[Retros] More Dupont-"originals"

[Otto Janko]

>> The codex is pretty clear nowadays:



> [22] Including the Internet and electronic mailing lists, but 

> not e-mail.


The intention is clear, but the wording is insufficient. [22] should apply
to *public* mailing lists only, not to private mailing lists. There is
absolutely no difference between sending a mail to 20 recipients and sending
a mail to a private mailing list containung the same 20 addresses.

A public mailing list is a mailing list to which everyone can subscribe
(like the RML), a private mailing list is one which is maintained manually
by someone.

Another issue: In principle I could copy the mail addresses of all members
of the RML to the "TO" field of a mail. This mail would reach all RML
members, but it's *technically* NOT sent via a mailing list and therefore no
publication?!

~ÔttÔ~
 


> -----Original Message-----

> From: retros-bounces at janko.at 

> [mailto:retros-bounces at janko.at] On Behalf Of Joost de Heer

> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:10 PM

> To: The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List

> Subject: Re: [Retros] More Dupont-"originals"

> 

> On Fri, June 21, 2013 16:01, Nicolas Dupont wrote:

> > Dear retro friends,

> >

> >> IT IS A SAD THING, BUT I HAVE NOW FOUND THAT TWO

> >> OTHER PROBLEMS BY NICOLAS DUPONT FROM THE NEW FIDE-ALBUM 2004-2006

> >> HAVE ALSO BEEN PUBLISHED SOMEWHERE ELSE AS ORIGINALS:H 52: 

> NOT (ONLY)

> >> FRANCE-ECHCES 2004, BUT ALSO: QUARTZ 2004, 3RD PRIZE 

> (P1067379);H 58:

> >> NOT (ONLY) FRANCE-ECHECS 2005, BUT ALSO: PROBLEEMBLAD 2005,

> >> COMMENDATION (SEE P1068036, BUT THE BQ HAS TO BE AT E8, 

> NOT AT H8; CF.

> >> THE AWARD IN PROBLEEMBLAD 2009, P. 179).

> >

> >  From the Codex, this is the (retro) editor of a given magazine who

> > has to decide if a given entry is original or not.

> 

> The codex is pretty clear nowadays:

> 

> Article 20 - Definition of Publication

> 

> (1) Publication of a chess composition consists of 

> communicating it to the

> public, whether in permanent form (e.g. a document or a 

> recording medium)

> or transient form (e.g. on a demonstration board or through 

> an electronic

> medium).

> 

> (2) For the purposes of this Article, "communicating to the 

> public" means

> enabling an unrestricted number of people to have the opportunity of

> access to a chess composition by

> 

>     (a) presenting it in permanent form, or

>     (b) showing or using it in a lecture or solving 

> tournament which falls

> within the categories listed in Annex I, or

>     (c) showing it in transient form through a generally 

> accessible medium

> (e.g. an electronic network). [22].

> 

> [22] Including the Internet and electronic mailing lists, but 

> not e-mail.

> 

> France-echecs.com is a publicly accessible medium, so posting 

> a diagram

> there consists of publication. How many people will see it there is

> irrelevant.

> 

> I don't know if in 2004 this article was present, so at that 

> time there

> may not have been a double publication.

> 

> Joost

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