[W126 Coupe] third break light

Fri Aug 25 12:52:48 EDT 2006

Hi Michael,

On my CHMSL, there is a seal between the unit and the glass, it's just a
very soft rubber, and once everything is mounted right, it just lightly
presses against the glass.

There is a LOT of paperwork required to bring a car in.  Insurance and
registration can be a problem every time you renew.  In California, it is
virtually impossible because of smog regulations (lot's of BS stuff) and the
'safety' equipment being 'not-present'.

Edward

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On Behalf Of Micha? Wo?osiak
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] third break light

Hi Steve,

Many thanks for the great info. So, to sum up:

- what I need is the lamp and the mounting bracket plus a cable/plug

- the lamp is not glued to the window and there is no rubber seal

PS.1. Thanks for the offer, but it must be black ;-)

PS.2. I got power sunshade on my car. It's quite useful, and looks great :-)

PS.3. Did you removed the third break light just for the "style" reasons? If
the Euro SEC's are so worshipped in the USA, why so rarely does Americans
import these cars from Germany, Poland or whatever? Are there some high duty
taxes or another legal problems?

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From: Steve <mailto:stevenlemberg at sbcglobal.net>  Lemberg 

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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 7:51 PM

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] third break light

Michal,

The rear hat tray is the same for both US and Euro cars, it is also the same
for cars with the sun shade.    When you remove the tray and turn it over
you will see three or four, I don't recall holes in the tray that covered by
the fabric.    These are the holes to mount the high brake light bracket.
I know this from doing the reverse, I recovered my tray and deleted the
third brake light.    I also have a sun shade from a donor car that I will
get around to someday!     It also fits the on standard tray.    

I would offer you mine however it is tan, look for an assembly in the
Seattle area more days of cloud cover than anywhere else in the US = less
sun damage.    

Steve 

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From: Michał <mailto:michal.wolosiak at itme.edu.pl>  Wołosiak 

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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:15 AM

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] third break light

@Jason - thanks for the info

@Jonathan - I'll need to find someone parting out the SEC with black
interior, and we'll see what they have. But are you sure that the hat tray
is different in Euro and US cars? I've tried to find out at detali.ru, but
it seems to not cover the American models. :-/

PS. You see, in the USA - as I know - you like to 'europeize' your SEC's
(euro headlights, euro bumpers, etc.). Living here in Europe, on the other
hand, I'd be most happy if I could have some pure US-spec 560SEC, with all
the stuff like long bumpers, 'ugly' sealed beam headlights, different
headlight wipers, side markers, mph speedometer, 6-loudspeaker audio, auto
A/C etc. Third break light is one of such things, not to mention the safety
improvement.

Besides - it just looks nice to me :-)

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From: Jonathan Hodgman <mailto:jhodgman at gmail.com>  

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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:53 AM

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] third break light

I should have a good used mount..but finding the housing (especially the
rear removable part that allows bulb changes) in good used is going to be a
hard dig...they all get badly cooked/brittle w/ age.

IMHO I wouldn't even bother installing one..I'd wager the car looks Much
cleaner back there w/o the light installed.  I'd wager you'll also need an
additional harness and you'll have to modify the hat tray (Very expensive if
any mistakes are made). 

Jonathan

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From: mavris2 at comcast.net 

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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:36 AM

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] third break light

There is a mounting bracket that it slips on to as memory serves me. The
light slips on to the bracket.  So you will need this item to properly mount
it.  I would think if you ask around on here someone who is parting out a
car you can probably get the mount and light.  That is assuming the mount is
removable in an easy manner.  Its a tight space where the mount is to the
glass.  I only remember this because when they tinted my windows, the poor
guy cut his hand.  So, I do recall seeing a bracket there.      

Jason   

On 8/23/06, Michał Wołosiak <michal.wolosiak at itme.edu.pl> wrote: 

Hi guys,

I got some less-typical issue.

As my 560SEC is Euro version, it wasn't orginally equipped with third break
light, which could be found on US cars. I'm going to install that lamp by
myself, but definitely it has to be the original MB part from an American
SEC (not some aftermarket LED bar, etc.). :-)

I crawled through many, many pics of US SEC's but I found only a few with a
CHMSL visible.

What I know at the moment is, that the lamp itself is a thing like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-W124-W126-W201-Third-Brake-Light-BEI
GE_W0QQitemZ230020190295QQihZ013QQcategoryZ42613QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmd
ZViewItem

and looks to be mounted a few centimeters above the rear hat tray.

What else do I need to install the lamp? Was it somehow glued to the rear
window glass? If so, was there any rubber seal? Or maybe some mounting
bracket supporting the lamp from bottom?

Any help will be appreciated. It would be absolutely great if some of you
could take a few photos of the lamp on their US car, with details of
mounting visible.

Best regards from Poland,

Michal Wolosiak

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