[W126 Coupe] 560 SEL Cuts out...Don't know why

[Larry Martin]

RE: drhpat at yahoo.com

Most of the problems of "mysterious death" of the engine (won't
start...or just "dies") of Mercedes Models in the era you have is due to
a bad "Starter Relay", inside the relay compartment. I strongly
recommend you replace it. Temporarily you can get a "fix" by banging on
the relay (not too hard!) and the engine will start immediately. The
other problem is the fuel pump is hung up and not starting and therefore
is not pumping. If you have not replaced EITHER of these...I strongly
recommend you do so.

Regards,
Larry Martin - 1984 Mercedes 500SEC

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   3. Re: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32 (Henry Viveiros)
   4. E420 request Non-coupe content (Richard Hesek)
   5. I am trying to restore my 1990 SEC where can I get in
      excellent or new? (Steve Ferngren)
   6. Re: I am trying to restore my 1990 SEC where can I get in
      excellent or new? (Markus Meyer)
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      excellent or new? (Jonathan Hodgman)
   8. Re: E420 request Non-coupe content (Jonathan Hodgman)
   9. Anti Freeze Change Dilemma (Michael de Holl)
  10. Re: Anti Freeze Change Dilemma (Markus Meyer)
  11. Re: Anti Freeze Change Dilemma (Jonathan Hodgman)
  12. Re: Test (Attila)
  13. Re: Anti Freeze Change Dilemma (Richard & Nancy Diefenbach)
  14. FW:  Anti Freeze Change Dilemma (Markus Meyer)
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:27 -0400
From: drhpat at aol.com
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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Hi, I have a problem, need your brains.
My 560SEL is currently running better than ever after MB mechanic took
my gas tank out relined the interior replaced everything we could think
of in the fuel system. BUT now twice (this AM driving to work the 2nd)
when I drive it, it will cut out, acts like no fuel gets to it.  When
spray "starting fluid in Fuel Dist. and it trys to start.  BUT right
before the TOW TRUCK chains are about to be attached it will start run
great home again.  As if it needs to cool off for an hour. 3 times,
different days I have let it run for 30 minutes with no problems.   No
water temperature  problems.  HELP. Cannot tell if fuel pumps are making
noise due to traffic noise...............

Dr H
87' 560SEL
91' 560SEC
87' 560SEC


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rom: "RONNY GEENEN" <ronny.geenen at verizon.net>
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What are the difference between all those bumpers.?
Ronny
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Markus Meyer 
 To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers

 Well, you can try and find gen2 euro bumpers (good luck, hard to find,
and 
ven if you do, quite expensive - there's a set on ebay right now for
over $800 
lus shipping and they need work), or you can go with gen1 euro bumpers,
or get 
MG, Lorinser, etc like I have on mine.  In general, these are getting
harder 
nd harder to find, especially with non-rusted or dinged chrome.
  Markus
  
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 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:57:20 -0700
 From: coloradocroat at yahoo.com
 To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
 Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers

 Markus,

 No not necisarrily "Period Correct"  The car is not going to be stock
in look 
r anything.  The interior will be from my 91 and customized passed that
so, 
ore of what I want in an 85 SEC not really what the engineers may have
thought 
f!

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 From: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at hotmail.com>
 To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
 Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 9:51:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers
  David,
  
 I assume you want to stay "period correct" and get gen1 euro bumpers,
since 
our 500 is a gen1 model?  If so, I have a set of Lorinser euro bumpers
that are 
vailable.  For standard euro gen1 bumpers, you can check ebay, benzworld
or 
eachparts classifieds, they pop up there from time to time.
  Markus 
  ------
  Gang,
  I have been off the list for a while, but still monitoring until I got

nsubscribed! I am starting to get my 85 500SEC project going again. It
has sat 
n my garage for the past 3 years with the interior out of it and the
interior 
f my crashed 91 560SEC in the basement! 
  Does anybody know a good place to get a a decent pair of Euro Bumpers?
They 
on't have to be in perfect condition, just no cracks or breaks. Also
what 
hould I expect to pay for a pair? Of bumpers that is.
  Thanks,
  David
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rom: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at hotmail.com>
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onny,

ots of differences.  The euro gen1 are narrower than the euro gen2, and
on the 
ear the gen1 dips "in" faster than the gen2, which means the muffler and
tire 
ell are seen more easily.  Most asthetics, but still, there are
differences.  
verall, the euro bumpers are slimmer than the US bumpers, which were the
same 
cross all the 126 models years, no US gen1 or gen2.  Again, mostly
asthetics, 
ut attachment points are different, the US bumpers have "shocks" that
attach 
hat were supposed to help in 5mph or less accidents.

