[W126 Coupe] Water4Gas.

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Fri Mar 19 22:15:57 EDT 2010


I had a friend of mine fiddle with it on behalf of a business guy that
wanted to sell these during the $4 /gallon gas days. He mentioned something
about leaning out the engine and backing out the O2 sensors but he never got
the cars to run right.

Does this use electrolysis to create the hydrogen? If so, i'm not sure how
much hydrogen can be created see some real benefit.

Propane is a hugely successful fuel Europe and unlike CNG, you can really
run a car on propane as a dual fuel car. There are tanks that are designed
to fit in the spare wheel well and while you wont gain MPG, you should be
able to greatly reduce your fuel costs.


On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Jonathan Hodgman <blueridgemb at gmail.com>wrote:


> I agree, in and of itself trying to produce enough hydrogen to run your

> car on will never work.. But I think as a catalyst there may be some merit

> towards increasing the efficiency of an IC gas engine.such that a net gain

> can be had.

>

> Wish I had time to fiddle about with it, but I have more pressing projects

> @ the moment :-P

>

> Jonathan

>

> John Howard wrote:

>

> I’ve looked into hydrogen (H) and this HHO generator (uses both the

> hydrogen and oxygen produced from separating water atoms (H2O)). Using

> electricity generated by the car to produce H or HHO for itself consumes

> more energy from the car than it produces in burning the H or HHO gas

> produced. If the generation process were 100% efficient, the absolute,

> unattainable best you could expect is to break even (energy to produce H or

> HHO would equal the energy returned when you burn it). HOWEVER, no such

> generation process available today is near 100% efficient, plus the engine

> is less than 30% efficient in turning fuel into power to the wheels. Using

> H or HHO generated by the car that consumes it is a net loss of power, not a

> gain. Do some web searching about this, particularly about HHO, sometimes

> referred to as “Brown’s gas”. Here’s a sample link to info about this

> http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to/4310717.html.

>

>

>

> John

>

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> *From:* mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [

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> Behalf Of *Carl Hansen

> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:55 PM

> *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> *Subject:* [W126 Coupe] Water4Gas.

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>

>

> I've been in touch with these guys for quite some time and studied the

> concept.

>

> I am actually quite fascinated about it.

>

>

>

> I just wondered if anyone have tried it. It's very tempting.

>

> Like one of the members mentioned it can go with a big bang but this is

> hydrogen *"on demand"* and not something you pump in to your car under

> high pressure.

>

> It is actually produced as the ignition is turned on and when the engine

> starts the hydrogen is sucked into the intake by the engine vacuum. When the

> engine is turned off hydrogen is no longer present. The theory behind it is

> that it causes the gasoline to burn more efficiently causing a cleaner

> running engine, cleaner exhaust and as much as 50% better fuel mileage.

>

>

>

> Check it out for yourself and please let me know what you think. I like to

> hear from Jonathan for one what he thinks.

>

>

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>

> Carl Hansen

>

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