Las Vegas @ 9:30 
AM and arrived in Portland ,OR @ 12:00 Midnight . Think about it That is 
over 1000 Miles  In 14 1/2 hours included Gas & food stops we laid down some 
speed and the SEC loved every minute of it." Averaging" speeds "Over 105 
going from Vega across the desert. Would you do that with your 55 Chevy.  I 
have had restored Corvettes that sat in the Garage for years putting 200 
Miles on the car in five years.  Whets it all about anyway.

I have been Very Busy Building a New house and the cars have been Stored I 
look forward in putting some Good times together again.

Steve & Gerry  <><><> Have some of the right ideas " Maybe what we have can 
still be as great as it has was in the Past.

Thanks to all the old Timers.  We Had Some Fun

Gary Dempsey

Portland Oregon

88 SEC     White/Black
84 SEC Euro AMG  Maroon/ Camel


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>   1. Re: Old folks (Ronny 560sec)

>   2. Re: Seat Lock Problem (Dick Spellman)

>   3. Re: Old folks (Barry Corno)

>   4. Ken, thanks for the photos of Las Vegas!!

>      (johnfolger at earthlink.net)

>   5. Any 1989's on the list? (Markus Meyer)

>   6. Re: Old folks (Bucks2 at aol.com)

>   7. Re: Old folks (Barry Corno)

>   8. Re: Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group (stephenw2 at comcast.net)

>   9. Re: Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group (Jay Hirsch)

>  10. Re: Front Seat Removal (L&D gardner)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:40:30 -0700

> From: "Ronny 560sec" <ronny.geenen at verizon.net>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Good to see all your pictures.

>

> Ronny

>

> From: Steve Nervig

> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 9:56 PM

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

>

> Hi, Ken. Yes indeed - the Vegas Meet was great, with special thanks to the 

> Ramays and the Cavazos. Photos are still viewable here, including a nice 

> write up by Jim Baubel. Several photos of you and your beautiful white 

> 1991 560SEC.

>

> <http://web.mac.com/dakota/Trips/Las_Vegas.html>

>

> Steve Nervig

> 1992 300CE Sportline

>

>

> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Bucks2 at aol.com wrote:

>

>

>  I too have moved on to an S class and no longer have and SEC, but I lurk 

> occasionally. I still wear my Las Vegas / Chicago get together polo shirt. 

> Good memories every time I drive by the Bahama Breeze restaurant when I'm 

> in Vegas, wishing I had a picture of 21 SEC's parked in the lot. Thanks 

> again Mike Ramay for a great get together.

>

>  Ken Buck

>

>

>  In a message dated 9/7/2011 3:28:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>    Don't have my SEC, but have a 300CE. Still like to keep up on what's 

> going on with the gang.

>    Jay

>

>

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> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 12:38:01 -0400

> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock Problem

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Dan,

>

> They slide forward and then lift up at the front and continue pulling

> forward to release the tab at rear.

>

> The front most side edges slide under a metal lip and the back end of

> the cover has a plastic tongue.

>

> You need to find a way to gently tap the plastic cover so it slides

> forward.  Only needs to move perhaps 3/8 inch (8mm) or so to free it up.

>

> -\Dick

>

> On 9/7/2011 11:25 PM, L&D gardner wrote:

>> Hi Folks

>>

>> Thanks for the advise,I found the front plastic bolt covers very

>> difficult to remove,I slid flat bladed tools underneath but they seem

>> to be locked onto something unfortunate despite being very gentle I

>> cracked one.There must be a technique for removal,I have checked the

>> CD but cannot find any reference..If anyone has information on how to

>> remove these without breakage I would appreciate it.

>>

>>

>>                                                          Kind Regards

>> Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>>

>> From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

>> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> Message-ID: <E37E38F3955D4173938D20801EF17FE9 at wizzy>

>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>>

>> Hi Folks

>> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend

>> asked for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he

>> has hip joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about

>> to get in the passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing

>> down into the seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame

>> held together is a miracle!!

>> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect

>> the vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have

>> removed the rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to

>> remove the floor bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the

>> lock components and effect repair I would appreciate it.

