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>   1. Danger at 100MPH? (Dorian Garson)
>   2. RE: Danger at 100MPH? (Mike R.)
>   3. "WHEELS" (duke jordan)
>   4. RE: Danger at 100MPH? (Barry Corno)
>   5. Re: Danger at 100MPH? (Jonathan Hodgman)
>   6. Thanks Clay (Mdefran at earthlink.net)
>   7. Fuel line replacement (Jack)
>   8. RE: Danger at 100MPH? (brucem105 at comcast.net)
>   9. Re: Danger at 100MPH? (David Fatovic)
>  10. RE: Danger at 100MPH? (Steve Nervig)
>  11. 245 km per hour (Kent Kihl)
>  12. Re: "WHEELS" (Doug Gavin)
>  13. caqncel sub please (jaycroix)
>  14. Re: caqncel sub please (Dan Landiss)
>  15. What tires for my 3-piece AMG wheel (Franco)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:24:13 -0700
> From: "Dorian Garson" <dorian_garson at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
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> After my first time out autocrossing this weekend, I'm hooked and looking
> for more Sunday fun!
>
> The local Benz dealer has an annual race track day.  I'd love to try it, 
> but
> I'm concerned about what's going to happen if I get my '89 560sec over
> 100MPH.
>
> I've read that the self-leveling rear suspension will drop down at speeds
> over 100MPH.  However, my car's lowered ~1.5" on shorter springs.  There's
> not much clearance left above the tires even when standing still.
>
> Will my rear tires hit the further-lowered wheel wells when the SLS kicks
> down at high speed?  How far does it drop?
>
> This isn't something I want to find out the hard way!
>
> BTW, my SEC is bone stock except for some cosmetics, the lowering springs,
> 18" AMG wheels + Pirelli p-zero tires.  I placed 3rd at the autocross 
> event,
> after an experienced competitor in an older, fully-race-prepared coupe and 
> a
> kid in a highly modified Integra.
>
> Thanks for your help, listers.
>
> [dorian] | sl107.com
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:32:15 -0700
> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway, with H&R
> lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
> 245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide through
> corners and full throttle accelerations.
>
> The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension will not
> "self lower".
>
> One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the track. My
> brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it was 
> about
> three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on slotted rotors.
> They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the front
> straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know I could
> pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>
> Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>
> Later,
> Mike R.
> (702) 494-8056
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Dorian Garson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:24 AM
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>
> After my first time out autocrossing this weekend, I'm hooked and looking
> for more Sunday fun!
>
> The local Benz dealer has an annual race track day.  I'd love to try it, 
> but
>
> I'm concerned about what's going to happen if I get my '89 560sec over
> 100MPH.
>
> I've read that the self-leveling rear suspension will drop down at speeds
> over 100MPH.  However, my car's lowered ~1.5" on shorter springs.  There's
> not much clearance left above the tires even when standing still.
>
> Will my rear tires hit the further-lowered wheel wells when the SLS kicks
> down at high speed?  How far does it drop?
>
> This isn't something I want to find out the hard way!
>
> BTW, my SEC is bone stock except for some cosmetics, the lowering springs,
> 18" AMG wheels + Pirelli p-zero tires.  I placed 3rd at the autocross 
> event,
>
> after an experienced competitor in an older, fully-race-prepared coupe and 
> a
>
> kid in a highly modified Integra.
>
> Thanks for your help, listers.
>
> [dorian] | sl107.com
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:28:55 -0400
> From: "duke jordan" <dupreej111 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] "WHEELS"
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> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:33:34 -0700
> From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
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> Ramay,
>    I visited the place you need to get involved with this weekend.
> Daryl Armstrong from Precision Brakes Co. in Ashland, OR. Is in the
> Process of getting me 13" rotors with 4 piston calibers for my 17"
> Wheels. His shop is Top notch and has done some wonder stuff.
> www.precisionbrakescompany.com
> The stock brake size on these SEC'S were not designed to do LAGUNA SECA
> at
> + 100 miles and hour. Remember you are trying to stop 2 tons not a 1 ton
> Race car.
>
> B.C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:32 AM
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>
> You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway, with
> H&R
> lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
> 245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide through
> corners and full throttle accelerations.
>
> The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension will
> not
> "self lower".
