[W126 Coupe] Fwd: So, I need a M117.968 Block andPistons - www.mercedesengines.netopinions?

[Henric]

> Not sure what general impression of MM is but it's a three man  

> outfit, very accessible.   Some of their machine work is outsourced  

> to individuals of equal experience but all of the building is in  

> house.  Though Mike at Metrics has two assistants, his name goes on  

> every motor built.

>

> Re one man, one engine... coincidently they currently have one man's  

> motor on the bench to determine why it detonated.  Their report will  

> be used by Mercedes Benz NA to determine the fate of that man. ;)

>

> Lastly, they turn out product far exceeding "decent."  Their clients  

> include concourse winning MB owners down to humble little M117  

> owners as myself.

>

> Good luck with your transplant regardless of choice.

>

> -h

>

> On Nov 6, 2010, at 9:17 AM, jhodgman at gmail.com wrote:

>

>> The fellow who does my machining and when things are busy, builds  

>> my short blocks has been specializing in Mercedes engines for 35  

>> years.  Every Mercedes dealer in the tri state area uses him  

>> exclusively.

>>

>> He is a one man outfit.  A little like another subsidiary of mb  

>> that I know...one man one engine.  You deal directly with the  

>> person who is doing the work.  I like that.

>>

>> I have encountered two metric rebuilt engines...so I can only  

>> comment on those engines.  I'm sure they have turned out a decent  

>> product or they wouldn't still be in business.  That said, I don't  

>> see me utilizing their services anytime soon.

>>

>> Jonathan

>>

>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

>>

>> ----- Reply message -----

>> From: "Henric" <48hp at earthlink.net>

>> Date: Sat, Nov 6, 2010 12:11 pm

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] So, I need a M117.968 Block andPistons	-	www.mercedesengines.netopinions 

>> ?

>> To: "Bruce Mendel" <brucem105 at comcast.net>, "Mercedes Coupes  

>> Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>

>> Bruce,

>>

>> Thanks for chiming in.  No, I do not work for Metrics. Yes, I have

>> worked with them on several projects, directly and indirectly for  

>> over

>> a year now.  Top notch, incredibly fluent and knowledgeable of just

>> about every post-war MB motor produced.  Their facility is nothing  

>> but

>> engines, top to bottom, period.  That is my point.

>>

>> The manner in which the examples were phrased was loaded, I'm sorry.

>>

>> -h

>>

>> On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Bruce Mendel wrote:

>>

>> > Henric, do you work for Metric? Or do you have personal experience

>> > with their engine rebuilds? If the former, reciting their marketing

>> > is not useful for people on the list considering working with them.

>> > If the latter, please list your experience(s), as that would be

>> > valuable information to share.

>> >

>> > Jonathan did not disparage the company, he listed specific examples

>> > of problems he experienced with engines rebuilt by Metric. That is

>> > very valuable information.

>> >

>> > It does not make them a terrible company, but it does add some data

>> > points for someone shopping to consider.

>> >

>> > Bruce

>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henric" <48hp at earthlink.net>

>> > To: <jhodgman at gmail.com>; "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>> > >

>> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:29 AM

>> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] So, I need a M117.968 Block andPistons  

>> - www.mercedesengines.netopinions

>> > ?

>> >

>> >

>> >> Metric Motors is one of the most highly qualified, refined  

>> Mercedes

>> >> Benz engine rebuilders in the country, hands down. Day in, day out

>> >> they only build one thing, the very best MB engines, nothing less.

>> >> Their tolerances exceed that of Mercedes Benz.  MB dealers, the

>> >> military and private sectors from across the country send their

>> >> motors to Metric for rebuilding.

>> >>

>> >> So please use caution when  comparing a  service facility to a

>> >> premiere Mercedes only engine rebuilder.

>> >>

>> >> Kind Regards,

>> >> Henric

>> >>

>> >> Sent from my iPhone

>> >>

>> >> On Nov 6, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Jonathan Hodgman

>> >> <blueridgemb at gmail.com> wrote:

>> >>

>> >>> Really?  The factory doesn't rebuild M117's anymore, hasn't for

>> >>> years.

>> >>>

>> >>> And even @ their cost, all the parts and machining

>> >>> required...there is no way they could rebuild the whole engine

>> >>> that cheaply.  We're just finishing up the 3rd 5.6 in the last

>> >>> couple of months and a dead on Stock rebuild (albeit blueprinted)

>> >>> is about 2X as much.

>> >>>

>> >>> My experience w/ Metric thus far, one engine ate a cam in about

>> >>> 30K (m117) the other ate a piston (OM617).  They were also

>> >>> disappointing in the engine that ate said cam was supposed to  

>> be a

>> >>> 300HP/ECE varient, but they sent it over w/ nothing more then HC

>> >>> pistons and it barely made 10hp more then my US engine set up

>> >>> similarly!  Thanks but no thanks :-/

>> >>>

>> >>> Shame I just used my last 117.968 bottom end for an AMG 190

>> >>> widebody project that we have here.

>> >>>

>> >>> Jonathan

>> >>>

>> >>> On 11/6/2010 9:38 AM, Henry Viveiros wrote:

>> >>>> The Mercedes dealership in Grants Pass, OR told me that a  

>> factory

>> >>>> rebuilt

>> >>>> engine for my 1991 560 SEC would cost about $5,000.

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

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>> >>>

>> >>> --

>> >>> Jonathan Hodgman

>> >>> Blue Ridge Mercedes/AMG East

>> >>> http://www.blueridgemb.com

>> >>> Offering Enthusiast Service, Restoration and Tuning.

>> >>> (404)805-1357

>> >>> 96 S600 Euro

>> >>> 94 E420 (Parts)

>> >>> 93 300SE

>> >>> 93 500E (Parts)

>> >>> 91 E300D 2.5

>> >>> 91 560SEC ECE

>> >>> 91 500SL Jap Spec

>> >>> 91 560SEC 226/271

>> >>> 90 300SL

>> >>> 88 300E AMG

>> >>> 89 190E 2.6 5sp

>> >>> 89 300TE

>> >>> 88 560SEC AMG Euro ECE (Parts)

>> >>> 89 560SEC AMG 6.0L SOHC Solid Lifter

>> >>> 87 AMG Hammer Wagon 6.0L 32V

>> >>> 87 AMG Hammer 6.0L 32V

>> >>> 86 560SEL AMG 6.0L 32V

>> >>> 84 300CD 304K and still going!

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