[W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 36, Radiator / cooling issue

[Doug Gavin]

Hi folks,  I would like opinions please. On my '90 SEC my temp gauge is
hitting the 100 degree mark and a little above in this 100 degree F. heat in
Houston TX. traffic. Once I get rolling it drops back to  just a little more
than the 80 degree mark. Everything seems to be up to snuff but It has been
recommended that the radiator be replaced.

1. Do you agree?
2. if so, is there a good source for a replacement radiator among this
group?

Thanks,

Doug in Houston

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>   5. Re: need a new repair shop (shinzbox at aol.com)

>   6. Re: need a new repair shop (Jim Ham)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT)

> From: Gary <garysalas at yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] brake question

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> thanks?

> ?

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> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Mike R. <mramay at att.biz> wrote:

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> From: Mike R. <mramay at att.biz>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] brake question

> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 2:02 PM

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> You don't have to remove the calipers, only the brake pad. Push the brake

> pads away from the rotor, pull the two steel pins, gently remove the white

> sensor wires and then the flat metal spring holding the pads in the

> calipers, then just slide the pads out. They will come out.

> ?

> Clean the back of the pads (brake cleaner or MEK) and the piston face, then

> smear the goop on the back of the pad.

> ?

> Later,

> Mike R

> ?

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> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

> On Behalf Of Gary

> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:07 PM

> To: mbcoupes

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] brake question

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> i put some new brakes and was in a hurry, so i didn't bother with sqeal

> goop.? now there are squealing.? my ?? is because the? brakes are brand new

> and they are snug against the rotor is there an easy way to remove the

> calipers??

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> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC)

> From: samsisic at comcast.net

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] brake question

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> Message: 5

> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:11:09 -0400

> From: "Bruce Mendel" <brucem105 at comcast.net>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] brake question

> To: <jhodgman at gmail.com>,????????"Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"

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> C'mon, what's the worst that can happen if you rush the brake job?

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> B

> ??----- Original Message -----

> ??From: Jonathan Hodgman

> ??To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> ??Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:03 PM

> ??Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] brake question

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> ??live and learn! ?Time to pull the pads and start over. ?The benz stuff is

> good, as is the CRC spray on goo.

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> ??NEVER hurry/rush when doing brakes, FYI.

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> ??Gary wrote:

> ?? ? ? ? ?i put some new brakes and was in a hurry, so i didn't bother with

> sqeal goop. ?now there are squealing. ?my ? ?is because the ?brakes are

> brand new and they are snug against the rotor is there an easy way to remove

> the calipers? ?

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> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:29:17 -0700

> From: "Thomas Oelsner" <toelsner at comcast.net>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

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> Hi Everybody

> After 3 years on the California Central Coast, I am back in the Bay Area. I

> now need a new mechanic for my '90SEC and 190E. I've been seriously

> disappointed in everybody who has worked on the car in LA and the local MB

> shop in the town where I lived. For example, after multiple shops and many

> hundreds of dollars (in addition to the headwork and new valve guide seals),

> the 560 still idles more roughly than it should. The last place charged me

> hundreds of dollars to replace the EGR valve, and make a few adjustments.

> They then proclaimed that the check engine light that came on at low speeds

> was handled, idle was better, although it was a bit rough at startup and

> might be a little rough because maybe the motor mounts might be a source of

> the idle being a bit rough. Well the check light is coming on again and the

> idle is like it was before they worked on it. They charged hundreds to work

> on the 190E and it still occasionally blows hot air when the A/C is on. I am

> fed up and disgu

>  sted with these "mechanics" who supposedly understand these cars, but

> don't. Does anybody know of a MB repair shop in Silicon Valley (San Jose or

> Milpitas; alternatively Mountain View) where they know what the heck they

> are doing besides being able to do standard work that any mechanic could do

> on the most basic of cars? I think I need to find somebody who actually

> worked for MB when these cars were made, or was trained by somebody who

> really understood them. Thanks.

>

> Tom Oelsner

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> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:40:17 -0400

> From: "Bruce Mendel" <brucem105 at comcast.net>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

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> Try DM Motors in Palo Alto.

