[W126 Coupe] Oil leak - transmission advice
Jonathan
jhodgman at gmail.com
Sun Jun 22 12:12:09 EDT 2008
We have a kit that you can use to modify the 3-4 shift so you can firm
up Just that shift...it's a pretty common problem... Only thing you
need to drop the valve body to put it in... it's not hard, just messy
and you need to pay attention whilst doing so.
I used to use the lucas more often until I found the B&M fluid... Lucas
still has additives to help smooth clutch engagement, ie slippage..
B&M's additives are designed Strictly w/ Grip in mind. On my track car
2-3 was so-so, 3-4 was getting bad with about 200K on the box. Added
6lbs pressure (two turns) w/ the mod valve, did a flush w/ B&M trick
shift (their standard not synthetic fluid the first time around) and it
was as though 100K worth of wear was done away with.
Jonathan
Iain Gunn wrote:
> There are 2 distinct things on automatic transmissions that people get
> mixed up about.
> Slipping: is caused by not enough fluid pressure to hold the clutch
> packs together, or clutches are worn out. Once slipping starts It
> usually stays, Slipping will happen in all gears as the clutches
> effect all gears. Usually worse in the higher gears. One way to check
> clutches is to do a brake stand. Foot on the brake and run the engine
> up, transmission in gear. You should feel the car trying to pull hard
> without moving and the RPM will reach a maximum and not go higher. If
> the rpm keep increasing without heavy torque from your vehicle, the
> clutches are not working properly. Most times this is a fatal
> condition and the transmission needs repaired.
> Flare: Is caused by, the linkages from the throttle out of
> position, a faulty modulator valve, a valve body, with some blockage,
> a leaking pump or servo.
> The effect of this is, when you hard accelerate, as the transmission
> shifts from one gear to the other, the engine reves up but the car
> doesn't shift into the next gear properly, kind of like it went to
> neutral temporarily. When you back off the accelerator, it eventually
> pops in, usually with a jerk., Sound familiar?
> When, you back off on the accelerator, in a low gear with high RPMs,
> the pump pressure rises dramatically, and the transmission shifts.
> Once it is engaged it is usually OK. This is not a fatal condition and
> can sometimes be corrected, often improved with a transmission filter
> and fluid change. See Jonathans post on fluid.
> Now the more you allow the transmission to flare, the more you are
> slipping the clutch pack and you will burn out the clutches, so don't
> do this, because if you drive the vehicle normally it usually shifts
> just fine.
> In conclusion: I've had 3 MB's and they all seem to have a flare
> issue between 3rd and 4rth?? when driven hard. I have resolved the
> issue in 2 the 560's by changing the fluid and adding Lucas
> transmission conditioner, which tells me its old seals that have
> shrunk with age and previous owners not changing the fluids. Change
> you ATF more often, at least every 10,000 miles, its cheap insurance.
> On the 190E 2.6, haven't resolved, and this is definitely a MB
> design issue, cause the forums all tell of the same issue. I haven't
> changed the modulator valve yet, could be some of the issue, but I
> don't think so, but haven't found a transmission mechanic that has
> resolved this issue with this transmission. Probably needs a valve
> body upgrade or a modified shift kit. Haven't been able to find this
> either. So I adjusted the Bodine cable, to short shift the
> transmission and when I need to pass or downshift, I do it manually.
> If you know a transmission mechanic that I can email or talk to about
> the 190 issue, I'd appreciate any help in this area.
> Hope this helps, Iain Gunn, Mount Forest, Ontario, Canada
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