[W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 36, Radiator / cooling issue

[Jay Hirsch]

stay out of traffic
100 out  of 100 is a  good batting average.
It is not  normal to live 100 degree heat...was in Houston and OKC  
three days ago
leave the car be.
keep cruisin and move to a  cooler place
On Jun 25, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Doug Gavin wrote:


> Hi folks,  I would like opinions please. On my '90 SEC my temp  

> gauge is hitting the 100 degree mark and a little above in this 100  

> degree F. heat in Houston TX. traffic. Once I get rolling it drops  

> back to  just a little more than the 80 degree mark. Everything  

> seems to be up to snuff but It has been recommended that the  

> radiator be replaced.

>

> 1. Do you agree?

> 2. if so, is there a good source for a replacement radiator among  

> this group?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Doug in Houston

>

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>   1. Re: brake question (Gary)

>   2. Re: brake question (samsisic at comcast.net)

>   3. need a new repair shop (Thomas Oelsner)

>   4. Re: need a new repair shop (Bruce Mendel)

>   5. Re: need a new repair shop (shinzbox at aol.com)

>   6. Re: need a new repair shop (Jim Ham)

>   7. Re: need a new repair shop (Thomas Oelsner)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT)

> From: Gary <garysalas at yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] brake question

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> thanks?

> ?

>

> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Mike R. <mramay at att.biz> wrote:

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> From: Mike R. <mramay at att.biz>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] brake question

> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 2:02 PM

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> You don't have to remove the calipers, only the brake pad. Push the  

> brake pads away from the rotor, pull the two steel pins, gently  

> remove the white sensor wires and then the flat metal spring  

> holding the pads in the calipers, then just slide the pads out.  

> They will come out.

> ?

> Clean the back of the pads (brake cleaner or MEK) and the piston  

> face, then smear the goop on the back of the pad.

> ?

> Later,

> Mike R

> ?

>

> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes- 

> bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Gary

> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:07 PM

> To: mbcoupes

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] brake question

> ?

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> i put some new brakes and was in a hurry, so i didn't bother with  

> sqeal goop.? now there are squealing.? my ?? is because the? brakes  

> are brand new and they are snug against the rotor is there an easy  

> way to remove the calipers??

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> Message: 2

> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC)

> From: samsisic at comcast.net

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] brake question

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

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> ;-)

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> Message: 5

> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:11:09 -0400

> From: "Bruce Mendel" <brucem105 at comcast.net>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] brake question

> To: <jhodgman at gmail.com>,????????"Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"

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> C'mon, what's the worst that can happen if you rush the brake job?

>

> B

> ??----- Original Message -----

> ??From: Jonathan Hodgman

> ??To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> ??Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:03 PM

> ??Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] brake question

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> ??live and learn! ?Time to pull the pads and start over. ?The benz  

> stuff is good, as is the CRC spray on goo.

>

> ??NEVER hurry/rush when doing brakes, FYI.

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> ??Gary wrote:

> ?? ? ? ? ?i put some new brakes and was in a hurry, so i didn't  

> bother with sqeal goop. ?now there are squealing. ?my ? ?is because  

> the ?brakes are brand new and they are snug against the rotor is  

> there an easy way to remove the calipers? ?

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> Message: 3

> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:29:17 -0700

> From: "Thomas Oelsner" <toelsner at comcast.net>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Hi Everybody

> After 3 years on the California Central Coast, I am back in the Bay  

> Area. I now need a new mechanic for my '90SEC and 190E. I've been  

> seriously disappointed in everybody who has worked on the car in LA  

> and the local MB shop in the town where I lived. For example, after  

> multiple shops and many hundreds of dollars (in addition to the  

> headwork and new valve guide seals), the 560 still idles more  

> roughly than it should. The last place charged me hundreds of  

> dollars to replace the EGR valve, and make a few adjustments. They  

> then proclaimed that the check engine light that came on at low  

> speeds was handled, idle was better, although it was a bit rough at  

> startup and might be a little rough because maybe the motor mounts  

> might be a source of the idle being a bit rough. Well the check  

> light is coming on again and the idle is like it was before they  

> worked on it. They charged hundreds to work on the 190E and it  

> still occasionally blows hot air when the A/C is on. I am fed up  

> and disgu

>  sted with these "mechanics" who supposedly understand these cars,  

> but don't. Does anybody know of a MB repair shop in Silicon Valley  

> (San Jose or Milpitas; alternatively Mountain View) where they know  

> what the heck they are doing besides being able to do standard work  

> that any mechanic could do on the most basic of cars? I think I  

> need to find somebody who actually worked for MB when these cars  

> were made, or was trained by somebody who really understood them.  