orinser, AMG, Zender, etc are all tuners that added lips/spoilers to the

xisting bumpers to bring them even lower to the ground.  Here is a good
link 
ith pictures:

ttp://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=257118&highlight=eur
o+bumpers
Markus Meyer 
84-919-9762 
ww.meyerprobateproperties.com



rom: ronny.geenen at verizon.net
o: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
ate: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:36:23 -0700
ubject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers


hat are the difference between all those bumpers.?

onny
----- Original Message ----- 
rom: Markus Meyer 
o: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com 
ent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:01 AM
ubject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers
Well, you can try and find gen2 euro bumpers (good luck, hard to find,
and even 
f you do, quite expensive - there's a set on ebay right now for over
$800 plus 
hipping and they need work), or you can go with gen1 euro bumpers, or
get AMG, 
orinser, etc like I have on mine.  In general, these are getting harder
and 
arder to find, especially with non-rusted or dinged chrome. Markus


ate: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:57:20 -0700
rom: coloradocroat at yahoo.com
o: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
ubject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers


Markus,

o not necisarrily "Period Correct"  The car is not going to be stock in
look or 
nything.  The interior will be from my 91 and customized passed that so,
more 
f what I want in an 85 SEC not really what the engineers may have
thought of!


rom: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at hotmail.com>
o: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
ent: Tue, October 20, 2009 9:51:24 AM
ubject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers

David,

 assume you want to stay "period correct" and get gen1 euro bumpers,
since your 
00 is a gen1 model?  If so, I have a set of Lorinser euro bumpers that
are 
vailable.  For standard euro gen1 bumpers, you can check ebay, benzworld
or 
eachparts classifieds, they pop up there from time to time. Markus 
------

ang,
I have been off the list for a while, but still monitoring until I got 
nsubscribed! I am starting to get my 85 500SEC project going again. It
has sat 
n my garage for the past 3 years with the interior out of it and the
interior 
f my crashed 91 560SEC in the basement! 
Does anybody know a good place to get a a decent pair of Euro Bumpers?
They 
on't have to be in perfect condition, just no cracks or breaks. Also
what 
hould I expect to pay for a pair? Of bumpers that is.
Thanks,
David
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Actually, it is coming along nicely.  The main items are the rear window
install and the trunk-lid.  It should be completed 
by the end of December.  I changed the color from burgundy
to 'fuck-you-officer' red (I mean it's red!!!).  I have already torn-up
the parking lot where I keep it.  It's a beast with the tri-ys and
straight through exhaust.  I should be pushing 300hp after some fine
tuning.  In the meantime I purchased an '84, 
(genuine) white-on-white 500 SEC.  Real AMG all around, including the
camshafts, high compression, etc.  Too many projects.  Ciao.
  _____  
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
n Behalf Of David Fatovic
ent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:59 AM
o: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
ubject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test
 
Thanks Attila.  Hey by the way is your SEC still in pieces?
 
  _____  
From: Attila <attila13 at bellsouth.net>
o: RONNY GEENEN <ronny.geenen at verizon.net>; Mercedes Coupes Mailing
Lists mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
ent: Tue, October 20, 2009 9:19:40 PM
ubject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test

Good work !!!   Should last forever.
 
  _____  
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
n Behalf Of RONNY GEENEN
ent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:43 AM
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ubject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test
 
Attila,
 
I followed your advice. First the little bumpers had a different length
and he side I had most problems to close was much higher than the other.
I tarted to lower this to the same height as the other bumper. Now it
closes uch easier but the hood is now much more lower than the other
side. I started placing washers between the hood and the locking device
and I ound out I needed 3 washers under the bolts. I had also to place
two ashers on the other side and everything works fine. By the way the
locking evice that did not gave me problems had a metal plate in between
to raise he lock. I took that out.
 
