[W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 87, Issue 8

[Egill Gudmundsson]

I paid 15 dollars each and changed them myself. Very easy task.

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On 6.8.2011, at 17:12, kddinsmore at yahoo.com wrote:


> I have leaking headgasket it oil out of the rear any idea what kind of money ? Kevind

> 

> Mike Valeriano <trooper6 at cox.net> wrote:

> 

>> In regards to the clunking noise my problem was the hydraulic rams.  The ram wasn't leaking, but the lower ball joint was worn and moved in the socket.  I have a long thread on benzworld about it.  You can buy the ball joint separately for around $200.   The rams are getting cheaper so it makes more sense to buy a new ram for $400.  I replace mine and the clunk went away.

>> 

>> Best regards,

>> Mike

>> 

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>>>  1. Re: low left rear end question (Jonathan Hodgman)

>>>  2. Re: low left rear end question (toelsner at comcast.net)

>>>  3. Re: low left rear end question (Dick Spellman)

>>>  4. Re: low left rear end question (mavris2 at gmail.com)

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>>> Message: 1

>>> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:11:57 -0400

>>> From: Jonathan Hodgman <jhodgman at gmail.com>

>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

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>>> jono

>>> On 8/5/2011 1:59 PM, toelsner at comcast.net wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> Markus

>>>> 

>>>> How do you know they were bad if they didn't leak? I just got off the 

>>>> phone with Gary at buymbparts and ordered all the rubber parts since 

>>>> at 230k miles, I know they should be replaced. He also called Jonathan 

>>>> to talk about it. Do you have Jonathan's phone nbr?

>>>> 

>>>> Tom

>>>> 

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>>>> *From: *"Markus Meyer" <markusfmeyer at gmail.com>

>>>> *To: *"Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>>> *Sent: *Friday, August 5, 2011 10:34:07 AM

>>>> *Subject: *Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

>>>> 

>>>> Tom,

>>>> I'll second what Axel said, with a hinge.  In my case, the struts did 

>>>> go bad and didn't leak.  Why?  Because the accumulators I replaced 

>>>> went bad and I didn't know it.  Should have listened to Jono and 

>>>> bought genuine MB (and spent $$$).  Instead I bought aftermarket and 

>>>> after a year when the ride became harsh again, assumed it wasn't them 

>>>> and kept driving like that for a good bit till I finally figured it 

>>>> out.  So yes, they can leak, but, if you drive around on a bad 

>>>> suspension long enough like I did, they can go bad then too.

>>>> New they are expensive.  After getting another opinion (I'd call Jono 

>>>> and talk to him in person, he's knows these cars inside and out), I'd 

>>>> look around for a good used set.  That's what I did - bought them from 

>>>> a fellow member here with a totalled car.

>>>> Best of luck,

>>>> Markus

>>>> 

>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Axel Wulff <axelwulff at hotmail.com 

>>>> <mailto:axelwulff at hotmail.com>> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>>   Time for a second opinion......

>>>> 

>>>>   The hydraulic rams don't wear out.

>>>> 

>>>>   They may start to leak, but they don't wear like regular shocks.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>>   Regards,

>>>>   Axel J. Wulff

>>>>   610-731-5453 <tel:610-731-5453> Cellular

>>>>   610-572-4611 <tel:610-572-4611> Home

>>>> 

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>>>>   From: toelsner at comcast.net <mailto:toelsner at comcast.net>

>>>>   To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>>>   Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:48:34 -0700

>>>> 

>>>>   Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

>>>> 

>>>>   Thanks to all for their input. Well, I got a call from the

>>>>   mechanic, a guy I trust. He even lets me buy the parts. The left

>>>>   rear hydraulic shock needs to be replaced. He also said the right

>>>>   one wasn't great either. So I need 2 struts, bushings, and

>>>>   retainer. I do not want to go with non-hydraulics. I also need to

>>>>   replace all the motor mounts. Anybody have any ideas for where to

>>>>   get the parts? Also, about how many hours are we talking for all

>>>>   of this? Thanks.

>>>> 

>>>>   Tom

>>>> 

>>>>   *From:*mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com

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>>>>   *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:17 PM

>>>>   *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>>>>   *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

>>>> 

>>>>   +1 on that.. Had clunking on both w202 and 560SEC... in both cases

>>>>   it was the rear plastic stabilizer ... Its easy to locate too if u

>>>>   get a chance on the lift

>>>> 

>>>>   Sent from my iPad

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>>   On Aug 4, 2011, at 1:38 AM, Mister McGoo <eelploot at hotmail.com

>>>>   <mailto:eelploot at hotmail.com>> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>>       Tom;

>>>> 

>>>>       I think Markus is likely right.  The culprit is likely the

>>>>       Sway (Stabilizer) Bar Link that joins the rear sway bar to

>>>>       trailing arm

>>>> 

>>>>       Part No 123 320 09 89)    When broken they will clunk when

>>>>       bouncing the rear corner.  Easy to see (remove wheel -

>>>>       directly behind the brake disc back plate), and easy to

>>>>       replace. They cost less than $10.