>>

>>

>>                             Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC

>> Euro (220kw)

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>> Message: 11

>> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:06:47 -0400

>> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> Message-ID:

>> <CADkW9YgSDB6XF1wrF9-_Yq9p0udQ1jDQ4egQwNY3zi_HRJLh6A at mail.gmail.com>

>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

>>

>> Dan,

>>

>> Below is from waning memory.  Please check the cd manual for specifics.

>>

>> Slide the seat rearward and remove the two trim caps and two 13mm floor

>> bolts from the front cabin.

>> Slide the seat forward and remove the two 13mm bolts from the rear cabin

>> floor.

>> Remove the seat belt rail trim cover and bolt in rear cabin from the

>> side of

>> the transmission.   Rock the seat upward and disconnect the electrical

>> and

>> vacuum lines.

>> Now remove the seat to a bench and inspect for any frame damage.

>> Installation is the reverse process.

>>

>> The vacuum lead manages the seat back lock.  The electric harnesses

>> manage

>> seat belt latch indicator (2-wire?), seat movement (6,8 or 10 pin block?)

>> and electric heat (should be a relay box and harness under seat) if

>> equipped.

>>

>> The motors internal to the seat for rail front to back movement and seat

>> back elevation are run on thick black cables.  These can become loose

>> from

>> the motors leaving no action while the motors turn and can be repaired

>> on a

>> bench.

>>

>> Good luck,

>>

>> Dick

>>

>>

>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM, L&D gardner <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au> wrote:

>>

>>>   Hi Folks

>>> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend

>>> asked

>>> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has hip

>>> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get

>>> in the

>>> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

>>> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

>>> miracle!!

>>> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect the

>>> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have

>>> removed the

>>> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the floor

>>> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components and

>>> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>>>

>>>

>>> Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>>>

>>> The MB Coupes Website!

>>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

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>> Message: 12

>> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 07:27:47 -0700

>> From: Michael Ramay <mike.ramay at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> Message-ID:

>> <CABmf+BG2Q9n0qoY0dGwFmu6G7uJ2Z8J_HDTdHTDh8HvBood6aA at mail.gmail.com>

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>>

>> Prior to removing the seat from the car, check the lock itself in the

>> seat

>> back - it's easier that moving that heavy, heavy seat. Move the seat

>> forward

>> a bit, lean the seat back forward and take out the two chrome philip head

>> screws on the bottom of the the plastic panel that is the back of the

>> seat.

>> With that panel off, you can see the seat lock and the vacuum line that

>> locks the seat. It's now easy to test the vacuum line with a Mity-Vac

>> to see

>> if it's still connected. It took longer to type this than it should

>> take to

>> do this!!

>> Mike

>>

>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Dick Spellman

>> <dick.spellman at gmail.com>wrote:

>>

>>> Dan,

>>>

>>> Below is from waning memory.  Please check the cd manual for specifics.

>>>

>>> Slide the seat rearward and remove the two trim caps and two 13mm floor

>>> bolts from the front cabin.

>>> Slide the seat forward and remove the two 13mm bolts from the rear cabin

>>> floor.

>>> Remove the seat belt rail trim cover and bolt in rear cabin from the

>>> side

>>> of the transmission.   Rock the seat upward and disconnect the

>>> electrical

>>> and vacuum lines.

>>> Now remove the seat to a bench and inspect for any frame damage.

>>> Installation is the reverse process.

>>>

>>> The vacuum lead manages the seat back lock.  The electric harnesses

>>> manage

>>> seat belt latch indicator (2-wire?), seat movement (6,8 or 10 pin

>>> block?)

>>> and electric heat (should be a relay box and harness under seat) if

>>> equipped.

>>>

>>> The motors internal to the seat for rail front to back movement and seat

>>> back elevation are run on thick black cables.  These can become loose

>>> from

>>> the motors leaving no action while the motors turn and can be

>>> repaired on a

>>> bench.

>>>

>>> Good luck,

>>>

>>> Dick

>>>

>>>

>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM, L&D gardner <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au> wrote:

>>>

>>>>   Hi Folks

>>>> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend

>>>> asked

>>>> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has

>>>> hip

>>>> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get

>>>> in the

>>>> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

>>>> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

>>>> miracle!!

