[W126 Coupe] gas prices

[Mike Beyersdoerfer]

I wish that I could.  Come to Colorado with your favorite beer and I  
will trade.

Yesterday I drove up into the mountains  on US 34 in the 560 SEC and  
it ran perfectly on 87 Octane with LHP.

For those of you who have the opportunity I highly recommend the drive  
into the Rockies. on US 34 the highest divided US highway in the  
country (12,000 feet at the highest point)
Mike


On Jul 10, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Kelly Frink wrote:


> Mike

> Please send free sample to all on the list.

>

> Thanks

>

> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 

> ] On Behalf Of Mike Beyersdoerfer

> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:18 PM

> To: Bruce Mendel; Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gas prices

>

> Bruce,

>

> I don't blame anyone for being skeptical.  I was before I tested for  

> myself and then became a distributor.

> What is funny is the most skeptical guys in the beginning our now my  

> best customers.

>

> It will take 92 to 96-97 depending on the blend in your area.  This  

> products performance has been proven on a dyno many times on many  

> different engines.

> One 6 oz bottle cost $10.95 treats 30 gals.

>

> Speaking of Jeeps my wife's 2007 Jeep Commander Flex Fuel V8 gets  

> 13.5 MPG without 17-18 MPG with LHP.

>

> They also have a diesel product that is even more amazing.  We have  

> a Semi Truck fleet customer who picked up 300 miles per tank for  

> $14.95.  He is not complaining.

>

> Go to www.liquidhorsepower.com.

>

> Mike

> On Jul 10, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Bruce Mendel wrote:

>

>

> I am really wondering about those claims (nothing personal).

>

> First of all, in the industry they use the term "points" of octane  

> pretty liberally. It actually means tenths of a point. So when you  

> say a can of LHP raises octane 5 points, that means it goes from 92  

> to 92.5, which most people do not realizes.

>

> Second, fuel burning slower, if that's even possible, is bad for  

> power and maybe good for fuel economy. But I would still wait for a  

> truly scientific test of the results.

>

> The ASTM test result is nice, but is mostly qualitative, not  

> quantitative. For example, exactly how much MPG increase is there,  

> and how was it tested? And same for HP. And I'd love to see before  

> and after octane testing as well.

>

> Not saying it doesn't help, but those are some serious claims  

> without real scientifically derived data to back them up.

>

> Bruce

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Mike Beyersdoerfer

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:50 AM

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gas prices

>

> Hi Jay,

>

> We have the same problem here in Colorado, except we have another  

> factor at 5000 ft.

>

> I use Liquid Horsepower in my car 1987 560SEC. This product has a  

> combustion catalyst that makes the fuel burn slower.   My car runs  

> better, gets better mileage and keeps injectors clean even on mid  

> grade fuel.  It raises the octane 5 points.

>

> Last year I used this product with great results for 5000 miles on  

> the Hot Rod Power Tour in my 1965 Buick, with a Buick 455 Stage One  

> motor at 10.5 compression with 36 degrees advance.

>

> I am the Western Distributor and sell this product all over the  

> country.  We have over 150 Harley Davidson dealers who swear by this  

> product. Harleys won't run properly on pump gas here.

>

> It has also been tested using the standard ASTM D5500 test  

> procedures. which is commonly used for evaluation of intake valve  

> deposit formation. This method uses a1985 BMW 318i driven in a  

> driving pattern comprising 10%, 20% urban and 70% highway driving  

> for 10,000 miles.

>

> Results of the test were

> 1.LHP exhibits good intake valve detergency and meets EPA compliance  

> performance criteria

> 2. Improved fuel economy,reduced exhaust emissions, prevents  

> drivability deterioration (rough idling, stalling and surging)

> 3. Excellent clean up performance under a modified CARB D 5598 test  

> method at a concentration rate of 85 ppmv

>

> If you want to try it out call me,

>

> Good Luck,

> Mike

> 970-377-2882

> 87 560 SEC

> 65 Buick Sportwagon

> 72 Buick Skylark

>

>

> On Jul 10, 2008, at 7:29 AM, jflyer2 at aim.com wrote:

>

>

> Here in Florida, the big push is for E10 (10% ethanol blend) with a  

> new law passed that mandates its use by 2010. However, even though  

> it burns cleaner and is supposedly cheaper that regular gas, it is  

> not being sold any cheaper here and they neglect to tell the  

> consumer that ethanol provides only about 2/3 the power of pure gas.  

> Thus giving cars using E10 about three percent less fuel economy  

> while not running as well. Also, the older the car, the gas mileage  

> is affected even more. Cars built before 1982, may in fact, sustain  

> engine damage from using it.

>

> Since it is primarily made from corn and corn is used as feed for  

> cattle, the cost of beef is increasing.

>

> I guess that we'll have to start eating veggie burgers and quit  

> driving our coupes and donate them to either museums or scrap yards.  

> Or maybe we'll have to look at converting them to Prius power.

>

> Jay

> '91 560 SEC (Almost a full=time driver and no where near a museum  

> quality.) ;-(

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Andrew Sporner <asporner at googlemail.com>

> To: RONNY GEENEN <ronny.geenen at verizon.net>; Mercedes Coupes Mailing  

> Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 3:52 am

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gas prices

> Ohhh such a senstive subject with our group ;-)

>

> > With gas prices surging, ExxonMobil chief Rex Tillerson made $21.7  

> million

> > last year; Chevron's David O'Reilly made $15.7 million. But the  

> companies

> > claim they're not to blame for high prices. So why the big payouts?

>

> Like the prez sez, "we're hooked on oil!"

>

> As I had said before, I would hope alternatives would be better  

> researched.

> The government here (germany) doesn't tax LPG (yet!!).  I would  

> think if our

> (US) government were clever and is *really* serious about getting us  

> off and

> to improve overall security, they would follow suite.

>

> Still it is nice to drive a guzzler from time to time ;-)

>

>

>

> Andy

>

>

> >

> > Ronny

> > Glendora, Ca 91740

> > 1987 560 SEC

> > 1984 300 SD

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