> Thanks.

>

> Tom Oelsner

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> Message: 4

> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:40:17 -0400

> From: "Bruce Mendel" <brucem105 at comcast.net>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

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> Try DM Motors in Palo Alto.

>

> Bruce

>  ----- Original Message -----

>  From: Thomas Oelsner

>  To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>  Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:29 PM

>  Subject: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

>

>

>  Hi Everybody

>  After 3 years on the California Central Coast, I am back in the  

> Bay Area. I now need a new mechanic for my '90SEC and 190E. I've  

> been seriously disappointed in everybody who has worked on the car  

> in LA and the local MB shop in the town where I lived. For example,  

> after multiple shops and many hundreds of dollars (in addition to  

> the headwork and new valve guide seals), the 560 still idles more  

> roughly than it should. The last place charged me hundreds of  

> dollars to replace the EGR valve, and make a few adjustments. They  

> then proclaimed that the check engine light that came on at low  

> speeds was handled, idle was better, although it was a bit rough at  

> startup and might be a little rough because maybe the motor mounts  

> might be a source of the idle being a bit rough. Well the check  

> light is coming on again and the idle is like it was before they  

> worked on it. They charged hundreds to work on the 190E and it  

> still occasionally blows hot air when the A/C is on. I am fed up  

> and dis

>  gusted with these "mechanics" who supposedly understand these  

> cars, but don't. Does anybody know of a MB repair shop in Silicon  

> Valley (San Jose or Milpitas; alternatively Mountain View) where  

> they know what the heck they are doing besides being able to do  

> standard work that any mechanic could do on the most basic of cars?  

> I think I need to find somebody who actually worked for MB when  

> these cars were made, or was trained by somebody who really  

> understood them. Thanks.

>

>  Tom Oelsner

>

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> Message: 5

> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:28:15 -0400

> From: shinzbox at aol.com

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

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>  Tom,

> I live in LA and I want to avoid the shop you took your car to.  

> What was the name of and where was it?

> Thanks

> Shin

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Thomas Oelsner <toelsner at comcast.net>

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

> Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:29 pm

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

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> Hi Everybody

>

>

> After 3 years on the California Central Coast, I am

> back in the Bay Area. I now need a new mechanic for my '90SEC and  

> 190E. I've

> been seriously disappointed in everybody who has worked on the car  

> in LA and the

> local MB shop in the town?where I?lived. For example, after multiple

> shops and many?hundreds of dollars (in addition to the headwork and  

> new

> valve guide seals), the 560 still idles more roughly than it  

> should. The last

> place charged me?hundreds of dollars to?replace the EGR valve, and

> make a few adjustments. They then proclaimed that the check engine  

> light that

> came on at low speeds was handled, idle was better, although it was  

> a bit rough

> at startup and might be a little rough because maybe the motor  

> mounts might be a

> source of the idle being a bit rough. Well the check light is  

> coming on again

> and the idle is like it was before they worked on it.?They charged  

> hundreds

> to work on the 190E and it still occasionally blows hot air when  

> the A/C is on.

> I am?fed up and?disgusted?with these "mechanics"?who

> supposedly understand these cars, but don't. Does anybody know of a  

> MB repair

> shop in Silicon Valley (San Jose or Milpitas; alternatively  

> Mountain View) where

> they know what the heck they are doing besides being able to do  

> standard work

> that any mechanic could do on the most basic of cars? I think I  

> need to find

> somebody who?actually worked for?MB?when these cars were made, or

> was trained by somebody who really understood them. Thanks.

>

>

> ?

>

>

> Tom Oelsner?

>

>

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> Message: 6

> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:00:44 -0700

> From: Jim Ham <jimham at porcine.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Paul's Mercedes Werkstat

> 939 Terra Bella Ave

> Mountain View, CA 94043

> 650-694-4926

>

> My car is an '85 500SEC. Paul has done all the service on it for  

> two of the

> three owners during it's life. So far so good - He's not  

> inexpensive, but

> as far as I know he has never made a wrong diagnosis nor repaired  

> something

> that didn't need attention. Up until a few years ago he had a  

> partner and

> called the shop Automotor and Sport on San Antonio Rd, Palo Alto.  

> (or was

> it Automotor ut Spor?). He's a Swiss-German and I believe that his  

> early

> training was in Switzerland. He took car of my 230T before I got  

> the 500SEC.

>

> Down side: don't expect a rigorous schedule.

>

> Regards,

>

> Jim Ham

>

>

>  At 07:29 PM 6/24/2009, you wrote:

> >Hi Everybody

> >After 3 years on the California Central Coast, I am back in the  

> Bay Area.