>>>> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect

>>>> the

>>>> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have

>>>> removed the

>>>> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the

>>>> floor

>>>> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components

>>>> and

>>>> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>>>>

>

>

>

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> Message: 3

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 09:46:39 -0700

> From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> The fun day was the SPEED DRAFT  check it out.

>

>

>

> B.C.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com

> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Ronny 560sec

> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:41 PM

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

>

>

>

> Good to see all your pictures.

>

>

>

> Ronny

>

>

>

> From: Steve Nervig <mailto:dakota at mac.com>

>

> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 9:56 PM

>

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

>

>

>

> Hi, Ken. Yes indeed - the Vegas Meet was great, with special thanks to

> the Ramays and the Cavazos. Photos are still viewable here, including a

> nice write up by Jim Baubel. Several photos of you and your beautiful

> white 1991 560SEC.

>

>

>

> <http://web.mac.com/dakota/Trips/Las_Vegas.html>

>

>

>

> Steve Nervig

>

> 1992 300CE Sportline

>

>

>

>

>

> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Bucks2 at aol.com wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> I too have moved on to an S class and no longer have and SEC, but I lurk

> occasionally. I still wear my Las Vegas / Chicago get together polo

> shirt. Good memories every time I drive by the Bahama Breeze restaurant

> when I'm in Vegas, wishing I had a picture of 21 SEC's parked in the

> lot. Thanks again Mike Ramay for a great get together.

>

>

>

> Ken Buck

>

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 9/7/2011 3:28:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>

> Don't have my SEC, but have a 300CE. Still like to keep up on

> what's going on with the gang.

> Jay

>

>

>

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> Message: 4

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 13:00:13 -0400

> From: <johnfolger at earthlink.net>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Ken, thanks for the photos of Las Vegas!!

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> I have only been lurking since my beautiful 88 SEC got t-boned by a pickup

> truck within hours of getting it back from the performance shop. I guess 

> I'm

> still in mourning! I am still looking for her replacement. I continue to

> read every day and have joined the NEW list also.

> Many thanks to all that make this a great read during a busy day!!!

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>

>

> John Folger

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>   1. Re: [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes attached to the

>      vents? (Dick Spellman)

>   2. Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group (190girl)

>   3. Re: [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes attached to the

>      vents? (Dick Spellman)

>   4. Re: Old folks (Bucks2 at aol.com)

>   5. Re: Seat Lock Problem (L&D gardner)

>   6. Re: Old folks (Steve Nervig)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:36:04 -0400

> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes

> attached to the vents?

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> Hi Yousef,

>

> That's the ETR valve for the AC.  It's perfectly normal to see

> condensate on that metal housing once the foam cover has been removed.

>

> Place a piece of tight cell foam over it when dry and place a dab of

> silicone adhesive on its face to hold the foam in place.  Try and

> surround the whole valve as was originally done with the apparently

> missing piece of MB foam.

>

> The foam will act as an insulator and you will no longer see condensate

> dripping from the valve.

>

> -\Dick

>

> On 9/7/2011 6:28 PM, Yousef wrote:

>> Hey All

>>

>> Ive noticed that there is a lont of water condensed on the outside on of

> the tube connected to the ac vent (driver side).. Is that normal..

>>

>> Also i have very limited knowledge when it comes AC.. CAn you guys tell 

>> me

> what this part is called and what does it do (golden thing )

>>

>> Cbeeg

>>

>>

>>

>> PS its really hot&  humid where i live (UAE)

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

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> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:08:04 -0400

> From: "190girl" <190girl at earthlink.net>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Dear SEC Coupes & Old School Members (Mostly Men but you Realize Who I Am 

> in

> Your Midst):

>

> Guys.........drop the poison as I have always decreed.  Our passion

> regarding the Classic Bruno Sacco Classic MBz Chassis Car Models years is

> SUPREME.  We retain the ownership, drive train mechanics, marque madness, 

> so

> lets' lay behind any harsh criticism to those who further our Guardian 

> Angel

> dreams in any manner be it new website, meets, etc etc, Collect ourselves

> and gather our strength what's left to shine and rock the world of what is

> doable and affordable and leave our Legacy to a world of new followers 

> with

> our collections and knowledge to light a world of the future on fire with

> our strong attachment to all manner of W126, 124, 107's.

