[W126 Coupe] AMG History Lesson

[Willardtredway at aol.com]

Thanks for the information Jonathon, every little bit helps. My 500SLC has  
an AMG body kit, a  whiteout paint job and possibly other internal mods of  
which I am unaware but after contacting the AMG historical group and sending  
pictures to them, I still have no definitive info on whether the work on the car  
was done at AMG prior to its export to the US. 
 
Willard
 
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1.  No  heat (samsisic at comcast.net)
2. Re: That was supposed to  be.....History lesson on AMG
specifications please...!  (Jon Pridham)
3. Stubborn fan (Vedat Iplikci)
4. Re: Stubborn fan (Axel Wulff)
5. Re: Stubborn fan (Iain  Gunn)
6. Re: No heat (Markus Meyer)
7. SEC  engine/transmission question (Josh Allen)
8. Re: Stubborn fan  (Vedat Iplikci)
9. Re: SEC engine/transmission question  (Markus  Meyer)


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Message:  1
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 19:09:32 +0000
From:  samsisic at comcast.net
Subject: [W126 Coupe]  No heat
To:  mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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Thanks for the  advice guys... and RG, I can always expect a dose of sagacity 
from you!  ;-)
Don't you ever get up to Chicago?
It's likely that the monovalve  never had a chance to break in on my SEC.
It's one of those use it or lose  it things. I'll check it out.
Thanks again & all the best!!
Cheers  Axel!
Sam
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:33:58 +0000
From: Jon Pridham  <jon-lu974 at hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] That was supposed  to be.....History lesson
on AMG specifications  please...!
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Hi Guys,

Many thanks for  the info - i'm a little wiser than i was before.

Thanks

Jon>  Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 10:34:25 -0400> From: jhodgman at gmail.com> To:  
mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] That was supposed to  
be.....History lesson on AMG specifications please...!> > Renntech  didn't come until 
the demise of AMG NA. Namely, once Hartmut > was done in  Westmont, IL he went 
down to FL and opened up Renntech.> > I was quoting  tuners of the same 
general/1980's time period.> > Jonathan> >  Kelly Frink wrote:> > Jonathan> > How 
about Rentec as a tuner>  >> > -----Original Message-----> > From:  
mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]> >  On Behalf Of 
Jonathan> > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:15 AM> >  To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing 
Lists> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] That was  supposed to be.....History lesson 
on AMG> > specifications  please...!> >> > As jay mentioned, the VIN/Chassis 
number stayed  the same. AMG would > > stamp some of their own #'s into the 
quad  cam/32V engines and > > occasionally mount up body tags but  that's
about it. We have a full two > > full on AMG Hammers in  at the moment and 
aside from the Obvious mods > > there isn't a single #  & or body plaque on the 
entire car to alert you > > to it's  AMG-ness.> >> > When you purchased a 
Mercedes you would send it  off to AMG just like any > > other tuner, ie Koenig, 
Lorinser, Brabus,  Carlson, Carat Duchatalet, > > SGS...is all I can think of 
off the top  of my head this morning.> >> > It is difficult to tell @ times if  
a car was fiddled on by AMG/an AMG > > approved installer w/o  documentation. 
However, the more options > > installed the greater the  chance of the car 
being a Genuine as opposed > > to a reproduction. Not  many people are swapping 
in interiors, 32V > > engines, GT diff's,  suspension, body kit etc, etc..> >> 

> AMG would do basically what  ever their clients were looking for...the > > 

limiting factor was how  many zero's they were willing to add to the check!> 

>> >  Jonathan> >> >> > > > > -- > Blue Ridge  Mercedes> Offering Ent

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Message:  3
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 00:59:25 +0300
From: "Vedat Iplikci"  <saveks at superonline.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Stubborn fan
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Hi Group,

My A/C/heater blower  fan never stops running. It functions perfectly well 
when the A/C or heater is  on. The trouble is when the heating/cooling is 
stopped, because the blower  keeps running at the slowest speed. My mechanic says 
the regulator is faulty  which I prefer to leave as a final option because of 
its price. Any  suggestions?

Vedat Iplikci
1987 560 SEC Euro
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Message:  4
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:29:58 -0400
From: Axel Wulff  <axelwulff at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Stubborn fan
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Ummmm.....

Isn't that the  way it is supposed to work?

Do you have the automatic climate control  with the push-button panel, or the 
manual one with the twin dials?

On  my ACC the only way to turn the fan completely off is to press the "0" 
button.  In either economy mode or with the AC on, the fan will be on at some  
speed.Regards, Axel J. Wulff610-731-5453 Cellular610-572-4611  Home


From: saveks at superonline.comTo: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.comDate:  Wed, 7 May 2008 
00:59:25 +0300Subject: [W126 Coupe] Stubborn  fan



Hi Group,

My A/C/heater blower fan never stops  running. It functions perfectly well 
when the A/C or heater is on. The trouble  is when the heating/cooling is 
stopped, because the blower keeps running at  the slowest speed. My mechanic says 
the regulator is faulty which I prefer to  leave as a final option because of 
its price. Any suggestions?

