[Retros] one man PGs

roberto osorio osorio.arg at gmail.com
Wed May 25 12:12:33 EDT 2016

Hi Nicolas,

this is of course a matter of opinion.

personally, I would prefer to concentrate on the core of the record, i.e.,"
maximum one man moves", being the other side a partenair.

Since this forces a mini-massacre, I would say that the number of captures
(minimal) is the first complementary criterion, and homebased
pieces after that (this is as usual oriented to a very precise play where
the parternair minimizes the necessary resources).

I think that to add an additional non-thematic move at the end is weaker
than the above. But, I insist, it is a matter of opinion (on a very thin


2016-05-25 12:30 GMT-03:00 Nicolas Dupont <Nicolas.Dupont at univ-lille1.fr>:

>  1. Pd2-d4   Pb7-b6     2. Fc1-d2   Pb6-b5     3. Fd2-a5   Pb5-b4
>>  4. Cb1-d2   Pb4-b3     5. Ta1-b1   Pb3xa2     6. Pb2-b4   Pa2-a1=C
>>  7. Pb4-b5   Ca1-b3     8. Pb5-b6   Cb3-c5     9. Pb6-b7   Cc5-e4
>> 10. Pb7xa8=F Ce4-f6    11. Fa8-d5   Cf6-g4    12. Fd5-a2   Cg4xh2
>> 13. Pd4-d5   Ch2-g4    14. Th1-h4   Cg4-e3    15. Th4-d4   Ce3xd1
>> 16. Pf2-f4   Cd1-f2    17. Pg2-g4   Cf2-h3    18. Ff1-g2   Ch3xg1
>> 19. Fg2-e4   Cg1-f3    20. Re1-f2   Cf3-e5    21. Fe4-g6   Ce5-c4
>> 22. Pf4-f5   Cc4-b6    23. Rf2-e3   Cb6-a8
> This is indeed a new improvement, thanks Roberto.
> 24.Rb6 does not improve the record, since this is 23 "one man" moves by
>> black (its is C+ anyway after 24.Rb6).
> It depends whether the record to establish is the max of moves from the
> thematic side, or the max length of the game. I prefer the second option,
> as it asks for some more imagination to be able to add a last half-move
> from the non-thematic side.
> Suppose there is a new improvement in 23.0 with, say, one more homebased
> piece but impossibility to add a last half-move. In that case I would think
> the record still belongs to the 23.5 game, don't you?
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