[W126 Coupe] Tire pressures

Mon Jun 5 09:46:49 EDT 2006

Kivendren,

Uhmmm... 210 psi? Any tire left?

Either you you mean 21 psi, which is severely under-inflated, or you are 
referring to a different pressure scale that I don't know about.

With a 40 sidewall I'd recommend 40 psi, but other on this board have argued 
convincingly that you'd be fine with the standard 32 psi pressure.

Regards,
Axel J. Wulff
610-731-5453 Cellular
610-572-4611 Home

>From: Kivendren Moodliyar <moodliyar at yahoo.com>
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>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 23:54:37 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hi Guys
>   For a 380SEC, i have 17mags and tyres as follows: 245/40.
>
>   What pressure should i have opted for as i added nitrogen this weekend 
>when i put brand new tyres current pressure = 210 psi.
>
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>1. RE: Idle control valve (Rusty Cullens)
>2. RE: Tire pressures (Axel Wulff)
>3. RE: Tire pressures (malcolm369 at comcast.net)
>4. Re: Tire pressures (Dan Landiss)
>5. RE: Tire pressures (David Fatovic)
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>7. RE: Tire pressures (David Fatovic)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:55:14 -0400
>From: "Rusty Cullens"
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Idle control valve
>To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'"
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>They are NOT the same. The part number for US version is 000 141 12 25.
>The number for Euro version is 000 141 14 25. We sell the Euro version
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>
>So not one person here knows if this will work?
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>in a
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>Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:00:08 -0400
>From: "Axel Wulff"
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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>I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their tires, but has anyone any
>idea why helium was not considered?
>
>Like nitrogen, it is an inert gas and will not burn or cause explosions (I
>mean detonations, not blowing out tires due to excessive pressure
>build-up..).
>
>Not much of a weight gain, but with unsprung weight, every ounce counts.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>Axel J. Wulff
>610-731-5453 Cellular
>610-572-4611 Home
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Shayegan, Richard"
> >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"
> >Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> >Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:40:44 -0400
> >
> >It's not about pressures going up too quickly, it's about pressures going
> >up consistently. At any given time air can be made up of different 
>things,
> >but the nitrogen they use is always the same so they know exactly what 
>hot
> >pressure will be yeilded by a given cold pressure. Ask da boy from
> >Charlotte.
> >Richard
> >
> >________________________________
> >
> >From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of Dan Landiss
> >Sent: Thu 6/1/2006 9:25 AM
> >To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> >
> >
> >
> >Axel Wulff wrote:
> > > I like to go to the highest elevation in the Rocky Mountains to change
> > > my air.
> > >
> > > The fresh, non-polluted air extends tire life and is gentler on the
> > > rubber and, as everyone knows, the air is lighter at high altitude so
> > > I save weight.
> >
> >All kidding aside, the race tire suppliers now pump all the air out of
> >newly-mounted tires and replace it with dry air or dry nitrogen. Reason?
> >When it heats up, the water vapor expands faster than dry air would, and
> >thus the pressures go up too fast.
> >
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:13:48 +0000
>From: malcolm369 at comcast.net
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
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>:o)
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>Cheers, Malcolm
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>From: "Axel Wulff"
> > I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their tires, but has anyone 
>any
> > idea why helium was not considered?
> >
> > Like nitrogen, it is an inert gas and will not burn or cause explosions 
>(I
> > mean detonations, not blowing out tires due to excessive pressure
> > build-up..).
> >
> > Not much of a weight gain, but with unsprung weight, every ounce counts.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Axel J. Wulff
> > 610-731-5453 Cellular
> > 610-572-4611 Home
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Shayegan, Richard"
> > >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > >To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"
> > >Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> > >Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:40:44 -0400
> > >
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:27:58 -0500
>From: Dan Landiss
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
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>Axel Wulff wrote:
> > I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their tires, but has anyone
> > any idea why helium was not considered?
>
>Molecules too small, leaks out quickly.
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:59:37 -0700 (PDT)
>From: David Fatovic
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
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>Just a thought, but don't forget all race cars in all
>race classes (NASCAR, IRL, Formula 1, etc) have a
>minimum weight requirement that they already are at
>usually. So I don't know how you could get around
>that.
>
>David
>
>--- Axel Wulff wrote:
>
> > I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their
> > tires, but has anyone any
> > idea why helium was not considered?
> >
> > Like nitrogen, it is an inert gas and will not burn
> > or cause explosions (I
> > mean detonations, not blowing out tires due to
> > excessive pressure
> > build-up..).
> >
> > Not much of a weight gain, but with unsprung weight,
> > every ounce counts.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Axel J. Wulff
> > 610-731-5453 Cellular
> > 610-572-4611 Home
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Shayegan, Richard"
