[W126 Coupe] Tranie Question

[Camran Nassiri]

Hi Dick- I am glad you asked the question about the filter.  That perhaps could be the culprit.  I believe I put it back the same way the old one was in there; had no idea that the filter can be installed in different positions.  I know for sure that it is the right side up; but, cannot guarantee I had it 90 or 180 turned.  Can that have happened?  If so I have to take the whole thing appart and check and make sure.  One thing I know is that the problem wasn't there before I changed the oil and filter.  If I take it appart do I need a new gasket again or can I use the new one I put in last time I changed the oil?
 
Thank you Dick and everyone else who has provided tremendous helpful hints.
 
Camran> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 12:07:10 -0400> From: spell.yy at verizon.net> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tranie Question> > Hi Camran:> > I see in your original post that you serviced the tranny properly. Got > to ask, did you note the orientation of the filter when putting in the > new one? In other words, no chance you put it together incorrectly? > You did return the torque converter drain plug? You did use the correct > fluid? I know all rather obvious questions but, if one item is done > incorrectly the tranny can start behaving badly. Assuming you feel > confident all of thiss was done correctly, I'd just go ahead with the an > adjustment to the Bowden cable to see if that clears the late shift for you.> > > Refer to the manual for your year/model. Should just be a turn or two > in the right direction to get rid of the late shift. Adjusting the > Bowden cable will result in an earlier shift for all gears not just > 3-4. You should be able to find a happy medium that gives you the > pick-up desired and better shift points. You are not describing flaring > so I'd leave the vacuum modulator alone for now. Start with the Bowden > adjustment (3 minute job) and see if the shifting is improved.> > Regards,> > Dick> > Camran Nassiri wrote:> > RPH- I have checked and re-checked the fluid level and it is right on > > the second line. However, as I drive the car it seems like it dosen't > > want to change gears unless I let off the gas; especially the last > > gear. Getting on the freeway the other day I was at 75 MPH and let > > off the gas and that's when it switched to the 4th gear. Is that normal?> > > > Camran> > 90 560SEC, 91 420SEL> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > From: R_Hogarth at Foundrycove.com> > To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com> > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 20:29:38 -0500> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tranie Question> >> > During a transmission service, the torque converter will never> > completely drain by just letting it sit.> >> > Fluid will always be left below the level of the output shaft spline.> >> > To drain it completely during a transmission service, the> > Tq-Converter either needs to be removed or a hole drilled on the> > outside of the Tq Converter on either side of the seam weld. Once> > drained, the hole is plugged with a self tapping tapered plug.> >> > It’s a lot of work to get the last 1.5 qts of tranny fluid out.> >> > -RPH> >> > > >> > *From:* mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Hodgman> > *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2007 3:28 PM> > *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists> > *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] Tranie Question> >> > > >> > Don't know, but any transmission builder I've spoken with has> > explained it as mentioned prior, which makes sense. You want to> > check the fluid level with it as close to driving conditions as> > possible. The longer you wait, the more time the converter has to> > drain into the pan which is why you run/drive/cycle the car> > through the gears in the first place.> >> > Perhaps MB doesn't want any sloshing to throw the reading off, ie,> > if fluid wiggles it's way back up the tube some.> >> > When I check the level I re-check it about 3 times @ each try as> > they never come out exactly the same each time. I consider the> > level to be where it consistently comes up to on the stick on both> > sides of the dipstick.> >> > So far so good;-)> >> > Jonathan> >> > On 3/30/07, *Shayegan, Richard* <rishayegan at davidson.edu> > <mailto:rishayegan at davidson.edu>> wrote:> >> > Why does the service manual say to wait 1 to 2 minutes? Not being> > contradictory, just asking.> >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > *From:* mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com> > <mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com>> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com> > <mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com>] *On Behalf Of> > *Jonathan Hodgman> > *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2007 1:48 PM> > *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists> > *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] Tranie Question> >> > I wouldn't do the waiting after having the car in gear. You> > want to check the level as Quickly as possible after running> > the car through all the gears. All waiting does is allow the> > fluid to start draining from the torque converter back into> > the pan, thus giving an inaccurate reading.> >> > Jonathan> >> > On 3/30/07, *Shayegan, Richard* <rishayegan at davidson.edu> > <mailto:rishayegan at davidson.edu>> wrote:> >> > When hot (and I mean hot), it should be just up to the max> > line (mine actually will bleed out to where it's like 75%> > towards the max side in between the two marks if I fill it to> > the max line) if you get it hot, stop, put it in P, wait 2> > seconds, R, wait 2 seconds, N wait, D, wait, and then back> > (again with waiting between shifts), then let it idle for> > 60-120 seconds then check it.> >> > > >> > If you check it cold (i.e. at shop temperature) with the> > engine running, run it through the gears with a wait between> > shift, it should be slightly below the min-line, IIRC 5mm> > below on the 722.3 transmission.> >> > Richard> >> >> > -- > > Blue Ridge Mercedes/AMG East> > Offering Enthusiast Service, Restoration and Modification.> > Providing quality parts to discriminating customers in all> > parts of the world.> > Located in the Greater Atlanta area.> > http://www.blueridgemb.com <http://www.blueridgemb.com/>> > http://www.AMGEast.com <http://www.amgeast.com/>> >> > 1996 S600 Euro "Scharnhorst"> > 1991 560 SEC Full Euro ECE> > 1991 560 SEC 226Hp/271ft/lbs:)> > 1989 560 SEC AMG (N.Amer 250/295)> > 1987 560 SEC US Spec> > 1986 560 SEL AMG 6.0L 32V> > 1986 560 SL White on Burgundy> > 1985 500 SEL Euro (Parts Car)> > 1985 300 CD For Sale> > 1980 280 SE Euro> > 1978 300D TMU> > 1987 560 SEL 162K Midnight Blue on Gray RIP:(> > 1987 560 SEC Sold> > 1992 E300D 140K Champagne on Parchment tex (Sold)> > 1990 560 SEC 154K Anthracite on Gray (Sold)> > 1988 300 TE 160K Burgundy on Palomino (Sold)> > 1980 280 SE US 185K (Sold)> > 2006 Z4 3.0Si M spec 6sp> >> >> > The MB Coupes Website!> > W126 SEC Mailing List> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.> >> >> >> >> > -- > > Blue Ridge Mercedes/AMG East> > Offering Enthusiast Service, Restoration and Modification.> > Providing quality parts to discriminating customers in all parts> > of the world.> > Located in the Greater Atlanta area.> > http://www.blueridgemb.com <http://www.blueridgemb.com/>> > http://www.AMGEast.com <http://www.amgeast.com/>> >> > 1996 S600 Euro "Scharnhorst"> > 1991 560 SEC Full Euro ECE> > 1991 560 SEC 226Hp/271ft/lbs:)> > 1989 560 SEC AMG (N.Amer 250/295)> > 1987 560 SEC US Spec> > 1986 560 SEL AMG 6.0L 32V> > 1986 560 SL White on Burgundy> > 1985 500 SEL Euro (Parts Car)> > 1985 300 CD For Sale> > 1980 280 SE Euro> > 1978 300D TMU> > 1987 560 SEL 162K Midnight Blue on Gray RIP:(> > 1987 560 SEC Sold> > 1992 E300D 140K Champagne on Parchment tex (Sold)> > 1990 560 SEC 154K Anthracite on Gray (Sold)> > 1988 300 TE 160K Burgundy on Palomino (Sold)> > 1980 280 SE US 185K (Sold)> > 2006 Z4 3.0Si M spec 6sp> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Your friends are close to you. 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