[AGL] death to child molesters? Any excuse for the death penaltywill do.

Thu Nov 2 15:07:38 EST 2006

Frances-- Your post below is  a sane response to an insane world.

Jon

>From: Frances Morey <frances_morey at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 
>60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 
>60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>Subject: Re: [AGL] death to child molesters? Any excuse for the death 
>penaltywill do.
>Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 07:44:57 -0800 (PST)
>
>Child molestation, anything from fondling to murder apparently, grabs the 
>attention all right. There are degrees of it and any added excuse for 
>capital punishment is abhorrant to me. Meanwhile countless numbers of 
>children are neglected, "spanked" and otherwise severely throttled as well 
>as emotionally abused by their own parents. Most such crimes remain unseen 
>in the domestic setting. The punishment when child abuse in the home is 
>determined is to take them away from their parents, incarcerate the 
>parents, and banish the children to foster care which can be just as brutal 
>as the parents are, if not worse. Murder isn't mere child molestation, it's 
>criminal. I don't know the answer but capitol punishment isn't the 
>solution.
>   Frances
>
>
>michele mason <yaya.m at earthlink.net> wrote:
>   It was terrible if I remember correctly. I believe I saw it some time
>ago. Jon, I'm not talking murder and mahem(sp?), but I am for making
>certain there's never another victim. I recognize the molesters as
>victims as well, but they are still alive while there victims are
>tortured to death. I wish we knew how to "fix" them, but we don't and
>our first priority must be the helpless child. I'll answer the other ?
>you sent when I locate the email in a few moments. mm
>
>On Oct 31, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Jon Ford wrote:
>
> >
> > I despise child molesters as much as anyone, but they are living human
> > beings, so I wouldn't wish them all dead. We are all warped and
> > imperfect-- each in his or her own way. For some strange reason, "God"
> > (or whoever) made us this way. For a film on the hatred of child
> > molesters and how it can take over a community, check out the recent
> > film, "Little Children."
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >> From: michele mason
> >> Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the
> >> 60s
> >> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the
> >> 60s
> >> Subject: Re: [AGL] vast ignorance
> >> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:50:50 -0600
> >>
> >> Mike, don't you see, I don't wish anybody dead in anything except
> >> child molesters. May God forgive me for that. It was just a vent of
> >> exasperation—not real. I find it odd that you would think such a
> >> thing of me. I thought we were friends who could blow off some steam
> >> and know we're not serious—just frustrated. Just tired. Its been a
> >> long long day. I don't want to live in fear that my friend would get
> >> rid of me because its a hard day. C'mon. Delete and let live. mm
> >>
> >> On Oct 31, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michele,
> >>>
> >>> No I did read it. I found it odd that you would
> >>> speak your love and at the same time wish them
> >>> all dead in a tsunami.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Michele Mason"
> >>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:23 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [AGL] vast ignorance
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike, You must not have read the part where I said "alas, I love them
> >>> all", And there was even more love thru out. I do understand that its
> >>> territory—I just wish they all could follow that biggest of all
> >>> commandments—thats all.
> >>> No, I wasn't born into it, but I've kept up since about '61. The hate
> >>> is awful and both books teach that hate will destroy the one who
> >>> carries it. It was just a heartfelt plea for every ones peace.
> >>> Israel does have a very prosperous economy—they have so much to
> >>> offer—except the arms part. The P's just know hurt, fear and hatred.
> >>> They could learn; they could share. There are more of them that feel
> >>> this way than anyone knows. I will pray for it to spread. I will vote
> >>> against arms, maybe write letters—that' about the best I can do, but
> >>> they are my brothers and sisters no matter what they think. Now,
> >>> hopefully that's Christian enough for you. mm
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Michele and Frances,
> >>>>
> >>>> Your ignorance about Israel is quite understandable
> >>>> as you were not born into this mess.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is NOT about religion, it is about territory. Zionism
> >>>> went to Palestine as a colonial enterprise to give the jooz
> >>>> their own country and remove them from Europe where
> >>>> it was evident in the late 19th century that they would
> >>>> never be accepted or assimilated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wrong part of the world to go. They didnt know what
> >>>> a hornet's nest they would stir up. Tought titty on them.
> >>>> But there they are and there they will stay unles they are
> >>>> overwhelmed by the rising tide of militant Islam. In
> >>>> the long term, they may be doomed. In the short
> >>>> term, they are a VERY prosperous economy from
> >>>> manufacturing and high tech. They will fight hard for
> >>>> their survival. Territory is the issue, not religion.
> >>>>
> >>>> For Frances to wish all the Palestinians and
> >>>> Israelis dead because they're bothering her peaceful
> >>>> life is disgusting (pardon my French). Likewise Michele
> >>>> wanting them all dead is disgusting. Where is your
> >>>> Christian love?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
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