[W126 Coupe] Additional 560 SEC Exhaust and performance questions

[Jonathan]

John,

Your supercharger after cam work has me a bit concerned..  Are you 
planning on a cam even more suited to FI..??  How NA cams are FI's 
nemesis..You'll blow your charge right out the combustion chamber w/ 
large amounts of overlap etc.

FYI, a 560 is an M117, not a 116 (380/420).   Tri y's are good, but 
we're working on a system that Should work better in a tubular header.

What are you having done to the transmission? 

Jonathan

johnfolger wrote:

> My '88 560 is getting a rebuilt and "beefed" transmission. Next stage is to

> improve exhaust flow. Are the m116 log manifolds the best I can do, or are

> there headers available? I also want duel exhaust and was told that 2 1/2

> inch Flow master pipes will help the breathing. I'm planning on

> supercharging after cam work to try to upgrade to AMG performance. What else

> should be on my list?

> Thanks

> John

>

> 1988 SEC 560 124k "gunmetal grey" with matching lower body and wheels

> 1992 Dodge Dakota for puddle jumping

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>    1. Re: meeting. (Markus Meyer)

>    2. Re: Ride hight (richard jaffe)

>    3. AMG 2-PCS vs. AMG 3-PCS (Franco)

>    4. Re: AMG 2-PCS vs. AMG 3-PCS (Jonathan Hodgman)

>    5. Re: AMG 2-PCS vs. AMG 3-PCS (Bruce Mendel)

>    6. Re: AMG 2-PCS vs. AMG 3-PCS (John Poole)

>    7. Re: Buzzing Fuel Pump (John Howard)

>    8. 380sec Exhaust system uprgrade (M0NM0N at aol.com)

>    9. Re: 380sec Exhaust system uprgrade (Jonathan)

>   10. Re: 380sec Exhaust system uprgrade (Mister McGoo)

>   11. Re: 380sec Exhaust system uprgrade (Jonathan Hodgman)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:16:53 -0700

> From: Markus Meyer <mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] meeting.

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> From: "richard jaffe" <rsjaffe1 at msn.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Ride hight

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> Hey Axel,

>

> The right side pipe comes out of the resonator and does what is essentially

> a flattened S pattern past the fuel pump. I thought that might be a problem

> too but a talented muffler and pipe guy pulled it off with a 3/4 inch air

> gap between the pipe and the pump. Plus there is a piece of heat shielding

> for added protection. Going on six years now without any problems.

>

> Rich

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>   Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Ride hight

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>   Rich,

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>   I noticed you have dual exhaust pipes.

>    

>   How did you route the pipe to the right side?

>    

>   Satish has a dual pipe setup on his car and he routed the pipe behind the

> bumper. I guess you don't want to get too close to the fuel pumps.

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>   Regards, 

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>     Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:27:00 -0500

>     Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Ride hight

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>     Pete,

>     I've got H&R sport springs on my 85 Euro - they dropped it approx 1.5

> inches all the way around. Cornering and roll resistance are noticeably

> improved. However, some cars may develop excessive negative camber in the

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>     Rich Jaffe

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>       Hello all,

>       My '83 500 SEC AMG looks like it rides a little high all the way

> around and a little more in the rear. Not much, just noticable. Are there

> spring sets or lowering kits out there that are mostly cosmetic. There is a

> lot of room in the wheel wells. I don't want a "low rider", just enough to

> level it out. I'd like to see one done before I would lower it. Are there

> air bags available? This thing rides like it's glued to the road. I'd rather

> leave it as is than lose that.

>       Any ideas?

>       Pete Williams

>       1972 350SL 4.5, 257K Miles

>       1983 500 SEC AMG, 110K Miles ??

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> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:21:53 -0700

> From: "Franco" <dusktilldawn at cox.net>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] AMG 2-PCS vs. AMG 3-PCS

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> AMG 2-PCS (8,5 x 17 et30) & AMG THE 3-PCS (8,5 x 17 et18)

> I know it's the offset is different but the question is will they fit on the

> 560 or what model where they made for

>  

> ? ciao, Frank

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> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:01:43 -0500

> From: "Jonathan Hodgman" <jhodgman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] AMG 2-PCS vs. AMG 3-PCS

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> If i'm not mistaken the 30's are for 124's..

>

> Jonathan

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> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Franco <dusktilldawn at cox.net> wrote:

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>   

>>    AMG 2-PCS (8,5 x 17 et30) & AMG THE 3-PCS (8,5 x 17 et18)

>> I know it's the offset is different but the question is will they fit on

>> the 560 or what model where they made for

>>

>>

>> ? ciao, Frank

>>

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