> > >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >
> > >To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"
> >
> > >Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> > >Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:40:44 -0400
> > >
> > >It's not about pressures going up too quickly, it's
> > about pressures going
> > >up consistently. At any given time air can be made
> > up of different things,
> > >but the nitrogen they use is always the same so
> > they know exactly what hot
> > >pressure will be yeilded by a given cold pressure.
> > Ask da boy from
> > >Charlotte.
> > >Richard
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > >
> > >From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of
> > Dan Landiss
> > >Sent: Thu 6/1/2006 9:25 AM
> > >To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > >Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Axel Wulff wrote:
> > > > I like to go to the highest elevation in the
> > Rocky Mountains to change
> > > > my air.
> > > >
> > > > The fresh, non-polluted air extends tire life
> > and is gentler on the
> > > > rubber and, as everyone knows, the air is
> > lighter at high altitude so
> > > > I save weight.
> > >
> > >All kidding aside, the race tire suppliers now pump
> > all the air out of
> > >newly-mounted tires and replace it with dry air or
> > dry nitrogen. Reason?
> > >When it heats up, the water vapor expands faster
> > than dry air would, and
> > >thus the pressures go up too fast.
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >
> >
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Thinking is what a great many people think they
> > are doing when
> > > they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
> > --William James
> > >
> >
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:57:20 -0700 (PDT)
>From: David Fatovic
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
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>But if you are measuring the weight of two items of
>controlled size and one is less dense, wouldn't it
>weigh less then?
>
>David
>
>--- "Shayegan, Richard"
>wrote:
>
> > Cute, but wrong...I think. The air is simply less
> > dense at higher elevation, meaning that the air will
> > still weigh the same to make a given pressure, it'll
> > just take you longer to put
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of
> > Axel Wulff
> > Sent: Thu 6/1/2006 7:12 AM
> > To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> >
> >
> >
> > I like to go to the highest elevation in the Rocky
> > Mountains to change my
> > air.
> >
> > The fresh, non-polluted air extends tire life and is
> > gentler on the rubber
> > and, as everyone knows, the air is lighter at high
> > altitude so I save
> > weight.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Axel J. Wulff
> > 610-731-5453 Cellular
> > 610-572-4611 Home
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Dick Spellman
> > >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >
> > >To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >
> > >Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> > >Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 06:57:15 -0400
> > >
> > >Hey Bill. I am one step ahead of you. I already
> > replaced the winter air
> > >with spring air so the summer air is a no brainer.
> > >
> > >Dick
> > >
> > >Bill P. wrote:
> > >
> > >>Dick don't forget to change out the winter air for
> > summer air in since it
> > >>is
> > >>fairly close to the season!
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > >>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]On
> > >>Behalf Of Dick Spellman
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 23:10
> > >>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > >>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> > >>
> > >>Thanks Dan for the reassuring news. So, I'll
> > adjust for tomorrows run
> > >>40 front, 38 rear just to see how it handles. And
> > thanks Axel for the
> > >>tire rack confirmation.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:18:32 -0700
>From: "Eddie"
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'"
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>Actually you can get nitrogen for your tires from Allen Tire (I think they
>bought out the Goodyear stores?).
>
>Eddie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>On Behalf Of Dan Landiss
>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:28 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>
>Axel Wulff wrote:
> > I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their tires, but has anyone
> > any idea why helium was not considered?
>
>Molecules too small, leaks out quickly.
>
>
>--
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Thinking is what a great many people think they are doing when
>they are merely rearranging their prejudices. --William James
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:39:35 -0300
>From: Lance
>Subject: [W126 Coupe] The cheapest medicine there!
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>Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:00:44 -0500
>From: Dan Landiss
>Subject: [W126 Coupe] AC Blower
>To: MBCoupes
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>I think the HVAC blower motor in my 1991 560SEC has given up. Is the
>procedure for getting it out about the same as my former 300TE, now
>leading a life of luxury in Florida? Any hints and tips? Thanks!
>
>--
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Thinking is what a great many people think they are doing when
>they are merely rearranging their prejudices. --William James
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
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>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:42:00 -0400
>From: "PHILIP GERONIMO"
>
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>Message: 12
>Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:28:31 +0700
>From: Madelyn
>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Effective medicine cOuld be cheap!
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>Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:37:06 -0400
>From: Dick Spellman
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] (no subject)
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
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>Hi Philip:
>
>Thermostat 83 C and replenish the anti-freeze with Zerex G05 or MB
