[W126 Coupe] M1991 560 SEC value chart

[Jay Febish]

My '91 was also #702. It was called Smoke Silver. It also had the Creme Beige interior.
On Nov 27, 2011, at 10:34 AM, joe chiappinelli wrote:

Kiddinsmore,

Thanks for the info and quick reply. Nice to see someone who knows the correct name for the int/ext colors of their car. I've seen 702 called everything from gold to beige. Your entry makes 137, 1991 560 SECs in my database. Attached is a chart displaying the values. If my chart is accurate, an "average" 1991 with 120,000 lists for just north of $10,000. Your car would appear to have qualities that put it well above average and your estimate of value appears very accurate. There are a couple of cars with well over 120k with asking prices around $20,000. These must be truly exceptional cars or unrealistic asking prices.

Regards,
J.Chip

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:11 AM, <kddinsmore at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Joe the vin# wdbca45e1ma599124 the color is 702 smoke silver int. Is 265 creme beige w/ 471 option asr I have the window sticker It came from Foreign Motors West in Natick Ma. I live 2 towns over. It has 120k w/ no accidents 2 nd owner I would value it at $13-15k It won germanfest 2011 1st place. Very nice car!!

joe chiappinelli <joe.chiappinelli at gmail.com> wrote:


>Kiddinsmore,

>

>If you would care to share your VIN #, int& ext color, location and the

>price you would ask IF you were to put it up for sale, I'll add you to my

>value tracking database.

>

>J.Chip

>

>On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 1:34 PM, <kddinsmore at yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>> I do have 1991 w/ 120k no rust no wrecks Im the 2nd owner!!!!!

>>

>> Gerry Van Zandt <gerryvz at me.com> wrote:

>>

>> >See conversation below….

>> >

>> >Cheers,

>> >Gerry

>> >

>> >

>> >On Nov 26, 2011, at 11:15 AM, J.Chip wrote:

>> >

>> >>

>> >> I've often been somewhat confused by the production numbers I've seen

>> >> listed from various sources. While I'm fairly confident that the 2,138

>> >> figure for 1991 is accurate, I'm not sure if the number represents

>> >> worldwide production or just North American. If North American, how many

>> >> were built solely for the US market? And the number produced may not

>> >> accurately reflect the number sold. Your source seems to indicate 676 of

>> >> the 2,138 produced were sold in the US. A 2007 posting on Benzworld (

>> >>

>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1333987-production-numbers-560-sec.html

>> )

>> >> contains a document which appears to indicate 1,806 model year 1991 SECs

>> >> were sold in the US market. I guess I remain confused.

>> >

>> >

>> >It's definitive that 2,138 SECs were produced worldwide for 1991 and ~676

>> were US market imports.

>> >

>> >The 1,806 US production number for 1991 models from Benzworld is

>> definitely erroneous.  I can definitely tell you that MB would not have

>> imported 84.45% of all SECs produced that year to the US market.  There was

>> still quite a large market for other countries (Germany among them) that

>> would have soaked up far more than 15% of that year's overall production.

>>  The cars were somewhat in demand as it was the last year of the model, and

>> you can see this in the figures I posted, whereby more than 500 SECs were

>> actually sold in calendar year 1992 !!

>> >

>> >BTW the second set of data is from the SL Market Letter.  Generally John

>> Olson does his homework and the figures are close enough to the first set I

>> have (which were independently obtained) that I put good trust in Olson's

>> data.

>> >

>> >And this leads to another problem I have with Benzworld.org. Quite a bit

>> of the "information" that is found there is false and/or erroneous. Often

>> times it's someone talking out of their a$$ with no proof to back up their

>> claims. Just sayin'.   IMHO that forum has very very little credibility

>> these days, and over the past few years many of the more knowledgeable

>> folks have either left on their own discretion or have been banned for

>> calling out the BS posted by others.  [ As you can tell I have strong

>> opinions about Benzworld and those who post crap information there as

>> Gospel. ]

>> >

>> >

>> >>

>> >> Back to my value question. Let's say only 676 WERE sold in the US in

>> 1991.

>> >> I have documented 137 of those 676 by VIN # in my database. Let's also

>> say

>> >> that the examples out there that have the best chance of reaching some

>> >> level of collector status would need to be low mileage cars in

>> excellent,

>> >> original condition. Let's further say that such cars would need to have

>> >> 100,000 miles or less since high mileage examples would be more likely

>> to

>> >> need some work and these cars would be expensive to restore to

>> >> "collectible" condition.  Of the 137 currently in my database, only 40,

>> or

>> >> 29% have less than 100,000 miles. If my database is a fair

>> representation,

>> >> that would mean that there are less that 200 1991 560 SECs remaining

>> with

>> >> the potential to reach collectible status. Of course this is all very

>> >> unscientific but 200 is a small enough figure to drive prices up for

>> >> collectors seeking a prime example of the last and best model year for

>> >> these coupes.

>> >>

>> >

>> >No arguments in general with what you are saying. It's very similar to

>> the type of reasoning have used for the 500E market.  In the absence of

>> hard data you have to keep things general, but the data you have collected

>> I think can definitely lead to some reasonable conclusions.  There is no

>> question that prices for the best cars (Condition 1 and 2) are headed

>> upward -- this has always been a prime tenet of John Olson with regard to

>> his philosophy on collectables (i.e. only go for 1 and 2 cars, and forget

>> the rest as it's prohibitive to restore them).

>> >

>> >The only comment I'd have is that mileage is a general/directional

>> indicator of condition, but not always true. We've all seen SECs with 75K

>> miles on them that are in far worse condition than those with 200K on them.

>>  That's certainly more the exception than the rule, so your assumptions are

>> the correct path to proceed.

>> >

>> >You can see a PDF copy of the SL Market Letter article on SECs (including

>> price guide) here:

>> >

>> >

>> http://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?787-SL-Market-Letter-article-on-C126-SECs

>> >

>> >

>> >> BTW...I believe it was last year sometime that the Mercedes Claasic

>> Center

>> >> officially recognized the 126 coupe as a "young classic", a distinction

>> >> indicating future collectible status.

>> >

>> >That is correct. I have posted MB's press documents pertaining to this in

>> the SEC sub-board on my 500E site.  MB's "Young Classic" designation though

>> is something they bestow on platforms in general once they reach a certain

>> age.  I've also seen 126 sedan, 201, 123 and 124s designated "Young

>> Classic" status, yet very very few models from those chassis are

>> collectable.

>> >

>> >http://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?682-The-126-coupe

>> >

>> >

>> >Here's an example where they designated the W124 chassis as a "Young

>> Classic":

>> >

>> >

>> http://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?427-Daimler-declares-W124-an-official-quot-Young-Classic-quot

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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