> If we all could turn back the back the clock of time to ONLY know what a

> 1950's Gullwing was worth today in ANY condition we'd all be "rich" but

> "rich" is a state of mind.  Each one of us  is RICH is owning a SEC in 

> many

> forms well cared for to leave our imprint into the future generation of 

> gear

> heads.   We might be getting old, but those youngsters have passion and

> thirst, and we Old Schoolers can serve the future pipeline.

> I was Collector of 2011 featured in MBCA National Magazine in Jan Feb this

> year.....ageless, mega Passion, OEM are my passions .  They selected me to

> tell a story to younger collectors out there...........Don't Abandon Older

> Cars.  They Bring JOY and so shall you.

> I have been quiet on the List last 6 months but I am here for you.  I'd 

> love

> a 2012 meet and would host it...............but to share costs, I need TEN

> cars (Couiples, Singles, etc)

> Anybody game?

>

> Cheers,

>

> Legs

> Star Cruiser

>

>

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> Message: 3

> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:59:38 -0400

> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes

> attached to the vents?

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> Yousef,

>

> The metal fittings on the hose can be wrapped or encased in foam tube as

> well.  From the pictures, it appears your hose(s) to the ETR (Evaporator

> Temperature Regulator) Valve were replaced on your MB at some point.

> That stain on the metal casing face is where MB applied the adhesive for

> the foam block that covered the valve.  The foam is structurally firm

> and perhaps 1/4 inch (6mm) in thickness.  Anything that will prevent the

> cabin air from contacting the metal should prevent any future condensate.

>

> -\Dick

>

>

> On 9/7/2011 6:28 PM, Yousef wrote:

>> Hey All

>>

>> Ive noticed that there is a lont of water condensed on the outside on of

> the tube connected to the ac vent (driver side).. Is that normal..

>>

>> Also i have very limited knowledge when it comes AC.. CAn you guys tell 

>> me

> what this part is called and what does it do (golden thing )

>>

>> Cbeeg

>>

>>

>>

>> PS its really hot&  humid where i live (UAE)

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>

>>

>> The MB Coupes Website!

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>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>

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> Message: 4

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 20:38:03 -0400 (EDT)

> From: Bucks2 at aol.com

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

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> I too have moved on to an S class and no longer have and SEC, but I lurk

> occasionally. I still wear my Las Vegas / Chicago get together polo shirt.

> Good  memories every time I drive by the Bahama Breeze restaurant when I'm

> in

> Vegas, wishing I had a picture of 21 SEC's parked in the lot. Thanks again

> Mike Ramay for a great get together.

>

> Ken Buck

>

>

>

> In a message dated 9/7/2011 3:28:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>

> Don't  have my SEC, but have a 300CE. Still like to keep up on what's 

> going

> on with  the gang.

> Jay

>

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> Message: 5

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:25:42 +0800

> From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock Problem

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <D9F2D69B3998433081D3D6B11DCAA578 at wizzy>

> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";

> reply-type=original

>

> Hi Folks

>

> Thanks for the advise,I found the front plastic bolt covers very difficult

> to remove,I slid flat bladed tools underneath but they seem to be locked

> onto something unfortunate despite being very gentle I cracked one.There

> must be a technique for removal,I have checked the CD but cannot find any

> reference..If anyone has information on how to remove these without 

> breakage

>

> I would appreciate it.

>

>

>

>                                                          Kind Regards Dan

> Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>

> From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <E37E38F3955D4173938D20801EF17FE9 at wizzy>

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>

> Hi Folks

> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend asked

> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has hip

> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get in 

> the

> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

> miracle!!

> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect the

> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have removed 

> the

> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the floor

> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components and

> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>

>

>

>                             Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro

> (220kw)

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> Message: 11

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:06:47 -0400

> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID:

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>

> Dan,

>

> Below is from waning memory.  Please check the cd manual for specifics.