>antifreeze only.
>Visco Fan Clutch
>Check your various belts and hoses at the same time
>Where you are in Boulder you could wire-up a relay for the aux fans to
>always be on when the AC is selected on the climate control.
>
>In any event, you likely need the tstat and visco fan clutch to resolve
>the overheating before you end up with bigger problems like head gasket
>etc. The above presumes you do not see coolant loss and/or you do not
>see bubbles in the coolant expansion tank with engine running, in other
>words the head gasket remains intact at this time. You can get a deal
>on parts from Jonathan or Rusty for the SEC.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dick
>
>PHILIP GERONIMO wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello, I just bought a 1987 560 SEC. It flirts with overheating, i.e.
> > during normal driving, no matter what conditions the temp gage climbs
> > to 120C and the red zone, and then the aux fan kicks in, in order of
> > frequency, what is the most likely cause? I need to prioritize my
> > spending. Thanks in advance for the help.
> >
> > Philip, Boulder CO
> >
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>Message: 14
>Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:38:08 -0400
>From: Dick Spellman
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] AC Blower
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Message-ID: <44808590.6090603 at verizon.net>
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>Hi Dan:
>
>Do you have a passenger air bag in that 91?
>
>Dick
>
>Dan Landiss wrote:
>
> > I think the HVAC blower motor in my 1991 560SEC has given up. Is the
> > procedure for getting it out about the same as my former 300TE, now
> > leading a life of luxury in Florida? Any hints and tips? Thanks!
> >
>
>
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>Message: 15
>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:09:44 -0700
>From: "Eddie"
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'"
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>Actually you can get nitrogen for your tires from Allen Tire (I think they
>bought out the Goodyear stores?).
>
>Eddie
>
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>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>On Behalf Of Dan Landiss
>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:28 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>
>Axel Wulff wrote:
> > I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their tires, but has anyone
> > any idea why helium was not considered?
>
>Molecules too small, leaks out quickly.
>
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>Message: 16
>Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:58:35 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Gary
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] (no subject)
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
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>hey dick i use off-the-shelf preston anti freeze is this bad? also the part 
>about the aux fans...i have an 88 sec...do the fans come on when i turn on 
>the a/c? and if not how do make that happen. i live in san diego, 
>california.
>
>Dick Spellman wrote: Hi Philip:
>
>Thermostat 83 C and replenish the anti-freeze with Zerex G05 or MB
>antifreeze only.
>Visco Fan Clutch
>Check your various belts and hoses at the same time
>Where you are in Boulder you could wire-up a relay for the aux fans to
>always be on when the AC is selected on the climate control.
>
>In any event, you likely need the tstat and visco fan clutch to resolve
>the overheating before you end up with bigger problems like head gasket
>etc. The above presumes you do not see coolant loss and/or you do not
>see bubbles in the coolant expansion tank with engine running, in other
>words the head gasket remains intact at this time. You can get a deal
>on parts from Jonathan or Rusty for the SEC.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dick
>
>PHILIP GERONIMO wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello, I just bought a 1987 560 SEC. It flirts with overheating, i.e.
> > during normal driving, no matter what conditions the temp gage climbs
> > to 120C and the red zone, and then the aux fan kicks in, in order of
> > frequency, what is the most likely cause? I need to prioritize my
> > spending. Thanks in advance for the help.
> >
> > Philip, Boulder CO
> >
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>Message: 17
>Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:21:58 +1000
>From: "Mark Addison"
>Subject: [W126 Coupe] wooden steering wheel for a 1989.
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>The Ebay item has no airbag facility.
>I could not trade off ascetics for safety.
>Just my thought.
>Mark Addison
>Australia
>'89 560SEC Aussie
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>Message: 18
>Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:28:13 -0400
>From: "Shayegan, Richard"
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"
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>I dunno, I'm a poli sci guy. I'm just sorta thinking it through. To get a 
>certain pressure you need a certain volume, so...so yeah I'm an idiot, by 
>being less dense it would have that same volume with less molecules 
>wouldn't it.
>
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>
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of David Fatovic
>Sent: Fri 6/2/2006 1:57 PM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>
>
>
>But if you are measuring the weight of two items of
>controlled size and one is less dense, wouldn't it
>weigh less then?
>
>David
>
>--- "Shayegan, Richard"
>wrote:
>
> > Cute, but wrong...I think. The air is simply less
> > dense at higher elevation, meaning that the air will
> > still weigh the same to make a given pressure, it'll
> > just take you longer to put
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of
> > Axel Wulff
> > Sent: Thu 6/1/2006 7:12 AM
> > To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> >
> >
> >
> > I like to go to the highest elevation in the Rocky
> > Mountains to change my
> > air.
> >
> > The fresh, non-polluted air extends tire life and is
> > gentler on the rubber
> > and, as everyone knows, the air is lighter at high
> > altitude so I save
> > weight.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Axel J. Wulff
> > 610-731-5453 Cellular
> > 610-572-4611 Home
