[W126 Coupe] "Whirring" noise in the engine

[Michael Ramay]

I just bought a case of Dex/Merc from Sam's Club. Put some Lucas additive
into the tranny so I'll see if it minimizes my leak(s).

Thanks for the advise!
Mike

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Jason Mavris <mavris2 at comcast.net> wrote:


>  Just and FYI .....Wal-Mart, Supertech transmission fluid Dextron / mercon

> III pretty cheap. I've been using it for several years now in many older

> cars that called for that fluid. No issue with transmissions on the

> supertech brand of fluid.  Some say its Exxon brand, pensoil brand or warn

> oil company.  All I know is when the GM scans the bottle with the inventory

> gun it shows up Exxon  whatever that's worth. It has all the proper service

> rating for what is required. Works for me. Just though I would pass it

> along.

>

>

> Jason

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Michael Ramay <mike.ramay at gmail.com>

> *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:53 AM

> *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] "Whirring" noise in the engine

>

> Now you tell me - after Sam's Club finally got D/M in by the case again and

> I just bought one. :-(

>

> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Jay Hirsch <J.Hirsch at mac.com> wrote:

>

>> Type  F can be used where Dexron/Mercon  is called for but you cannot use

>> Dexron/Mercon  where  Type F is called for.

>>

>>   On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:03 PM, Michael Ramay wrote:

>>

>>   "Type F" is different from Dexron/Mercon III? I'll get me some Lucas

>> additive tomorrow to see what transpires.

>>

>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Jay Hirsch <J.Hirsch at mac.com> wrote:

>>

>>> Cannot  hurt to use Type F  i all transmissons

>>>

>>> Friend of mine who rebuilds tranny's  and   owns three MBs  use's Type F

>>> in all his rebuilds  and  has done so for  twenty five years

>>> keep  sleighin

>>> Jay H

>>>

>>>  On Feb 1, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Jonathan Hodgman wrote:

>>>

>>> worn reverse and front pump cheesing out are two very different

>>> problems..  your reverse clutches were/are weak, lucas has an additive

>>> package that helps make them Grab, as well as thickening the fluid which ups

>>> the pressure on the band/clutch pack.

>>>

>>> You can buy a good bit of time w/ lucas and worn clutches.  Switching to

>>> Type F helps as well.

>>>

>>> Jonathan

>>>

>>> On 2/1/2011 6:42 PM, mavris2 wrote:

>>>

>>> Not in anyway would i promote this.... But if worse came to worse and it

>>> turns out trans pump. I would try some lucas tranny additive. A few years

>>> ago my tranny would lung into reverse. Long story short 2 different shops

>>> said needs tranny. I put the lucas in and the reverse problem completly went

>>> away. Maybe it will help the seals in the pump if thats where its coming

>>> from?

>>>

>>> Jason

>>>

>>> ------------------------------

>>> From: Jonathan Hodgman <jhodgman at gmail.com> <jhodgman at gmail.com>

>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:58 PM

>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com><mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] "Whirring" noise in the engine

>>>

>>> if it's from the trans only thing that would whir would be the front

>>> pump....NG :(

>>>

>>>

>>> On 2/1/2011 4:47 PM, Michael Ramay wrote:

>>>

>>> I did the long screwdriver to the ear trick and it, unfortunately, ain't

>>> the pump. Darn. Good idea though.

>>>

>>> What about something in the front of the tranny??

>>>

>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Jonathan Hodgman <jhodgman at gmail.com>wrote:

>>>

>>>> they don't have to leak to make noise;-)

>>>>

>>>> On jack's SEC his pump made noise when it was cold.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On 2/1/2011 4:35 PM, Michael Ramay wrote:

>>>>

>>>>  Thought about that too and took mine apart (it was fine), then put in

>>>> a new set of viton o-rings. It "should" be good for ten more years.

>>>>

>>>> Good ideas, but not the problem one yet!!

>>>> Mike

>>>>

>>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Jonathan Hodgman <jhodgman at gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> I've seen the SLS pumps make a noise that's hard to locate..

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On 2/1/2011 9:22 AM, Michael Ramay wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>  It's not turning and it's unplugged.

>>>>>

>>>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Is your air  pump unplugged?  That's what mine sounded like till I

>>>>>> unplugged it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Markus

>>>>>>

>>>>>>  On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Michael Ramay <mike.ramay at gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>  My '87 560SEL makes a "whirring" noise when it's first started.

>>>>>>> Sounds almost like a bad bearing in the alternator and loud enough that my

>>>>>>> wife is commenting on it but in a mile or so it goes away.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> - I removed all the V-belts on the front of the motor, still have the

>>>>>>> noise.

>>>>>>> - Since it sounds like it's coming from the passenger side of the

>>>>>>> engine up high, I removed that valve cover then ran the engine - it was

>>>>>>> louder.

>>>>>>> - Put in a new timing chain and new guides. !@#$%^&* - still have the

>>>>>>> noise but the car has noticeably more power.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> It REALLY needed the guides since one was broken in two and a 3" long

>>>>>>> piece is missing plus another had the hole for the retention pin wallowed

>>>>>>> out.  I looked very carefully down the chain pathway during the

>>>>>>> installations but no sign of the piece.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Will removal of the oil pan allow me to see much of the lower timing

>>>>>>> chain guide area? If the missing chain guide is jammed in there and rubbing

>>>>>>> on the rotating bits, why would the noise diminish in a minute or so of

>>>>>>> operation?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Suggestions??

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>> Mike

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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