>

> Slide the seat rearward and remove the two trim caps and two 13mm floor

> bolts from the front cabin.

> Slide the seat forward and remove the two 13mm bolts from the rear cabin

> floor.

> Remove the seat belt rail trim cover and bolt in rear cabin from the side 

> of

> the transmission.   Rock the seat upward and disconnect the electrical and

> vacuum lines.

> Now remove the seat to a bench and inspect for any frame damage.

> Installation is the reverse process.

>

> The vacuum lead manages the seat back lock.  The electric harnesses manage

> seat belt latch indicator (2-wire?), seat movement (6,8 or 10 pin block?)

> and electric heat (should be a relay box and harness under seat) if

> equipped.

>

> The motors internal to the seat for rail front to back movement and seat

> back elevation are run on thick black cables.  These can become loose from

> the motors leaving no action while the motors turn and can be repaired on 

> a

> bench.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Dick

>

>

> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM, L&D gardner <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au> wrote:

>

>>   Hi Folks

>> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend 

>> asked

>> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has hip

>> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get in

>> the

>> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

>> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

>> miracle!!

>> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect the

>> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have removed

>> the

>> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the floor

>> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components and

>> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>>

>>

>> Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>>

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

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> Message: 12

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 07:27:47 -0700

> From: Michael Ramay <mike.ramay at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID:

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>

> Prior to removing the seat from the car, check the lock itself in the seat

> back - it's easier that moving that heavy, heavy seat. Move the seat 

> forward

> a bit, lean the seat back forward and take out the two chrome philip head

> screws on the bottom of the the plastic panel that is the back of the 

> seat.

> With that panel off, you can see the seat lock and the vacuum line that

> locks the seat. It's now easy to test the vacuum line with a Mity-Vac to 

> see

> if it's still connected. It took longer to type this than it should take 

> to

> do this!!

> Mike

>

> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Dick Spellman

> <dick.spellman at gmail.com>wrote:

>

>> Dan,

>>

>> Below is from waning memory.  Please check the cd manual for specifics.

>>

>> Slide the seat rearward and remove the two trim caps and two 13mm floor

>> bolts from the front cabin.

>> Slide the seat forward and remove the two 13mm bolts from the rear cabin

>> floor.

>> Remove the seat belt rail trim cover and bolt in rear cabin from the side

>> of the transmission.   Rock the seat upward and disconnect the electrical

>> and vacuum lines.

>> Now remove the seat to a bench and inspect for any frame damage.

>> Installation is the reverse process.

>>

>> The vacuum lead manages the seat back lock.  The electric harnesses 

>> manage

>> seat belt latch indicator (2-wire?), seat movement (6,8 or 10 pin block?)

>> and electric heat (should be a relay box and harness under seat) if

>> equipped.

>>

>> The motors internal to the seat for rail front to back movement and seat

>> back elevation are run on thick black cables.  These can become loose 

>> from

>> the motors leaving no action while the motors turn and can be repaired on

>> a

>> bench.

>>

>> Good luck,

>>

>> Dick

>>

>>

>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM, L&D gardner <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au> wrote:

>>

>>>   Hi Folks

>>> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend

>>> asked

>>> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has hip

>>> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get in

>>> the

>>> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

>>> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

>>> miracle!!

>>> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect the

>>> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have removed

>>> the

>>> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the floor

>>> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components and

>>> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>>>

>>>

>>> Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>>>

>>>

>>>

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> Message: 6

> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:56:11 -0700

> From: Steve Nervig <dakota at mac.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Hi, Ken. Yes indeed - the Vegas Meet was great, with special thanks to the

> Ramays and the Cavazos. Photos are still viewable here, including a nice

> write up by Jim Baubel. Several photos of you and your beautiful white 

> 1991

> 560SEC.

>

> <http://web.mac.com/dakota/Trips/Las_Vegas.html>

>

> Steve Nervig

> 1992 300CE Sportline

>

>

> On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Bucks2 at aol.com wrote:

>

>> I too have moved on to an S class and no longer have and SEC, but I lurk

> occasionally. I still wear my Las Vegas / Chicago get together polo shirt.

