[AGL] death to child molesters? Any excuse for the death penalty will do.

[Frances Morey]

Child molestation, anything from fondling to murder apparently, grabs the attention all right. There are degrees of it and any added excuse for capital punishment is abhorrant to me. Meanwhile countless numbers of children are neglected, "spanked" and otherwise severely throttled as well as emotionally abused by their own parents. Most such crimes remain unseen in the domestic setting. The punishment when child abuse in the home is determined is to take them away from their parents, incarcerate the parents, and banish the children to foster care which can be just as brutal as the parents are, if not worse. Murder isn't mere child molestation, it's criminal. I don't know the answer but capitol punishment isn't the solution.
  Frances 
   

michele mason <yaya.m at earthlink.net> wrote:
  It was terrible if I remember correctly. I believe I saw it some time 
ago. Jon, I'm not talking murder and mahem(sp?), but I am for making 
certain there's never another victim. I recognize the molesters as 
victims as well, but they are still alive while there victims are 
tortured to death. I wish we knew how to "fix" them, but we don't and 
our first priority must be the helpless child. I'll answer the other ? 
you sent when I locate the email in a few moments. mm

On Oct 31, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Jon Ford wrote:

>
> I despise child molesters as much as anyone, but they are living human 
> beings, so I wouldn't wish them all dead. We are all warped and 
> imperfect-- each in his or her own way. For some strange reason, "God" 
> (or whoever) made us this way. For a film on the hatred of child 
> molesters and how it can take over a community, check out the recent 
> film, "Little Children."
>
> Jon
>
>> From: michele mason 
>> Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 
>> 60s
>> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 
>> 60s
>> Subject: Re: [AGL] vast ignorance
>> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:50:50 -0600
>>
>> Mike, don't you see, I don't wish anybody dead in anything except 
>> child molesters. May God forgive me for that. It was just a vent of 
>> exasperation—not real. I find it odd that you would think such a 
>> thing of me. I thought we were friends who could blow off some steam 
>> and know we're not serious—just frustrated. Just tired. Its been a 
>> long long day. I don't want to live in fear that my friend would get 
>> rid of me because its a hard day. C'mon. Delete and let live. mm
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:
>>
>>> Michele,
>>>
>>> No I did read it. I found it odd that you would
>>> speak your love and at the same time wish them
>>> all dead in a tsunami.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michele Mason" 
>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"
>>> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] vast ignorance
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike, You must not have read the part where I said "alas, I love them
>>> all", And there was even more love thru out. I do understand that its
>>> territory—I just wish they all could follow that biggest of all
>>> commandments—thats all.
>>> No, I wasn't born into it, but I've kept up since about '61. The hate
>>> is awful and both books teach that hate will destroy the one who
>>> carries it. It was just a heartfelt plea for every ones peace.
>>> Israel does have a very prosperous economy—they have so much to
>>> offer—except the arms part. The P's just know hurt, fear and hatred.
>>> They could learn; they could share. There are more of them that feel
>>> this way than anyone knows. I will pray for it to spread. I will vote
>>> against arms, maybe write letters—that' about the best I can do, but
>>> they are my brothers and sisters no matter what they think. Now,
>>> hopefully that's Christian enough for you. mm
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michele and Frances,
>>>>
>>>> Your ignorance about Israel is quite understandable
>>>> as you were not born into this mess.
>>>>
>>>> It is NOT about religion, it is about territory. Zionism
>>>> went to Palestine as a colonial enterprise to give the jooz
>>>> their own country and remove them from Europe where
>>>> it was evident in the late 19th century that they would
>>>> never be accepted or assimilated.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong part of the world to go. They didnt know what
>>>> a hornet's nest they would stir up. Tought titty on them.
>>>> But there they are and there they will stay unles they are
>>>> overwhelmed by the rising tide of militant Islam. In
>>>> the long term, they may be doomed. In the short
>>>> term, they are a VERY prosperous economy from
>>>> manufacturing and high tech. They will fight hard for
>>>> their survival. Territory is the issue, not religion.
>>>>
>>>> For Frances to wish all the Palestinians and
>>>> Israelis dead because they're bothering her peaceful
>>>> life is disgusting (pardon my French). Likewise Michele
>>>> wanting them all dead is disgusting. Where is your
>>>> Christian love?
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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