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> Bruce

>  ----- Original Message -----

>  From: Thomas Oelsner

>  To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>  Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:29 PM

>  Subject: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

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>

>  Hi Everybody

>  After 3 years on the California Central Coast, I am back in the Bay Area.

> I now need a new mechanic for my '90SEC and 190E. I've been seriously

> disappointed in everybody who has worked on the car in LA and the local MB

> shop in the town where I lived. For example, after multiple shops and many

> hundreds of dollars (in addition to the headwork and new valve guide seals),

> the 560 still idles more roughly than it should. The last place charged me

> hundreds of dollars to replace the EGR valve, and make a few adjustments.

> They then proclaimed that the check engine light that came on at low speeds

> was handled, idle was better, although it was a bit rough at startup and

> might be a little rough because maybe the motor mounts might be a source of

> the idle being a bit rough. Well the check light is coming on again and the

> idle is like it was before they worked on it. They charged hundreds to work

> on the 190E and it still occasionally blows hot air when the A/C is on. I am

> fed up and dis

>  gusted with these "mechanics" who supposedly understand these cars, but

> don't. Does anybody know of a MB repair shop in Silicon Valley (San Jose or

> Milpitas; alternatively Mountain View) where they know what the heck they

> are doing besides being able to do standard work that any mechanic could do

> on the most basic of cars? I think I need to find somebody who actually

> worked for MB when these cars were made, or was trained by somebody who

> really understood them. Thanks.

>

>  Tom Oelsner

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> Message: 5

> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:28:15 -0400

> From: shinzbox at aol.com

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

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>  Tom,

> I live in LA and I want to avoid the shop you took your car to. What was

> the name of and where was it?

> Thanks

> Shin

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Thomas Oelsner <toelsner at comcast.net>

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

> Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2009 7:29 pm

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

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> Hi Everybody

>

>

> After 3 years on the California Central Coast, I am

> back in the Bay Area. I now need a new mechanic for my '90SEC and 190E.

> I've

> been seriously disappointed in everybody who has worked on the car in LA

> and the

> local MB shop in the town?where I?lived. For example, after multiple

> shops and many?hundreds of dollars (in addition to the headwork and new

> valve guide seals), the 560 still idles more roughly than it should. The

> last

> place charged me?hundreds of dollars to?replace the EGR valve, and

> make a few adjustments. They then proclaimed that the check engine light

> that

> came on at low speeds was handled, idle was better, although it was a bit

> rough

> at startup and might be a little rough because maybe the motor mounts might

> be a

> source of the idle being a bit rough. Well the check light is coming on

> again

> and the idle is like it was before they worked on it.?They charged hundreds

> to work on the 190E and it still occasionally blows hot air when the A/C is

> on.

> I am?fed up and?disgusted?with these "mechanics"?who

> supposedly understand these cars, but don't. Does anybody know of a MB

> repair

> shop in Silicon Valley (San Jose or Milpitas; alternatively Mountain View)

> where

> they know what the heck they are doing besides being able to do standard

> work

> that any mechanic could do on the most basic of cars? I think I need to

> find

> somebody who?actually worked for?MB?when these cars were made, or

> was trained by somebody who really understood them. Thanks.

>

>

> ?

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>

> Tom Oelsner?

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> Message: 6

> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:00:44 -0700

> From: Jim Ham <jimham at porcine.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Paul's Mercedes Werkstat

> 939 Terra Bella Ave

> Mountain View, CA 94043

> 650-694-4926

>

> My car is an '85 500SEC. Paul has done all the service on it for two of the

> three owners during it's life. So far so good - He's not inexpensive, but

> as far as I know he has never made a wrong diagnosis nor repaired something

> that didn't need attention. Up until a few years ago he had a partner and

> called the shop Automotor and Sport on San Antonio Rd, Palo Alto. (or was

> it Automotor ut Spor?). He's a Swiss-German and I believe that his early

> training was in Switzerland. He took car of my 230T before I got the

> 500SEC.

>

> Down side: don't expect a rigorous schedule.

>

> Regards,

>

> Jim Ham

>

>

>  At 07:29 PM 6/24/2009, you wrote:

> >Hi Everybody

> >After 3 years on the California Central Coast, I am back in the Bay Area.

