[W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 87, Issue 8

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I have leaking headgasket it oil out of the rear any idea what kind of money ? Kevind

Mike Valeriano <trooper6 at cox.net> wrote:


>In regards to the clunking noise my problem was the hydraulic rams.  The ram wasn't leaking, but the lower ball joint was worn and moved in the socket.  I have a long thread on benzworld about it.  You can buy the ball joint separately for around $200.   The rams are getting cheaper so it makes more sense to buy a new ram for $400.  I replace mine and the clunk went away.

>

>Best regards,

>Mike

>

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>>   1. Re: low left rear end question (Jonathan Hodgman)

>>   2. Re: low left rear end question (toelsner at comcast.net)

>>   3. Re: low left rear end question (Dick Spellman)

>>   4. Re: low left rear end question (mavris2 at gmail.com)

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>> Message: 1

>> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:11:57 -0400

>> From: Jonathan Hodgman <jhodgman at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

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>> jono

>> On 8/5/2011 1:59 PM, toelsner at comcast.net wrote:

>>> 

>>> Markus

>>> 

>>> How do you know they were bad if they didn't leak? I just got off the 

>>> phone with Gary at buymbparts and ordered all the rubber parts since 

>>> at 230k miles, I know they should be replaced. He also called Jonathan 

>>> to talk about it. Do you have Jonathan's phone nbr?

>>> 

>>> Tom

>>> 

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>>> 

>>> *From: *"Markus Meyer" <markusfmeyer at gmail.com>

>>> *To: *"Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>> *Sent: *Friday, August 5, 2011 10:34:07 AM

>>> *Subject: *Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

>>> 

>>> Tom,

>>> I'll second what Axel said, with a hinge.  In my case, the struts did 

>>> go bad and didn't leak.  Why?  Because the accumulators I replaced 

>>> went bad and I didn't know it.  Should have listened to Jono and 

>>> bought genuine MB (and spent $$$).  Instead I bought aftermarket and 

>>> after a year when the ride became harsh again, assumed it wasn't them 

>>> and kept driving like that for a good bit till I finally figured it 

>>> out.  So yes, they can leak, but, if you drive around on a bad 

>>> suspension long enough like I did, they can go bad then too.

>>> New they are expensive.  After getting another opinion (I'd call Jono 

>>> and talk to him in person, he's knows these cars inside and out), I'd 

>>> look around for a good used set.  That's what I did - bought them from 

>>> a fellow member here with a totalled car.

>>> Best of luck,

>>> Markus

>>> 

>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Axel Wulff <axelwulff at hotmail.com 

>>> <mailto:axelwulff at hotmail.com>> wrote:

>>> 

>>>    Time for a second opinion......

>>> 

>>>    The hydraulic rams don't wear out.

>>> 

>>>    They may start to leak, but they don't wear like regular shocks.

>>> 

>>> 

>>>    Regards,

>>>    Axel J. Wulff

>>>    610-731-5453 <tel:610-731-5453> Cellular

>>>    610-572-4611 <tel:610-572-4611> Home

>>> 

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>>>    From: toelsner at comcast.net <mailto:toelsner at comcast.net>

>>>    To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>>    Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:48:34 -0700

>>> 

>>>    Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

>>> 

>>>    Thanks to all for their input. Well, I got a call from the

>>>    mechanic, a guy I trust. He even lets me buy the parts. The left

>>>    rear hydraulic shock needs to be replaced. He also said the right

>>>    one wasn't great either. So I need 2 struts, bushings, and

>>>    retainer. I do not want to go with non-hydraulics. I also need to

>>>    replace all the motor mounts. Anybody have any ideas for where to

>>>    get the parts? Also, about how many hours are we talking for all

>>>    of this? Thanks.

>>> 

>>>    Tom

>>> 

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>>>    *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:17 PM

>>>    *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>>>    *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

>>> 

>>>    +1 on that.. Had clunking on both w202 and 560SEC... in both cases

>>>    it was the rear plastic stabilizer ... Its easy to locate too if u

>>>    get a chance on the lift

>>> 

>>>    Sent from my iPad

>>> 

>>> 

>>>    On Aug 4, 2011, at 1:38 AM, Mister McGoo <eelploot at hotmail.com

>>>    <mailto:eelploot at hotmail.com>> wrote:

>>> 

>>>        Tom;

>>> 

>>>        I think Markus is likely right.  The culprit is likely the

>>>        Sway (Stabilizer) Bar Link that joins the rear sway bar to

>>>        trailing arm

>>> 

>>>        Part No 123 320 09 89)    When broken they will clunk when

>>>        bouncing the rear corner.  Easy to see (remove wheel -

>>>        directly behind the brake disc back plate), and easy to

>>>        replace. They cost less than $10.