> >I now need a new mechanic for my '90SEC and 190E. I've been seriously

> >disappointed in everybody who has worked on the car in LA and the  

> local MB

> >shop in the town where I lived. For example, after multiple shops  

> and many

> >hundreds of dollars (in addition to the headwork and new valve guide

> >seals), the 560 still idles more roughly than it should. The last  

> place

> >charged me hundreds of dollars to replace the EGR valve, and make  

> a few

> >adjustments. They then proclaimed that the check engine light that  

> came on

> >at low speeds was handled, idle was better, although it was a bit  

> rough at

> >startup and might be a little rough because maybe the motor mounts  

> might

> >be a source of the idle being a bit rough. Well the check light is  

> coming

> >on again and the idle is like it was before they worked on it. They

> >charged hundreds to work on the 190E and it still occasionally  

> blows hot

> >air when the A/C is on. I am fed up and disgusted with these  

> "mechanics"

> >who supposedly understand these cars, but don't. Does anybody know  

> of a MB

> >repair shop in Silicon Valley (San Jose or Milpitas; alternatively

> >Mountain View) where they know what the heck they are doing  

> besides being

> >able to do standard work that any mechanic could do on the most  

> basic of

> >cars? I think I need to find somebody who actually worked for MB when

> >these cars were made, or was trained by somebody who really  

> understood

> >them. Thanks.

> >

> >Tom Oelsner

> >The MB Coupes Website!

> >W126 SEC Mailing List

> >Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>

> Porcine Associates

> +1.650.326.2669

> www.porcine.com

>

>

>

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> Message: 7

> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:10:19 -0700

> From: "Thomas Oelsner" <toelsner at comcast.net>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <83A7B04162C44AB1BC0683AAB4BA57BF at toelsnerlaptop>

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> Thanks Jim

> Do you happen to know his hourly rate? They all seem to be within a  

> few

> dollars of each other at around $90/hr.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Jim Ham" <jimham at porcine.com>

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:00 AM

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

>

>

> > Paul's Mercedes Werkstat

> > 939 Terra Bella Ave

> > Mountain View, CA 94043

> > 650-694-4926

> >

> > My car is an '85 500SEC. Paul has done all the service on it for  

> two of

> > the three owners during it's life. So far so good - He's not  

> inexpensive,

> > but as far as I know he has never made a wrong diagnosis nor  

> repaired

> > something that didn't need attention. Up until a few years ago he  

> had a

> > partner and called the shop Automotor and Sport on San Antonio  

> Rd, Palo

> > Alto. (or was it Automotor ut Spor?). He's a Swiss-German and I  

> believe

> > that his early training was in Switzerland. He took car of my  

> 230T before

> > I got the 500SEC.

> >

> > Down side: don't expect a rigorous schedule.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Jim Ham

> >

> >

> >  At 07:29 PM 6/24/2009, you wrote:

> >>Hi Everybody

> >>After 3 years on the California Central Coast, I am back in the  

> Bay Area.

> >>I now need a new mechanic for my '90SEC and 190E. I've been  

> seriously

> >>disappointed in everybody who has worked on the car in LA and the  

> local MB

> >>shop in the town where I lived. For example, after multiple shops  

> and many

> >>hundreds of dollars (in addition to the headwork and new valve guide

> >>seals), the 560 still idles more roughly than it should. The last  

> place

> >>charged me hundreds of dollars to replace the EGR valve, and make  

> a few

> >>adjustments. They then proclaimed that the check engine light  

> that came on

> >>at low speeds was handled, idle was better, although it was a bit  

> rough at

> >>startup and might be a little rough because maybe the motor  

> mounts might

> >>be a source of the idle being a bit rough. Well the check light  

> is coming

> >>on again and the idle is like it was before they worked on it. They

> >>charged hundreds to work on the 190E and it still occasionally  

> blows hot

> >>air when the A/C is on. I am fed up and disgusted with these  

> "mechanics"

> >>who supposedly understand these cars, but don't. Does anybody  

> know of a MB

> >>repair shop in Silicon Valley (San Jose or Milpitas; alternatively

> >>Mountain View) where they know what the heck they are doing  

> besides being

> >>able to do standard work that any mechanic could do on the most  

> basic of

> >>cars? I think I need to find somebody who actually worked for MB  

> when

> >>these cars were made, or was trained by somebody who really  

> understood

> >>them. Thanks.

> >>

> >>Tom Oelsner

> >>The MB Coupes Website!

> >>W126 SEC Mailing List

> >>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

> >

> > Porcine Associates

> > +1.650.326.2669

> > www.porcine.com

> > The MB Coupes Website!

> > W126 SEC Mailing List

> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

> >

>

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