Thank you for the help.
Ronny
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From: Attila <mailto:attila13 at bellsouth.net>  
To: 'RONNY <mailto:ronny.geenen at verizon.net>  GEENEN' ; 'Mercedes
mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>  Coupes Mailing Lists' 
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test
 
Yes. The mechanism is identical.  You have the same issue
I had.  If the hood is lower than the fender, simply place washers under
the 'hood catch' until the hood is exactly lined-up with fender (when
closed).  The spring will automatically raise the hood to its maximum
level.  But, you need to look at both sides.  Don't just align one side
perfect, without looking at the other.  Save some money.  You can easily
do this yourself. It's a 10mm nut.  Hope this helps.
 

 _____  

rom: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
n Behalf Of RONNY GEENEN
ent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:14 PM
o: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
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Attila,
I managed to get the hood in the lock, but then the hood is a little
lower han the fender. I also went back to my mechanic and let him read
your comments. He nderstands your information, but he said the problem
is the lock, because t is not holding the hood. Do you know if the lock
from the sel is the same as from an sec? Ronny
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From: Attila <mailto:attila13 at bellsouth.net>  
To: 'RONNY <mailto:ronny.geenen at verizon.net>  GEENEN' ; 'Mercedes
mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>  Coupes Mailing Lists' 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test
 
Ronny.  No, you don't.  Save yourself alot grief.  Back-off
the little rubber bumpers which keep the hood from going
too low, when you shut it.  In fact, just remove these, because this is
only for people who slam their hoods.  Next, see if the 
side of the hood aligns with the fender (both sides).  If your 
driver's side is too low (as you indicate), place washers between the
hood and the locking mechanism (hinge).  Do not use the spacers some
SECs come with.  They hold rust.  Just vary the thickness of the
washers, depending on how much you are off. You will see what I mean,
once you begin to play with the latch (hinge).  It's more easy and
simple than my narrative.  Once 
you have adjusted it properly, you will not need to push the hood down
any more than a gentle nudge to close it.  The spring in the 
latch prevents the hood from 'sitting' too low, so you never need the
rubber bumpers.  Hope this makes sense.  I just did this on my '89.
 
 

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rom: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
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n Behalf Of RONNY GEENEN
ent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:38 PM
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ubject: [W126 Coupe] Test
 
I need a locking device for the engine hood, the one on the drivers
side. he hood from my 1987 560 sec will only falls in the lock when I
use a lot f power down worth. Does somebody has one available?
 
Ronny
lendora , Ca 91740
987 560 SEC
984 300 SD
 

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Hey Attila,
Do you need a trunk cover?
Corky Stillwell


t 07:26 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote:
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:07:32 -0400
From: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32
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Dr. H,

 

I don't know how mechanically inclined you are, but....next time this
happens, pull out the fuel pump relay located between the two firewalls,
its the black one that says FPR and a bunch of numbers on it.  The one
next to is says Klima and is your klima relay, its NOT that one, and its
not the red one with plastic top which is the OVP relay.  Pull out the
FPR, and take a 12 gauge piece of wire, and stick one end into the hole
marked #x, the other end in the hole marked #y.  Then see if the car
restarts, if so, the FPR is the problem.

 

I can't remember what x and y should be right now, its either 6 and 7,
or 7 and 8.  Its the two opposite each other, there are 2 rows of 6 pins
I think.  One of the numbers is in one row the other is in the second
row, that's what I mean by opposite each other.

Markus Meyer 
484-919-9762 
www.meyerprobateproperties.com


 


To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:27 -0400
From: drhpat at aol.com
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32


Hi, I have a problem, need your brains.
My 560SEL is currently running better than ever after MB mechanic took
my gas tank out relined the interior replaced everything we could think
of in the fuel system. BUT now twice (this AM driving to work the 2nd)
when I drive it, it will cut out, acts like no fuel gets to it.  When
spray "starting fluid in Fuel Dist. and it trys to start.  BUT right
before the TOW TRUCK chains are about to be attached it will start run
great home again.  As if it needs to cool off for an hour. 3 times,
different days I have let it run for 30 minutes with no problems.   No
water temperature  problems.  HELP. Cannot tell if fuel pumps are making
noise due to traffic noise...............
 
