Fwd: 501(c)(3) proposed legislation (affecting churches). Our federal government at work.
Jim Strong
strongjim@yahoo.com
Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:32:41 -0800 (PST)
The end of personal charity perhaps, but certainly not
corporate charity (which begins in the Homeland) ...
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They say, for instanmce, Enron plans to continue heavy
political contributions to the Usual Suspects even
though "non essential" employees continue to get laid
off ...
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Billy Jim
--- Frances Morey <Frances_Morey@excite.com> wrote:
> Could this signal the end of charity as we know it,
> like welfare under the
> Clinton administration?
> Frances
>
>
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2001 17:04:55 -0800, Jon Ford wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Don Laird" <dlaird1@austin.rr.com>
> > >To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> > >Subject: 501(c)(3) proposed legislation
> (affecting churches). Our
> federal
> > >government at work.
> > >Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 00:44:16 -0600
> > >
> > >
> > > > ------- Forwarded message follows -------
> > > > Date sent: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 02:09:05
> -0600
> > > > To: libertyics@egroups.com
> > > > From: Skip W <jrwent@earthlink.net>
> > > > Subject: PROP: More Seizures
> Authorized Under "Anti-Terrorism"
> > > > Legislation...
> > > >
> > > > >From: "John Dunham" <ddunham@sisqtel.net>
> > > > >From: JDC
> > > > >From: WILLIAM B ATWOOD
> [mailto:madd_professor@prodigy.net]
> > > > >Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 11:33 PM
> > > > >Subject: 501C now in jeapordy.
> > > > >
> > > > > U.S. Government agencies will be able to
> seize assets of
> > > > >citizens, 501C3 and other organizations and
> their members without
> ever
> > > > >disclosing the evidence against their
> property. Government need only
> > > > >allege that disclosing such evidence may
> compromise National
> security
> > > > >and/or an ongoing investigation.
> > > > >
> > > > >Consider these items in the new Senate
> Terrorist Bill 1510: "MONEY
> > > > >LAUNDERING ABATEMENT AND ANTI-TERRORIST
> FINANCING ACT OF 2001"
> > > > >
> > > > >Political Activists and Demonstrators should
> Zero in on S.1510. The
> > > > >bill's provisions can be used to eradicate
> public dissent - - and
> you!
> > > > >Under Senate Bill 1510, now being considered
> in the Senate as an
> > > > >Anti-terrorism act:
> > > > >
> > > > >a.. An entire 501C3 organization or other
> organization, including
> its
> > > > >members, can have their assets seized for
> supporting bodily acts or
> > > > >international causes that the U.S. Secretary
> of State may deem
> > >terrorist
> > > > >activity. Political activities that were
> legal prior to S.1510 may
> > > > >"RETROACTIVELY" be deemed terrorist activity
> by U.S. Government.
> > > > >Participants and supporters may be charged
> with terrorist and other
> > > > >offenses.
> > > > >
> > > > >If you want to read this bill for yourself,
> go to
> > >http://Thomas.loc.gov,
> > > > >to the 107th Congress, and Senate Bill 1510.
> > > > >
> > > > >(2). S.1510 "RETROACTIVELY" abolishes the
> "Statue of Limitations"
> for
> > > > >many past offenses where no one was injured.
> After passage of
> S.1510,
> > > > >any past offense that can be broadly alleged
> to have put someone "at
> > > > >risk" may be used by federal and state
> prosecutors to charge a
> citizen
> > > > >with a terrorist act - even 30 years after
> the Statute of
> Limitations
> > > > >period had already passed. Government will
> have no difficulty
> > > > >manufacturing evidence to prosecute citizens
> once Constitutional
> > > > >safeguards against passing Retroactive Laws
> are abolished after
> passage
> > > > >of S.1510.
> > > > >
> > > > >(3) No "innocent owner defense" allowed
> against Asset Forfeiture
> when,
> > > > >after passage of S 1510, U.S. Government
> agencies will be able to
> seize
> > > > >assets of citizens, 501C3 and other
> organizations and their members
> > > > >without ever disclosing the evidence against
> their property.
> > > > >
> > > > >Government need only allege that disclosing
> such evidence may
> > >compromise
> > > > >National security and/or an ongoing
> investigation. S 1510 provides
> for
> > > > >paying "unnamed informants huge rewards"
> resulting from arrests and
> > > > >forfeited assets. It is hard to believe any
> organization or citizen
> > > > >could ever recover their assets once they
> are seized by a government
> > > > >agency in the name of National Security.
> That may include a
> citizen's
> > > > >home in which an informant secretly alleges
> someone said the wrong
> > > > >thing.
> > > > >
> > > > >(4) "D Below" is from the Senate Bill 1510.
> So much for trusting
> > > > >attorneys!
> > > > >"(d) UNDERCOVER ACTIVITIES- Notwithstanding
> any provision of State
> law,
> > > > >including disciplinary rules, statutes,
> regulations, constitutional
> > > > >provisions, or case law, a Government
> attorney may, for the purpose
> of
> > > > >enforcing Federal law, provide legal advice,
> authorization,
> > >concurrence,
> > > > >direction, or supervision on conducting
> undercover activities, and
> any
> > > > >attorney employed as an investigator or
> other law enforcement agent
> by
> > > > >the Department of Justice who is not
> authorized to represent the
> United
> > > > >States in criminal or civil law enforcement
> litigation or to
> supervise
> > > > >such proceedings may participate in such
> activities, even though
> such
> > > > >activities may require the use of deceit or
> misrepresentation, where
> > > > >such activities are consistent with Federal
> law.
> > > > >
> > > > >(e) ADMISSIBILITY OF EVIDENCE- No violation
> of any disciplinary,
> > > > >ethical, or professional conduct rule shall
> be construed to permit
> the
> > > > >exclusion of otherwise admissible evidence
> in any Federal criminal
> > > > >proceedings".
> > > > >
> > > > >This bill is similar to the one Adolf Hitler
> pushed through the
> > > > >Reichstag after the Reichstag fire in the
> early 1930's. German Jews,
> > > > >horrified by the chaos in Germany after the
> fire, supported Hitler's
> > > > >legislation - then found he could (and
> planned to) use it against
> them.
> > > > >
> > > > >This is worse legislation than the Sedition
> Laws of the 1790's,
> later
> > > > >declared unconstitutional and leading to the
> end of John Adams'
> > > > >presidency.
> > > > >
> > > > >Understand! Under the law as now written,
> you and anyone connected
> with
> > > > >any organization - 501(c)(3), church,
> Rotary, any organization - can
>
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