[AGL] death to child molesters?
michele mason
yaya.m at earthlink.net
Thu Nov 2 09:30:08 EST 2006
Yes and yes, but not "society" as a whole. However society permits it
go on by not making the decision that "It shall not". But, I'm getting
ahead of myself.
Some of the following is what I believe based on studying Scripture
from my Holy Bible and other sources. The hard part for most folk is
what God has told me. I am so blessed to be in contact with the Holy
Spirit from time to time and other "miracles" that don't directly apply
in this case. I'm prepared for the attacks and name calling because
I've walked this road for a long time. You will value what you will.
I believe that God (or whatever name you choose) made us because He/She
needed love—that in some way He was lonely and because He had a need to
"see Himself" Why do I—because He made us in His own image and those
are generally our reasons. We'll save the "mistakes" for another day.
He placed us in a perfect place where all our needs were met (without
spilling a drop of blood). He gave us free will—otherwise how would we
be like Him and what would our love be worth if we didn't choose it?
Then came curiosity. Had things progressed in the way He wanted, we
would have been good, obedient students, matching knowledge with wisdom
and growing towards oneness with Him.
The Tree of Knowledge was not all about sex, it was about sex and
everything else. Seduced by instant gratification, we transgressed—not
waiting to learn wisdom as He intended to teach us. (We continue, to
this moment to use knowledge without wisdom.) Now we had the knowledge
of good and evil and could no longer live in perfection.
Does our Creator hurt—oh yes—like any other loving parent, He grieved.
But, we had made our choice. The grief was the knowledge of what a
dangerous world His children would now walk. Along the way He would try
to help us—still, it is our choice and choosing the right way does not
mean it will be easy. All sorts of evils exist in the natural world and
we have to choose well and try to overcome and manage them as best we
can.
There are prayer warriors and there are cops. There are those who value
what is holy and those who "lean unto their own understanding" rather
than seek the truth.
There is no way for me to fill in all without writing the whole book
and knowing the whole book is even harder. But, yes, we have chosen the
crooked path—not unlike Pandora's Box—its hard to get all those demons
back in the box. And yet we have the tools to do it and we search for
more and better ones all the time. We begin with a mindset, then learn
to accept the overcoming power we possess.
Right, none of us are perfect, but in so far as child molesters go,
that is far beyond imperfect. We know they seem to breed and that
suggests that the victim becomes the evil. There are researchers
working on a "cure," or a treatment. But until we know what to do, it
is our responsibility to protect the child first. The only way I know
of , to be sure, is to lock them up. One more child is not acceptable.
I question the death penalty, probably for the same reasons others do.
But in the case of a self-confessed, clever creature, who delights in
his actions and succeeds multiple times, I have no problem at all—even
to the knowledge that it may set him, or her, free from an evil we
cannot exorcise. One more child is not acceptable.
Jon; That's the best I can do with the time I have, for now. I'm glad
for every moment I have to build a friendship. I hope we are. I've got
tons to do, but it was an important question, See you all tomorrow. mm
On Oct 31, 2006, at 6:38 PM, Jon Ford wrote:
> Michelle-- if God didn't make child molestors, who did? Our twisted
> society? But aren't we all a part of this society, each bent in our
> own way?
>
> Jon
>
>
>> From: Michele Mason <yaya.m at earthlink.net>
>> Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the
>> 60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the
>> 60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>> Subject: Re: [AGL] death to child molesters?
>> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:24:13 -0600
>>
>> No Jon, God didn't make them. We who have been given the power to do,
>> not to do and stop doers must make up our minds to not allow,
>> however wisest to find. Must get sleep. Blessings to all mm
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Jon Ford wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I despise child molesters as much as anyone, but they are living
>>> human beings, so I wouldn't wish them all dead. We are all warped
>>> and imperfect-- each in his or her own way. For some strange
>>> reason, "God" (or whoever) made us this way. For a film on the
>>> hatred of child molesters and how it can take over a community,
>>> check out the recent film, "Little Children."
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>> From: michele mason <yaya.m at earthlink.net>
>>>> Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the
>>>> 60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>>>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the
>>>> 60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] vast ignorance
>>>> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:50:50 -0600
>>>>
>>>> Mike, don't you see, I don't wish anybody dead in anything except
>>>> child molesters. May God forgive me for that. It was just a vent of
>>>> exasperation—not real. I find it odd that you would think such a
>>>> thing of me. I thought we were friends who could blow off some
>>>> steam and know we're not serious—just frustrated. Just tired. Its
>>>> been a long long day. I don't want to live in fear that my friend
>>>> would get rid of me because its a hard day. C'mon. Delete and let
>>>> live. mm
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Michele,
>>>>>
>>>>> No I did read it. I found it odd that you would
>>>>> speak your love and at the same time wish them
>>>>> all dead in a tsunami.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Michele Mason" <yaya.m at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"
>>>>> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] vast ignorance
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike, You must not have read the part where I said "alas, I love
>>>>> them
>>>>> all", And there was even more love thru out. I do understand that
>>>>> its
>>>>> territory—I just wish they all could follow that biggest of all
>>>>> commandments—thats all.
>>>>> No, I wasn't born into it, but I've kept up since about '61. The
>>>>> hate
>>>>> is awful and both books teach that hate will destroy the one who
>>>>> carries it. It was just a heartfelt plea for every ones peace.
>>>>> Israel does have a very prosperous economy—they have so much to
>>>>> offer—except the arms part. The P's just know hurt, fear and
>>>>> hatred.
>>>>> They could learn; they could share. There are more of them that
>>>>> feel
>>>>> this way than anyone knows. I will pray for it to spread. I will
>>>>> vote
>>>>> against arms, maybe write letters—that' about the best I can do,
>>>>> but
>>>>> they are my brothers and sisters no matter what they think. Now,
>>>>> hopefully that's Christian enough for you. mm
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Michele and Frances,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your ignorance about Israel is quite understandable
>>>>>> as you were not born into this mess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is NOT about religion, it is about territory. Zionism
>>>>>> went to Palestine as a colonial enterprise to give the jooz
>>>>>> their own country and remove them from Europe where
>>>>>> it was evident in the late 19th century that they would
>>>>>> never be accepted or assimilated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong part of the world to go. They didnt know what
>>>>>> a hornet's nest they would stir up. Tought titty on them.
>>>>>> But there they are and there they will stay unles they are
>>>>>> overwhelmed by the rising tide of militant Islam. In
>>>>>> the long term, they may be doomed. In the short
>>>>>> term, they are a VERY prosperous economy from
>>>>>> manufacturing and high tech. They will fight hard for
>>>>>> their survival. Territory is the issue, not religion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Frances to wish all the Palestinians and
>>>>>> Israelis dead because they're bothering her peaceful
>>>>>> life is disgusting (pardon my French). Likewise Michele
>>>>>> wanting them all dead is disgusting. Where is your
>>>>>> Christian love?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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