Dr H
87' 560SEL
91' 560SEC
87' 560SEC


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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:36:23 -0700
From: "RONNY GEENEN" <ronny.geenen at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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What are the difference between all those bumpers.?

Ronny
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Markus Meyer 
  To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers


  Well, you can try and find gen2 euro bumpers (good luck, hard to find,
and 
even if you do, quite expensive - there's a set on ebay right now for
over $800 
plus shipping and they need work), or you can go with gen1 euro bumpers,
or get 
AMG, Lorinser, etc like I have on mine.  In general, these are getting
harder 
and harder to find, especially with non-rusted or dinged chrome.

  Markus
   

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  Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:57:20 -0700
  From: coloradocroat at yahoo.com
  To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
  Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers


  Markus,


  No not necisarrily "Period Correct"  The car is not going to be stock
in look 
or anything.  The interior will be from my 91 and customized passed that
so, 
more of what I want in an 85 SEC not really what the engineers may have
thought 
of!



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------
  From: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at hotmail.com>
  To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
  Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 9:51:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers

  David,
   
  I assume you want to stay "period correct" and get gen1 euro bumpers,
since 
your 500 is a gen1 model?  If so, I have a set of Lorinser euro bumpers
that are 
available.  For standard euro gen1 bumpers, you can check ebay,
benzworld or 
peachparts classifieds, they pop up there from time to time.

  Markus 

  ------

  Gang,

  I have been off the list for a while, but still monitoring until I got

unsubscribed! I am starting to get my 85 500SEC project going again. It
has sat 
in my garage for the past 3 years with the interior out of it and the
interior 
of my crashed 91 560SEC in the basement! 

  Does anybody know a good place to get a a decent pair of Euro Bumpers?
They 
don't have to be in perfect condition, just no cracks or breaks. Also
what 
should I expect to pay for a pair? Of bumpers that is.

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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:10:55 -0400
From: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers
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Ronny,
 
Lots of differences.  The euro gen1 are narrower than the euro gen2, and
on the 
rear the gen1 dips "in" faster than the gen2, which means the muffler
and tire 
well are seen more easily.  Most asthetics, but still, there are
differences.  
Overall, the euro bumpers are slimmer than the US bumpers, which were
the same 
across all the 126 models years, no US gen1 or gen2.  Again, mostly
asthetics, 
but attachment points are different, the US bumpers have "shocks" that
attach 
that were supposed to help in 5mph or less accidents.
 
Lorinser, AMG, Zender, etc are all tuners that added lips/spoilers to
the 
existing bumpers to bring them even lower to the ground.  Here is a good
link 
with pictures:
 
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=257118&highlight=eu
ro+bumpers

Markus Meyer 
484-919-9762 
www.meyerprobateproperties.com


 


From: ronny.geenen at verizon.net
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:36:23 -0700
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers




What are the difference between all those bumpers.?
 
Ronny

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Markus Meyer 
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers

Well, you can try and find gen2 euro bumpers (good luck, hard to find,
and even 
if you do, quite expensive - there's a set on ebay right now for over
$800 plus 
shipping and they need work), or you can go with gen1 euro bumpers, or
get AMG, 
Lorinser, etc like I have on mine.  In general, these are getting harder
and 
harder to find, especially with non-rusted or dinged chrome.

Markus
 


Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:57:20 -0700
From: coloradocroat at yahoo.com
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers





Markus,


No not necisarrily "Period Correct"  The car is not going to be stock in
look or 
anything.  The interior will be from my 91 and customized passed that
so, more 
of what I want in an 85 SEC not really what the engineers may have
thought of!




From: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at hotmail.com>
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 9:51:24 AM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] bumpers



David,
 
I assume you want to stay "period correct" and get gen1 euro bumpers,
since your 
500 is a gen1 model?  If so, I have a set of Lorinser euro bumpers that
are 
available.  For standard euro gen1 bumpers, you can check ebay,
benzworld or 
peachparts classifieds, they pop up there from time to time.

Markus 

------
 
Gang,

I have been off the list for a while, but still monitoring until I got 
unsubscribed! I am starting to get my 85 500SEC project going again. It
has sat 
in my garage for the past 3 years with the interior out of it and the
interior 
of my crashed 91 560SEC in the basement! 