> >I now need a new mechanic for my '90SEC and 190E. I've been seriously

> >disappointed in everybody who has worked on the car in LA and the local MB

> >shop in the town where I lived. For example, after multiple shops and many

> >hundreds of dollars (in addition to the headwork and new valve guide

> >seals), the 560 still idles more roughly than it should. The last place

> >charged me hundreds of dollars to replace the EGR valve, and make a few

> >adjustments. They then proclaimed that the check engine light that came on

> >at low speeds was handled, idle was better, although it was a bit rough at

> >startup and might be a little rough because maybe the motor mounts might

> >be a source of the idle being a bit rough. Well the check light is coming

> >on again and the idle is like it was before they worked on it. They

> >charged hundreds to work on the 190E and it still occasionally blows hot

> >air when the A/C is on. I am fed up and disgusted with these "mechanics"

> >who supposedly understand these cars, but don't. Does anybody know of a MB

> >repair shop in Silicon Valley (San Jose or Milpitas; alternatively

> >Mountain View) where they know what the heck they are doing besides being

> >able to do standard work that any mechanic could do on the most basic of

> >cars? I think I need to find somebody who actually worked for MB when

> >these cars were made, or was trained by somebody who really understood

> >them. Thanks.

> >

> >Tom Oelsner

> >The MB Coupes Website!

> >W126 SEC Mailing List

> >Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>

> Porcine Associates

> +1.650.326.2669

> www.porcine.com

>

>

>

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> Message: 7

> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:10:19 -0700

> From: "Thomas Oelsner" <toelsner at comcast.net>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Thanks Jim

> Do you happen to know his hourly rate? They all seem to be within a few

> dollars of each other at around $90/hr.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Jim Ham" <jimham at porcine.com>

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:00 AM

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] need a new repair shop

>

>

> > Paul's Mercedes Werkstat

> > 939 Terra Bella Ave

> > Mountain View, CA 94043

> > 650-694-4926

> >

> > My car is an '85 500SEC. Paul has done all the service on it for two of

> > the three owners during it's life. So far so good - He's not inexpensive,

> > but as far as I know he has never made a wrong diagnosis nor repaired

> > something that didn't need attention. Up until a few years ago he had a

> > partner and called the shop Automotor and Sport on San Antonio Rd, Palo

> > Alto. (or was it Automotor ut Spor?). He's a Swiss-German and I believe

> > that his early training was in Switzerland. He took car of my 230T before

> > I got the 500SEC.

> >

> > Down side: don't expect a rigorous schedule.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Jim Ham

> >

> >

> >  At 07:29 PM 6/24/2009, you wrote:

> >>Hi Everybody

> >>After 3 years on the California Central Coast, I am back in the Bay Area.

> >>I now need a new mechanic for my '90SEC and 190E. I've been seriously

> >>disappointed in everybody who has worked on the car in LA and the local

> MB

> >>shop in the town where I lived. For example, after multiple shops and

> many

> >>hundreds of dollars (in addition to the headwork and new valve guide

> >>seals), the 560 still idles more roughly than it should. The last place

> >>charged me hundreds of dollars to replace the EGR valve, and make a few

> >>adjustments. They then proclaimed that the check engine light that came

> on

> >>at low speeds was handled, idle was better, although it was a bit rough

> at

> >>startup and might be a little rough because maybe the motor mounts might

> >>be a source of the idle being a bit rough. Well the check light is coming

> >>on again and the idle is like it was before they worked on it. They

> >>charged hundreds to work on the 190E and it still occasionally blows hot

> >>air when the A/C is on. I am fed up and disgusted with these "mechanics"

> >>who supposedly understand these cars, but don't. Does anybody know of a

> MB

> >>repair shop in Silicon Valley (San Jose or Milpitas; alternatively

> >>Mountain View) where they know what the heck they are doing besides being

> >>able to do standard work that any mechanic could do on the most basic of

> >>cars? I think I need to find somebody who actually worked for MB when

> >>these cars were made, or was trained by somebody who really understood

> >>them. Thanks.

> >>

> >>Tom Oelsner

> >>The MB Coupes Website!

> >>W126 SEC Mailing List

> >>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

> >

> > Porcine Associates

> > +1.650.326.2669

> > www.porcine.com

> > The MB Coupes Website!

> > W126 SEC Mailing List

> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

> >

>

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