Vedat  Iplikci
1987 560 SEC Euro
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Message:  5
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:51:28 -0400
From: "Iain Gunn"  <igunn at bmts.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Stubborn fan
To:  "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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That's exactly right. If you have the push button,  hit the O and see what 
happens, usually farthest right.
If this is correct,  get a new mechanic
----- Original Message ----- 
From:  Axel Wulff 
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
Sent:  Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Stubborn  fan


Ummmm.....

Isn't that the way  it is supposed to work?

Do you have the automatic  climate control with the push-button panel, or the 
manual one with the twin  dials?

On my ACC the only way to turn the fan  completely off is to press the "0" 
button. In either economy mode or with the  AC on, the fan will be on at some 
speed.

Regards, 
Axel J. Wulff
610-731-5453 Cellular
610-572-4611  Home




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From: saveks at superonline.com
To:  mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 00:59:25  +0300
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Stubborn fan


Hi Group,

My A/C/heater blower fan never stops  running. It functions perfectly well 
when the A/C or heater is on. The trouble  is when the heating/cooling is 
stopped, because the blower keeps running at  the slowest speed. My mechanic says 
the regulator is faulty which I prefer to  leave as a final option because of 
its price. Any suggestions?

Vedat Iplikci
1987 560 SEC  Euro


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Message:  6
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:28:47 -0700
From: Markus Meyer  <mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] No  heat
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Message:  7
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 22:38:09 -0700
From: Josh Allen  <heyallen at null-ptr.net>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] SEC engine/transmission  question
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists  <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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For those of you who have some  experience disassembling your cars, I 
have a question.

How do you  get the torque converter to seat correctly, and the 
transmission to bolt  back onto the engine?

After pulling the destroyed engine out of my car,  and separating the 
engine and transmission, I can not get the transmission  to bolt back up 
with the "new" engine.

I've measured the depth of  the flex plate, thinking that there might be 
a difference between the two  engines (same depth on both, measured at 
multiple points), measured how  far the torque converter is set down into 
the bell housing on both of the  transmissions that I have access to 
(also the same depth).

When I  try to bolt the transmission onto the engine, it ends up binding 
and  bowing the flex plate.  If I pull it much further than the start of  
that, it binds up enough that the engine and transmission cannot be  rotated.


On a related note, should the transmission input shaft be  relatively 
free turning?  The old crusty tranny that came with my  usable engine 
spins freely, while the input shaft on the one that I pulled  out of the 
car won't turn at all, unless you spin the output  shaft.


Thanks for any input, I had to call it quits for the night,  after 
multiple attempts to get things to seat correctly, or to figure out  if 
there was some difference between the two years of  engines.

-Josh


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Message:  8
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:34:20 +0300
From: "Vedat Iplikci"  <saveks at superonline.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Stubborn  fan
To: "Iain Gunn" <igunn at bmts.com>,    "Mercedes Coupes  Mailing Lists"
<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Yes, I do have the push button panel.  If the problem were not hitting O and 
still complain about the fan not  stopping I would have needed a new brain 
rather than a new mechanic, wouldn't  I!... :)

Of course the trouble is that the fan keeps running when I  turn it off by 
pushing O.

Vedat Iplikci
1987 560 SEC Euro
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Iain Gunn 
To:  Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:51  AM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Stubborn fan


That's  exactly right. If you have the push button, hit the O and see what 
happens,  usually farthest right.
If this is correct, get a new  mechanic
----- Original Message ----- 
From:  Axel Wulff 
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [W126  Coupe] Stubborn fan


Ummmm.....

Isn't that the way it is supposed to work?

Do you have the automatic climate control with  the push-button panel, or the 
manual one with the twin dials?

On my ACC the only way to turn the fan  completely off is to press the "0" 
button. In either economy mode or with the  AC on, the fan will be on at some 
speed.

Regards,  
Axel J. Wulff
610-731-5453  Cellular
610-572-4611  Home




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From: saveks at superonline.com
To:  mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 00:59:25  +0300
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Stubborn  fan


Hi Group,

My  A/C/heater blower fan never stops running. It functions perfectly well 
when  the A/C or heater is on. The trouble is when the heating/cooling is 
stopped,  because the blower keeps running at the slowest speed. My mechanic says 
the  regulator is faulty which I prefer to leave as a final option because of 
its  price. Any suggestions?

Vedat Iplikci
1987 560 SEC  Euro


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Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 05:59:34 -0700
From: Markus Meyer  <mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] SEC  engine/transmission question
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