Does anybody know a good place to get a a decent pair of Euro Bumpers?
They 
don't have to be in perfect condition, just no cracks or breaks. Also
what 
should I expect to pay for a pair? Of bumpers that is.

Thanks,

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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:26:17 -0400
From: "Attila" <attila13 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test
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Actually, it is coming along nicely.  The main items are the

rear window install and the trunk-lid.  It should be completed 

by the end of December.  I changed the color from burgundy

to 'fuck-you-officer' red (I mean it's red!!!).  I have already

torn-up the parking lot where I keep it.  It's a beast with the

tri-ys and straight through exhaust.  I should be pushing 300hp

after some fine tuning.  In the meantime I purchased an '84, 

(genuine) white-on-white 500 SEC.  Real AMG all around, including

the camshafts, high compression, etc.  Too many projects.  Ciao.

  _____  

From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of David Fatovic
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:59 AM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test

 

Thanks Attila.  Hey by the way is your SEC still in pieces?

 

  _____  

From: Attila <attila13 at bellsouth.net>
To: RONNY GEENEN <ronny.geenen at verizon.net>; Mercedes Coupes Mailing
Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 9:19:40 PM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test



Good work !!!   Should last forever.

 

  _____  

From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of RONNY GEENEN
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:43 AM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test

 

Attila,

 

I followed your advice. First the little bumpers had a different length
and the side I had most problems to close was much higher than the
other. I started to lower this to the same height as the other bumper.
Now it closes much easier but the hood is now much more lower than the
other side.

I started placing washers between the hood and the locking device and I
found out I needed 3 washers under the bolts. I had also to place two
washers on the other side and everything works fine. By the way the
locking device that did not gave me problems had a metal plate in
between to raise the lock. I took that out.

 

Thank you for the help.

Ronny

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Attila <mailto:attila13 at bellsouth.net>  

To: 'RONNY <mailto:ronny.geenen at verizon.net>  GEENEN' ; 'Mercedes
<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>  Coupes Mailing Lists' 

Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 5:58 PM

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test

 

Yes. The mechanism is identical.  You have the same issue

I had.  If the hood is lower than the fender, simply place

washers under the 'hood catch' until the hood is exactly lined-up

with fender (when closed).  The spring will automatically raise

the hood to its maximum level.  But, you need to look at both

sides.  Don't just align one side perfect, without looking at

the other.  Save some money.  You can easily do this yourself.

It's a 10mm nut.  Hope this helps.

 


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From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of RONNY GEENEN
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:14 PM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test

 

Attila,

I managed to get the hood in the lock, but then the hood is a little
lower than the fender.

I also went back to my mechanic and let him read your comments. He
understands your information, but he said the problem is the lock,
because it is not holding the hood.

Do you know if the lock from the sel is the same as from an sec?

Ronny

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Attila <mailto:attila13 at bellsouth.net>  

To: 'RONNY <mailto:ronny.geenen at verizon.net>  GEENEN' ; 'Mercedes
<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>  Coupes Mailing Lists' 

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:17 PM

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test

 

Ronny.  No, you don't.  Save yourself alot grief.  Back-off

the little rubber bumpers which keep the hood from going

too low, when you shut it.  In fact, just remove these, because

this is only for people who slam their hoods.  Next, see if the 

side of the hood aligns with the fender (both sides).  If your 

driver's side is too low (as you indicate), place washers between

the hood and the locking mechanism (hinge).  Do not use the

spacers some SECs come with.  They hold rust.  Just vary the

thickness of the washers, depending on how much you are off.

You will see what I mean, once you begin to play with the latch

(hinge).  It's more easy and simple than my narrative.  Once 

you have adjusted it properly, you will not need to push the hood

down any more than a gentle nudge to close it.  The spring in the 

latch prevents the hood from 'sitting' too low, so you never need

the rubber bumpers.  Hope this makes sense.  I just did this on

my '89.

 

 


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[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of RONNY GEENEN
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:38 PM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Test

 

I need a locking device for the engine hood, the one on the drivers
side. The hood from my 1987 560 sec will only falls in the lock when I
use a lot of power down worth.

Does somebody has one available?