>>>> 

>>>>       That would be the first place to look anyway.

>>>> 

>>>>       -Bellamy

>>>> 

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>>>> 

>>>>       From: toelsner at comcast.net <mailto:toelsner at comcast.net>

>>>>       To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>>>       Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 19:24:09 -0700

>>>>       Subject: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

>>>> 

>>>>       Today when walking up to my 560SEC from across the parking

>>>>       lot, I noticed that the left rear looked lower than the right

>>>>       rear. I looked at it more closely and then when I go home I

>>>>       made a crude measurement to see how much lower. It looks to be

>>>>       fairly substantial, on the order of 3/8", maybe more.

>>>> 

>>>>       I also noticed a "clunking" sound going over bumps that I had

>>>>       actually thought was the cooler I keep in the trunk, but now I

>>>>       think not. The ride does not seem hard, the symptom of the

>>>>       accumulators going bad. I had actually replaced both of them

>>>>       around 60k miles ago...the car is high mileage...I bought it

>>>>       to drive and I do! Does anybody have any ideas as to what to

>>>>       look at before I bring it in? Thanks

>>>> 

>>>>       Tom Oelsner

>>>> 

>>>>       90 560SEC

>>>> 

>>>>       223k miles

>>>> 

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>>> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:26:31 +0000

>>> From: toelsner at comcast.net

>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

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>>> Hi Markus

>>> I also suspect my accumulators are ok because I am not getting any of the symptoms of bad accumulators...no bouncing, no bone shaking when going over bumps such as railroad tracks. The clunk I think I was sometimes hearing was actually a cooler I had in the trunk.

>>> Tom

>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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>>> -----Original Message-----

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>>> Message: 3

>>> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:05:18 -0400

>>> From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

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>>> Hi Tom,

>>> 

>>> The gangsta lean is typically the rubber diff mount and/or the sub frame 

>>> bushings.  I had renewed the springs on the rear of that 300se ( the 

>>> shocks were good, no leaks) and still had the lean.  After Jonathan sent 

>>> me the rubber mounts all was good.  I did the sub-frame bushings first 

>>> and the diff mount second.  FYI, it's about 2- 3hours for the rubber 

>>> mounts in labor total for a DIY'r so may be less time for a pro.  Never 

>>> did figure out which one cured the lean you describe.

>>> 

>>> With renewed sub-frame bushings the car should ride a tad smoother and 

>>> have no roll side to side.  Those sway bar links Markus described can 

>>> cause the bar to make a clunking sound when worn.  To test just grab 

>>> each one and wiggle side to side.  If they are nice n stiff (firm) they 

>>> are good.  If they move freely, replace them.

>>> 

>>> -\Dick

>>> 

>>> On 8/5/2011 2:26 PM, toelsner at comcast.net wrote:

>>>> Hi Markus

>>>> I also suspect my accumulators are ok because I am not getting any of the symptoms of bad accumulators...no bouncing, no bone shaking when going over bumps such as railroad tracks. The clunk I think I was sometimes hearing was actually a cooler I had in the trunk.

>>>> Tom

>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>>>> 

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: Markus Meyer<markusfmeyer at gmail.com>

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>>>> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:34:07

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>>> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 21:56:11 -0400

>>> From: "mavris2 at gmail.com" <mavris2 at gmail.com>

>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

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>>> I found in most cases its the rear diff mount to be the lean issue.  

>>> 

>>> Jason 

>>> Sent from my LG phone

>>> 

>>> Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>>> Hi Tom,

>>>> 

>>>> The gangsta lean is typically the rubber diff mount and/or the sub frame 

>>>> bushings.  I had renewed the springs on the rear of that 300se ( the 

>>>> shocks were good, no leaks) and still had the lean.  After Jonathan sent 

>>>> me the rubber mounts all was good.  I did the sub-frame bushings first 

>>>> and the diff mount second.  FYI, it's about 2- 3hours for the rubber 

>>>> mounts in labor total for a DIY'r so may be less time for a pro.  Never 

>>>> did figure out which one cured the lean you describe.

>>>> 

>>>> With renewed sub-frame bushings the car should ride a tad smoother and 

>>>> have no roll side to side.  Those sway bar links Markus described can 

>>>> cause the bar to make a clunking sound when worn.  To test just grab 

>>>> each one and wiggle side to side.  If they are nice n stiff (firm) they 

>>>> are good.  If they move freely, replace them.

>>>> 

>>>> -\Dick

>>>> 

>>>> On 8/5/2011 2:26 PM, toelsner at comcast.net wrote:

>>>>> Hi Markus

>>>>> I also suspect my accumulators are ok because I am not getting any of the symptoms of bad accumulators...no bouncing, no bone shaking when going over bumps such as railroad tracks. The clunk I think I was sometimes hearing was actually a cooler I had in the trunk.

>>>>> Tom

>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>>>>> 

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>> From: Markus Meyer<markusfmeyer at gmail.com>

>>>>> Sender: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com

>>>>> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:34:07

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>>>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] low left rear end question

>>>>> 

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