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Dick Spellman
> > >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >
> > >To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >
> > >Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> > >Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 06:57:15 -0400
> > >
> > >Hey Bill. I am one step ahead of you. I already
> > replaced the winter air
> > >with spring air so the summer air is a no brainer.
> > >
> > >Dick
> > >
> > >Bill P. wrote:
> > >
> > >>Dick don't forget to change out the winter air for
> > summer air in since it
> > >>is
> > >>fairly close to the season!
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > >>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]On
> > >>Behalf Of Dick Spellman
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 23:10
> > >>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > >>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> > >>
> > >>Thanks Dan for the reassuring news. So, I'll
> > adjust for tomorrows run
> > >>40 front, 38 rear just to see how it handles. And
> > thanks Axel for the
> > >>tire rack confirmation.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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>Message: 19
>Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:46:46 -0400
>From: Dick Spellman
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] (no subject)
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
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>Hi Gary;
>
>The only two anti-freeze brands recommended for the Mercedes are Zerex
>G05 (hard to find and $12/gallon) and the MB antifreeze at the
>stealership (very pricey like$23/gallon).
>
>Stu Ritter at mercedeslist.com did a write-up on Mercedes that operate
>at high altitude or in year round warm climates like San Diego. You
>simply remove the two leads from the fan switch on the receiver dryer
>and wire them into a single pole form c relay (one to Common the other
>to N.O.)that accepts a 12 volt trigger. The 12 volt trigger is acquired
>from one of the 3 pins on the ac compressor clutch housing. You'll need
>a volt meter to confirm which one goes 12VDC positive when AC is
>selected on the climate control. I did this on one of my 300SE's
>operating a Nippondenso compressor so I can take a photo or two if that
>helps. I also used an ELK relay part # ELK-912 or if you prefer larger
>screw terminals ELK-912B found at www.elkproducts.com This relay coil
>is rated at 7amps 30VDC so it's more than adequate. I then wrapped it
>in self-seal foil to keep the moisture out. Ground for the relay coil
>is found at the radiator vertical support right next to the receiver
>dryer where you should see a MB ground point with many brown wires 
>attached.
>
>By the way since I did the relay wiring because I had a steady high temp
>while the AC was on (just shy of 120 C) with new tstat and visco
>clutch. Since I replaced the radiator there is no need for the relay
>wiring where I live near Boston, MA and on hot days the coolant temp now
>sits about 90 C. So, in my case it was the radiator failing after 110k
>miles or so. You should try and test the condition of your radiator
>with one of the IR temperature probes if you manage to get your hands on
>one. Then you can see if the radiator has any patches where it's
>blocked and therefore not providing the surface area that you need for
>complete cooling capacity.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dick
>
>Gary wrote:
>
> > hey dick i use off-the-shelf preston anti freeze is this bad?
> > also the part about the aux fans...i have an 88 sec...do the fans come
> > on when i turn on the a/c? and if not how do make that happen. i
> > live in san diego, california.
> >
> > */Dick Spellman /* wrote:
> >
> > Hi Philip:
> >
> > Thermostat 83 C and replenish the anti-freeze with Zerex G05 or MB
> > antifreeze only.
> > Visco Fan Clutch
> > Check your various belts and hoses at the same time
> > Where you are in Boulder you could wire-up a relay for the aux
> > fans to
> > always be on when the AC is selected on the climate control.
> >
> > In any event, you likely need the tstat and visco fan clutch to
> > resolve
> > the overheating before you end up with bigger problems like head
> > gasket
> > etc. The above presumes you do not see coolant loss and/or you do not
> > see bubbles in the coolant expansion tank with engine running, in
> > other
> > words the head gasket remains intact at this time. You can get a deal
> > on parts from Jonathan or Rusty for the SEC.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dick
> >
> > PHILIP GERONIMO wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello, I just bought a 1987 560 SEC. It flirts with overheating,
> > i.e.
> > > during normal driving, no matter what conditions the temp gage
> > climbs
> > > to 120C and the red zone, and then the aux fan kicks in, in
> > order of
> > > frequency, what is the most likely cause? I need to prioritize my
> > > spending. Thanks in advance for the help.
> > >
> > > Philip, Boulder CO
> > >
> > 
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>Message: 20
>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:34:47 -0700
>From: "Kenneth Delmar Hopkins"
>Subject: [W126 Coupe] vandalized yet again...need parts.
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>Message: 21
>Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:31:35 -0500
>From: Dan Landiss
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] AC Blower
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
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>Dick Spellman wrote:
> > Hi Dan:
> >
> > Do you have a passenger air bag in that 91?
>
>Guess so, no glovebox.
>
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>Message: 22
>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:38:24 -0400
>From: "Bill P."
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>To: "Robert Karl Stonjek" , "Mercedes Coupes
>Mailing Lists"
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>Oh sure be Mr. fancy pants and get the most expensive air going! ; )
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]On
>Behalf Of Robert Karl Stonjek
>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 07:51
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>
>I only use genuine Mercedes Benz air from an authorised dealer - no cheap
>generic air for me!!
>Robert
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