 

Ronny
Glendora , Ca 91740
1987 560 SEC
1984 300 SD

 


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:53:01 -0700
From: ARTHUR STILLWELL <corker1957 at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test
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Hey Attila,

Do you need a trunk cover?

Corky Stillwell




At 07:26 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote:

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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:32:53 -0700
From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at oigp.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 63, Issue 32
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I had a Fuel Pump Relay problem (1991 560 SEC) for a while without
knowing what the problem was, but I forcefully "jiggled" the relay
without taking it out and the car started.

The situation reoccurred and the "jiggling" got the car to start
immediately. So I removed the relay, cleaned the pins and sockets the
pins fit into with some electronic cleaner I got from Radio Shack and I
haven't had the problem since.

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:44:36 -0400
From: Richard Hesek <Richard_Hesek at raytheon.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] E420 request Non-coupe content
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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  I have my eye on a 97 E420. (I don't know why. It has 4 doors).

I wondered if anybody knew where the OBDII diagnostic socket is?

Thanks,

Rick
Northboro, MA



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:47:20 -0400
From: "Steve Ferngren" <sferngren at badgeagency.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] I am trying to restore my 1990 SEC where can I
	get in	excellent or new?
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Chrome Set (no frost)

Complete set of gaskets for windows

Engine compartment stickers

Rubber gasket for sun room

What should a complete paint job cost using the correct German paint?

 

I need the aluminum carburetor engine cover 

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:33:20 -0400
From: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] I am trying to restore my 1990 SEC where can
	I get in	excellent or new?
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US or euro?  I have excellent US chrome, rear was brand new when I got
the car.  The rest, most likely dealer.

 

Paint job is hard to say.  If you have the car stripped down and redone,
can be 5 figures.  The less you have taken off and done, the less it
should cost.

Markus Meyer 
484-919-9762 
www.meyerprobateproperties.com


 


From: sferngren at badgeagency.com
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:47:20 -0400
Subject: [W126 Coupe] I am trying to restore my 1990 SEC where can I get
in excellent or new?





Chrome Set (no frost)
Complete set of gaskets for windows
Engine compartment stickers
Rubber gasket for sun room
What should a complete paint job cost using the correct German paint?
 
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:48:11 -0400
From: Jonathan Hodgman <blueridgemb at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] I am trying to restore my 1990 SEC where can
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:32:06 -0400
From: Jonathan Hodgman <blueridgemb at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] E420 request Non-coupe content
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Under the dash...down above your shins.

I'd recommend looking @ a 124 over a 210...210's LOVE to rust.

Jonathan

Richard Hesek wrote:

>   I have my eye on a 97 E420. (I don't know why. It has 4 doors).

>

> I wondered if anybody knew where the OBDII diagnostic socket is?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Rick

> Northboro, MA

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:48:33 -0400
From: "Michael de Holl" <mdeholl at ptd.net>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Anti Freeze Change Dilemma
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I suspect its been 4 or 5 years or longer since the antifreeze has been
change on my 1991 SEC. I have the car up on ramps, new MB antifreeze
ready to add. My dilemma is I can't get the engine block drain plugs
loose to properly drain all the fluid. If I'm reading the Service Manual
correctly the location of the plugs correspond to a 6mm allen socket
plug. I have the plugs drenched with liquid wrench. Any suggestion how
to get these buggers out? Thanks Mike
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:59:10 -0400
From: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Anti Freeze Change Dilemma
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Mike,

 

I wouldn't bother, honestly.  I know someone who did this and it turned
into quite a nightmare.  I'd simply drain the radiator, refill with
water, run the car for a bit, then drain it again and refill with 50/50.
If you really want to go nuts, you can do the acid flush, but I've also
heard cautions on doing that as it could loosen things and clog the
system.

