Fwd: 501(c)(3) proposed legislation (affecting churches). Our federal government at work.
Frances Morey
frances_morey@excite.com
Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:18:35 -0800 (PST)
Could this signal the end of charity as we know it, like welfare under the
Clinton administration?
Frances
On Mon, 03 Dec 2001 17:04:55 -0800, Jon Ford wrote:
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> >From: "Don Laird" <dlaird1@austin.rr.com>
> >To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> >Subject: 501(c)(3) proposed legislation (affecting churches). Our
federal
> >government at work.
> >Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 00:44:16 -0600
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> > > ------- Forwarded message follows -------
> > > Date sent: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 02:09:05 -0600
> > > To: libertyics@egroups.com
> > > From: Skip W <jrwent@earthlink.net>
> > > Subject: PROP: More Seizures Authorized Under "Anti-Terrorism"
> > > Legislation...
> > >
> > > >From: "John Dunham" <ddunham@sisqtel.net>
> > > >From: JDC
> > > >From: WILLIAM B ATWOOD [mailto:madd_professor@prodigy.net]
> > > >Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 11:33 PM
> > > >Subject: 501C now in jeapordy.
> > > >
> > > > U.S. Government agencies will be able to seize assets of
> > > >citizens, 501C3 and other organizations and their members without
ever
> > > >disclosing the evidence against their property. Government need only
> > > >allege that disclosing such evidence may compromise National
security
> > > >and/or an ongoing investigation.
> > > >
> > > >Consider these items in the new Senate Terrorist Bill 1510: "MONEY
> > > >LAUNDERING ABATEMENT AND ANTI-TERRORIST FINANCING ACT OF 2001"
> > > >
> > > >Political Activists and Demonstrators should Zero in on S.1510. The
> > > >bill's provisions can be used to eradicate public dissent - - and
you!
> > > >Under Senate Bill 1510, now being considered in the Senate as an
> > > >Anti-terrorism act:
> > > >
> > > >a.. An entire 501C3 organization or other organization, including
its
> > > >members, can have their assets seized for supporting bodily acts or
> > > >international causes that the U.S. Secretary of State may deem
> >terrorist
> > > >activity. Political activities that were legal prior to S.1510 may
> > > >"RETROACTIVELY" be deemed terrorist activity by U.S. Government.
> > > >Participants and supporters may be charged with terrorist and other
> > > >offenses.
> > > >
> > > >If you want to read this bill for yourself, go to
> >http://Thomas.loc.gov,
> > > >to the 107th Congress, and Senate Bill 1510.
> > > >
> > > >(2). S.1510 "RETROACTIVELY" abolishes the "Statue of Limitations"
for
> > > >many past offenses where no one was injured. After passage of
S.1510,
> > > >any past offense that can be broadly alleged to have put someone "at
> > > >risk" may be used by federal and state prosecutors to charge a
citizen
> > > >with a terrorist act - even 30 years after the Statute of
Limitations
> > > >period had already passed. Government will have no difficulty
> > > >manufacturing evidence to prosecute citizens once Constitutional
> > > >safeguards against passing Retroactive Laws are abolished after
passage
> > > >of S.1510.
> > > >
> > > >(3) No "innocent owner defense" allowed against Asset Forfeiture
when,
> > > >after passage of S 1510, U.S. Government agencies will be able to
seize
> > > >assets of citizens, 501C3 and other organizations and their members
> > > >without ever disclosing the evidence against their property.
> > > >
> > > >Government need only allege that disclosing such evidence may
> >compromise
> > > >National security and/or an ongoing investigation. S 1510 provides
for
> > > >paying "unnamed informants huge rewards" resulting from arrests and
> > > >forfeited assets. It is hard to believe any organization or citizen
> > > >could ever recover their assets once they are seized by a government
> > > >agency in the name of National Security. That may include a
citizen's
> > > >home in which an informant secretly alleges someone said the wrong
> > > >thing.
> > > >
> > > >(4) "D Below" is from the Senate Bill 1510. So much for trusting
> > > >attorneys!
> > > >"(d) UNDERCOVER ACTIVITIES- Notwithstanding any provision of State
law,
> > > >including disciplinary rules, statutes, regulations, constitutional
> > > >provisions, or case law, a Government attorney may, for the purpose
of
> > > >enforcing Federal law, provide legal advice, authorization,
> >concurrence,
> > > >direction, or supervision on conducting undercover activities, and
any
> > > >attorney employed as an investigator or other law enforcement agent
by
> > > >the Department of Justice who is not authorized to represent the
United
> > > >States in criminal or civil law enforcement litigation or to
supervise
> > > >such proceedings may participate in such activities, even though
such
> > > >activities may require the use of deceit or misrepresentation, where
> > > >such activities are consistent with Federal law.
> > > >
> > > >(e) ADMISSIBILITY OF EVIDENCE- No violation of any disciplinary,
> > > >ethical, or professional conduct rule shall be construed to permit
the
> > > >exclusion of otherwise admissible evidence in any Federal criminal
> > > >proceedings".
> > > >
> > > >This bill is similar to the one Adolf Hitler pushed through the
> > > >Reichstag after the Reichstag fire in the early 1930's. German Jews,
> > > >horrified by the chaos in Germany after the fire, supported Hitler's
> > > >legislation - then found he could (and planned to) use it against
them.
> > > >
> > > >This is worse legislation than the Sedition Laws of the 1790's,
later
> > > >declared unconstitutional and leading to the end of John Adams'
> > > >presidency.
> > > >
> > > >Understand! Under the law as now written, you and anyone connected
with
> > > >any organization - 501(c)(3), church, Rotary, any organization - can
be
> > > >snagged under this legislation. Lifting the Statute of Limitations
> >means
> > > >that you could have your home and other assets seized if you were a
> > > >member of an organization that supported, for example, Leonard
Peltier,
> > > >or sent food or medicine to Cuba, or even protested against nukes in
> >the
> > > >'60s - and the U.S.G. decided that that organization was then or is
now
> >in
> > > >any way associated with someone or some organization that is somehow
> > > >connected to a "terrorist organization."
> > > >
> > > >Of course, it will be said that that is highly unlikely to happen if
> >you
> > > >keep your nose clean - and don't give financial or other support to
any
> > > >suspect organization.
> > > >
> > > >There are thousands of people in our prisons now, put there by the
> > > >testimony of paid/"rewarded" informers. All it takes is for some
such
> > > >person to provide "testimony" that the ACLU or the Sierra Club or
> > > >Pastors for Peace, or other organization is "supporting" terrorists.
Or
> > > >maybe some member of such an organization does provide support to a
> > > >terrorist: all members are liable to imprisonment and seizure of
their
> > > >assets.
> > > >
> > > >Who, under a law like that, is going to give funding to any
501(c)(3)
> > > >organization or any other actionist group - even for work with
> > > >rehabilitating prisoners or drug addicts, or providing housing for
the
> > > >poor?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------- End of forwarded message -------
> >
> >
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