> Good memories every time I drive by the Bahama Breeze restaurant when I'm 

> in

> Vegas, wishing I had a picture of 21 SEC's parked in the lot. Thanks again

> Mike Ramay for a great get together.

>>

>> Ken Buck

>>

>>

>> In a message dated 9/7/2011 3:28:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>> Don't have my SEC, but have a 300CE. Still like to keep up on what's 

>> going

> on with the gang.

>> Jay

>>

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> Message: 5

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 13:56:05 -0400

> From: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at gmail.com>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Any 1989's on the list?

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Anyone have a 1989 126 (V8) on the list?  If so, would you mind emailing 

> me

> (offlist) a picture of the emissions sticker on their cross 

> member/radiator

> support?  Part number should be 1265842926 49/4.

>

> thx,

> Markus

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> Message: 6

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:57:08 -0400 (EDT)

> From: Bucks2 at aol.com

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

> Message-ID: <e4ec.4bdb495.3b9a7814 at aol.com>

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>

> Thanks Steve, I didn't know that page still existed.

>

> Ken

>

>

> In a message dated 9/8/2011 9:15:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>

> Hi, Ken.  Yes indeed - the Vegas Meet was great, with special thanks to 

> the

> Ramays and  the Cavazos. Photos are still viewable here, including a nice

> write up by Jim  Baubel. Several photos of you and your beautiful white 

> 1991

> 560SEC.

>

> <http://web.mac.com/dakota/Trips/Las_Vegas.html>

>

> Steve  Nervig

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> Message: 7

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:18:51 -0700

> From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID:

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> Ken,

>

>   I am in Seattle area tonight and early tomorrow. Do you have time for

> a cup of coffee in the mid morning to early afternoon

>

> In the Tacoma area? 503 789 4012   Warehouse in Sumner, WA.

>

>

>

> B.C.

>

>

>

>

>

> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com

> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Bucks2 at aol.com

> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:57 PM

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks

>

>

>

> Thanks Steve, I didn't know that page still existed.

>

>

>

> Ken

>

>

>

> In a message dated 9/8/2011 9:15:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

>

> Hi, Ken. Yes indeed - the Vegas Meet was great, with special

> thanks to the Ramays and the Cavazos. Photos are still viewable here,

> including a nice write up by Jim Baubel. Several photos of you and your

> beautiful white 1991 560SEC.

>

> <http://web.mac.com/dakota/Trips/Las_Vegas.html>

>

> Steve Nervig

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> Message: 8

> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 04:57:12 +0000 (UTC)

> From: stephenw2 at comcast.net

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group

> To: 190girl <190girl at earthlink.net>, Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID:

> <40017531.695052.1315544232121.JavaMail.root at sz0171a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

>

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>

> I am a recent owner of a 1990 SEC in great condition.? The last 6 months 

> getting the few bugs out, etc.? I am game.

>

> Stephen

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "190girl" <190girl at earthlink.net>

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:08:04 PM

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Subject: ?The Old 560SEC.COM Group

>

>

> Dear SEC Coupes & Old School Members (Mostly Men but you Realize Who I Am 

> in Your Midst):

> ?

> Guys.........drop the poison as I have always decreed.? Our passion 

> regarding the Classic Bruno Sacco Classic MBz Chassis Car Models years is 

> SUPREME.? We retain the ownership, drive train mechanics, marque madness, 

> so lets' lay behind any harsh criticism to those who further our Guardian 

> Angel dreams in any manner be it new website, meets, etc etc, Collect 

> ourselves and gather our strength what's left to shine and rock the world 

> of what is doable and affordable and leave our Legacy to a world of new 

> followers with our collections and knowledge to light a world of the 

> future on fire with our?strong attachment to all manner of W126, 124, 

> 107's.?

> If we all could turn back the back the clock of time to ONLY know what a 

> 1950's Gullwing was worth today in ANY condition we'd all be "rich" but 

> "rich" is a state of mind.? Each one of us? is RICH is owning a SEC in 

> many forms well cared for?to leave our imprint into the future generation 

> of gear heads.? ?We might be getting old, but those youngsters have 

> passion and thirst, and we Old Schoolers can serve the future pipeline.?