Markus Meyer 
484-919-9762 
www.meyerprobateproperties.com


 


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To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:48:33 -0400
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Anti Freeze Change Dilemma




I suspect its been 4 or 5 years or longer since the antifreeze has been
change on my 1991 SEC. I have the car up on ramps, new MB antifreeze
ready to add. My dilemma is I can't get the engine block drain plugs
loose to properly drain all the fluid. If I'm reading the Service Manual
correctly the location of the plugs correspond to a 6mm allen socket
plug. I have the plugs drenched with liquid wrench. Any suggestion how
to get these buggers out?
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:26:51 -0400
From: "Attila" <attila13 at bellsouth.net>
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	Not really, I meant the trunk-lid was not yet on.  
	BTW.  I have a bunch of original parts, if anyone
	is interested.  Springs, self-leveling, cruise control,
	U.S. lights, etc., etc.  The car had 67k miles when
	I removed all that stuff.  I gave away a bunch of
	items, but still have plenty.  All prices will be in
	green bottles.  Ciao. Bambino.


-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of ARTHUR STILLWELL
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Test

Hey Attila,

Do you need a trunk cover?

Corky Stillwell




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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:39:50 -0400
From: "Richard & Nancy Diefenbach" <diefenbach at kingcon.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Anti Freeze Change Dilemma
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Mike - Markus and Jonathan have the right idea about leaving the block
drains alone and flush with water.  Make sure you leave your heat temps.
on high to circulate all the old stuff out of the car.

Dick
Danville, VT


  Mike,
   
  I wouldn't bother, honestly.  I know someone who did this and it
turned into quite a nightmare.  I'd simply drain the radiator, refill
with water, run the car for a bit, then drain it again and refill with
50/50.  If you really want to go nuts, you can do the acid flush, but
I've also heard cautions on doing that as it could loosen things and
clog the system.

  Markus Meyer 
  484-919-9762 
  www.meyerprobateproperties.com


   

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  Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:48:33 -0400
  Subject: [W126 Coupe] Anti Freeze Change Dilemma


  I suspect its been 4 or 5 years or longer since the antifreeze has
been change on my 1991 SEC. I have the car up on ramps, new MB
antifreeze ready to add. My dilemma is I can't get the engine block
drain plugs loose to properly drain all the fluid. If I'm reading the
Service Manual correctly the location of the plugs correspond to a 6mm
allen socket plug. I have the plugs drenched with liquid wrench. Any
suggestion how to get these buggers out?
  Thanks Mike


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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:15:31 -0400
From: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at hotmail.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] FW:  Anti Freeze Change Dilemma
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A couple of helpful threads about draining the coolant/flushing with
citric acid, etc:
 
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1474108-antifreeze-
drain-fill.html
 
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1446652-c126-w126-w
ater-pump-r-r-8.html

Markus Meyer 
484-919-9762 
www.meyerprobateproperties.com


 


From: diefenbach at kingcon.com
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:39:50 -0400
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Anti Freeze Change Dilemma




Mike - Markus and Jonathan have the right idea about leaving the block
drains alone and flush with water.  Make sure you leave your heat temps.
on high to circulate all the old stuff out of the car.
 
Dick
Danville, VT


Mike,
 
I wouldn't bother, honestly.  I know someone who did this and it turned
into quite a nightmare.  I'd simply drain the radiator, refill with
water, run the car for a bit, then drain it again and refill with 50/50.
If you really want to go nuts, you can do the acid flush, but I've also
heard cautions on doing that as it could loosen things and clog the
system.

Markus Meyer 
484-919-9762 
www.meyerprobateproperties.com


 


From: mdeholl at ptd.net
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:48:33 -0400
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Anti Freeze Change Dilemma




I suspect its been 4 or 5 years or longer since the antifreeze has been
change on my 1991 SEC. I have the car up on ramps, new MB antifreeze
ready to add. My dilemma is I can't get the engine block drain plugs
loose to properly drain all the fluid. If I'm reading the Service Manual
correctly the location of the plugs correspond to a 6mm allen socket
plug. I have the plugs drenched with liquid wrench. Any suggestion how
to get these buggers out? Thanks Mike


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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:27:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Fatovic <coloradocroat at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] I am trying to restore my 1990 SEC where can
	I get	in excellent or new?
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You have a sun room in your SEC. Man that must be one heck of a feature!
;)

David Fatovic


On Oct 22, 2009, at 1:47 PM, "Steve Ferngren"
<sferngren at badgeagency.com> wrote:

Chrome Set (no frost)

Complete set of gaskets for windows

Engine compartment stickers

Rubber gasket for sun room

What should a complete paint job cost using the correct German paint?

 

I need the aluminum carburetor engine cover

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