>>> 

>>>        That would be the first place to look anyway.

>>> 

>>>        -Bellamy

>>> 

>>>        *

>>> 

>>>        *

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>>>        From: toelsner at comcast.net <mailto:toelsner at comcast.net>

>>>        To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>>        Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 19:24:09 -0700

>>>        Subject: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

>>> 

>>>        Today when walking up to my 560SEC from across the parking

>>>        lot, I noticed that the left rear looked lower than the right

>>>        rear. I looked at it more closely and then when I go home I

>>>        made a crude measurement to see how much lower. It looks to be

>>>        fairly substantial, on the order of 3/8", maybe more.

>>> 

>>>        I also noticed a "clunking" sound going over bumps that I had

>>>        actually thought was the cooler I keep in the trunk, but now I

>>>        think not. The ride does not seem hard, the symptom of the

>>>        accumulators going bad. I had actually replaced both of them

>>>        around 60k miles ago...the car is high mileage...I bought it

>>>        to drive and I do! Does anybody have any ideas as to what to

>>>        look at before I bring it in? Thanks

>>> 

>>>        Tom Oelsner

>>> 

>>>        90 560SEC

>>> 

>>>        223k miles

>>> 

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>> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:26:31 +0000

>> From: toelsner at comcast.net

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

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>> Hi Markus

>> I also suspect my accumulators are ok because I am not getting any of the symptoms of bad accumulators...no bouncing, no bone shaking when going over bumps such as railroad tracks. The clunk I think I was sometimes hearing was actually a cooler I had in the trunk.

>> Tom

>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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>> -----Original Message-----

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>> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:34:07 

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>> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:05:18 -0400

>> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

>> To: toelsner at comcast.net,    Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

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>> Hi Tom,

>> 

>> The gangsta lean is typically the rubber diff mount and/or the sub frame 

>> bushings.  I had renewed the springs on the rear of that 300se ( the 

>> shocks were good, no leaks) and still had the lean.  After Jonathan sent 

>> me the rubber mounts all was good.  I did the sub-frame bushings first 

>> and the diff mount second.  FYI, it's about 2- 3hours for the rubber 

>> mounts in labor total for a DIY'r so may be less time for a pro.  Never 

>> did figure out which one cured the lean you describe.

>> 

>> With renewed sub-frame bushings the car should ride a tad smoother and 

>> have no roll side to side.  Those sway bar links Markus described can 

>> cause the bar to make a clunking sound when worn.  To test just grab 

>> each one and wiggle side to side.  If they are nice n stiff (firm) they 

>> are good.  If they move freely, replace them.

>> 

>> -\Dick

>> 

>> On 8/5/2011 2:26 PM, toelsner at comcast.net wrote:

>>> Hi Markus

>>> I also suspect my accumulators are ok because I am not getting any of the symptoms of bad accumulators...no bouncing, no bone shaking when going over bumps such as railroad tracks. The clunk I think I was sometimes hearing was actually a cooler I had in the trunk.

>>>  Tom

>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>>> 

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>>> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:34:07

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>> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 21:56:11 -0400

>> From: "mavris2 at gmail.com" <mavris2 at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

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>> I found in most cases its the rear diff mount to be the lean issue.  

>> 

>> Jason 

>> Sent from my LG phone

>> 

>> Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com> wrote:

>> 

>>> Hi Tom,

>>> 

>>> The gangsta lean is typically the rubber diff mount and/or the sub frame 

>>> bushings.  I had renewed the springs on the rear of that 300se ( the 

>>> shocks were good, no leaks) and still had the lean.  After Jonathan sent 

>>> me the rubber mounts all was good.  I did the sub-frame bushings first 

>>> and the diff mount second.  FYI, it's about 2- 3hours for the rubber 

>>> mounts in labor total for a DIY'r so may be less time for a pro.  Never 

>>> did figure out which one cured the lean you describe.

>>> 

>>> With renewed sub-frame bushings the car should ride a tad smoother and 

>>> have no roll side to side.  Those sway bar links Markus described can 

>>> cause the bar to make a clunking sound when worn.  To test just grab 

>>> each one and wiggle side to side.  If they are nice n stiff (firm) they 

>>> are good.  If they move freely, replace them.

>>> 

>>> -\Dick

>>> 

>>> On 8/5/2011 2:26 PM, toelsner at comcast.net wrote:

>>>> Hi Markus

>>>> I also suspect my accumulators are ok because I am not getting any of the symptoms of bad accumulators...no bouncing, no bone shaking when going over bumps such as railroad tracks. The clunk I think I was sometimes hearing was actually a cooler I had in the trunk.

>>>>  Tom

>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>>>> 

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: Markus Meyer<markusfmeyer at gmail.com>

>>>> Sender: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com

>>>> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:34:07

>>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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