> I was Collector of 2011 featured in MBCA National Magazine in Jan Feb this 

> year.....ageless, mega Passion, OEM are my passions .? They selected me to 

> tell a story to younger collectors out there...........Don't Abandon Older 

> Cars.? They Bring JOY and so shall you.

> I have been quiet on the List last 6 months but I am here for you.? I'd 

> love? a 2012 meet and would host it...............but to share costs, I 

> need TEN cars (Couiples, Singles, etc)?

> Anybody game??

> ?

> Cheers,

> ?

> Legs

> Star Cruiser

> ?

> ?

> ?

> ?

> ?

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> Message: 9

> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 02:02:34 -0400

> From: Jay Hirsch <j.hirsch at mac.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <BD1F9023-E6AA-4CBE-8B65-414CBF6FA8AF at mac.com>

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>

> Depends when in 2012

>

> Jay H

>

>

> On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:57 AM, stephenw2 at comcast.net wrote:

>

>> I am a recent owner of a 1990 SEC in great condition.  The last 6 months 

>> getting the few bugs out, etc.  I am game.

>>

>> Stephen

>>

>> From: "190girl" <190girl at earthlink.net>

>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:08:04 PM

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group

>>

>> Dear SEC Coupes & Old School Members (Mostly Men but you Realize Who I Am 

>> in Your Midst):

>>

>> Guys.........drop the poison as I have always decreed.  Our passion 

>> regarding the Classic Bruno Sacco Classic MBz Chassis Car Models years is 

>> SUPREME.  We retain the ownership, drive train mechanics, marque madness, 

>> so lets' lay behind any harsh criticism to those who further our Guardian 

>> Angel dreams in any manner be it new website, meets, etc etc, Collect 

>> ourselves and gather our strength what's left to shine and rock the world 

>> of what is doable and affordable and leave our Legacy to a world of new 

>> followers with our collections and knowledge to light a world of the 

>> future on fire with our strong attachment to all manner of W126, 124, 

>> 107's.

>> If we all could turn back the back the clock of time to ONLY know what a 

>> 1950's Gullwing was worth today in ANY condition we'd all be "rich" but 

>> "rich" is a state of mind.  Each one of us  is RICH is owning a SEC in 

>> many forms well cared for to leave our imprint into the future generation 

>> of gear heads.   We might be getting old, but those youngsters have 

>> passion and thirst, and we Old Schoolers can serve the future pipeline.

>> I was Collector of 2011 featured in MBCA National Magazine in Jan Feb 

>> this year.....ageless, mega Passion, OEM are my passions .  They selected 

>> me to tell a story to younger collectors out there...........Don't 

>> Abandon Older Cars.  They Bring JOY and so shall you.

>> I have been quiet on the List last 6 months but I am here for you.  I'd 

>> love  a 2012 meet and would host it...............but to share costs, I 

>> need TEN cars (Couiples, Singles, etc)

>> Anybody game?

>>

>> Cheers,

>>

>> Legs

>> Star Cruiser

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

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> Message: 10

> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 20:15:28 +0800

> From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Front Seat Removal

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <42889382DC9B43C7A63E9BB6CB9C96F8 at wizzy>

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>

> Hi Folks

> I have done some research and it looks like I am not the only one to have 

> a

> problem trying to remove the front seat bolt plastic covers without 

> breaking

> them,due to the fact that the have put two slots in the sides which catch 

> on

> the seat rail and also cause a weakness in the clip,the fact that they put 

> a

> rear clip in place why would you need to add two locking slots?.

>

> I have come to the conclusion that while MBZ engineers may be 

> brilliant,the

> design side of things may be less than well thought out when it comes to

> assembly and disassembly.Take  instrument illumination for example ,if a

> globe blows it should be relatively easy to change in a car,you should not

> have to rip out the the dash.

>

> Does anyone know if I can buy new clips without going to an MBZ dealer?

>

>

>

>                                                                      Kind

> Regards  Dan Gardner 1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>

>

>

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