>
> One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the track. My
> brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it was
> about
> three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on slotted
> rotors.
> They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the front
> straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know I could
> pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>
> Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>
> Later,
> Mike R.
> (702) 494-8056
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:29:32 -0400
> From: "Jonathan Hodgman" <jhodgman at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> In my experience/to the best of my knowledge our cars don't lower..only 
> the
> one's w/ full hydromat will raise and lower @ speed.
>
> As for traveling over 100MPH you needn't worry..that's almost a daily
> occurrence over here...I always say it's not a proper day unless you hit 
> the
> ton!
>
> Enjoy your run and Good luck!
>
> Send us some photo's of you hammering around if you can:)
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On 8/9/06, Mike R. <mramay at att.biz> wrote:
>>
>> You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway, with H&R
>> lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
>> 245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide through
>> corners and full throttle accelerations.
>>
>> The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension will not
>> "self lower".
>>
>> One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the track. My
>> brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it was
>> about
>> three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on slotted 
>> rotors.
>> They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the front
>> straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know I could
>> pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>>
>> Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>>
>> Later,
>> Mike R.
>> (702) 494-8056
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Dorian Garson
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:24 AM
>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>>
>> After my first time out autocrossing this weekend, I'm hooked and looking
>> for more Sunday fun!
>>
>> The local Benz dealer has an annual race track day.  I'd love to try it,
>> but
>>
>> I'm concerned about what's going to happen if I get my '89 560sec over
>> 100MPH.
>>
>> I've read that the self-leveling rear suspension will drop down at speeds
>> over 100MPH.  However, my car's lowered ~1.5" on shorter springs. 
>> There's
>> not much clearance left above the tires even when standing still.
>>
>> Will my rear tires hit the further-lowered wheel wells when the SLS kicks
>> down at high speed?  How far does it drop?
>>
>> This isn't something I want to find out the hard way!
>>
>> BTW, my SEC is bone stock except for some cosmetics, the lowering 
>> springs,
>> 18" AMG wheels + Pirelli p-zero tires.  I placed 3rd at the autocross
>> event,
>>
>> after an experienced competitor in an older, fully-race-prepared coupe 
>> and
>> a
>>
>> kid in a highly modified Integra.
>>
>> Thanks for your help, listers.
>>
>> [dorian] | sl107.com
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to
>> get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
>>
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> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:38:27 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> From: "Mdefran at earthlink.net" <mdefran at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Thanks Clay
> To: mbcoupes <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Thanks for the kind words and understanding.
>
> Understand this though, I have an 84 SEC and damn near everything on the 
> 91 can be used on the 84. I still have an engine and transmission that 
> have approximately 118K on it that is in perfect operating condition. Also 
> this car has had some major work and upgrades done to it and it would be a 
> shame for all that effort to go to waste. The real question remaining is 
> how far do I want to go with it with the time I have available to me.
>
> Parts for these cars, as I have found out are very expensive and there are 
> a lot of bottom feeders out there. I am not trying to make a killing on 
> what people are looking for, but I am not going to give them away either 
> as my/our labor is worth something as well.
>
> Chat Later,
> Mark De Francisco
> Stealth SEC
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:44:03 -0700
> From: "Jack" <jwhoran at cox.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Fuel line replacement
> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Hi Everyone,
>
>
>
> A quick question hopefully. Does the gas tank have to be drained to 
> replace
> the threaded rubber fuel return line located above the fuel pumps and 
> below
> the gas tank?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!  Hate those gasoline showers.
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:49:58 +0000
> From: brucem105 at comcast.net
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> I would do a flull flush and then use Castrol SRF fluid. It is the best 
> stuff on earth, even better than Motul 600 or any other race fluid, 
> expensive and worth it. I'd also go with good race pads and rotors. If you 
> can direct air at the brakes via a hose or duct, even better.
>
> You can skimp and save on tires, suspension, etc and it will decrease your 
> speed around the track.
>
> But if you skimp and save on brakes, it will decrease your life 
> expectancy!
>
> As Barry says, this is two tons of metal at very high speeds. A few 
> "anchor-out" stops and your brakes are toast. I used to run a highly 
> modified Audi S4 at tracks all over the east coast. 380HP and 3900 lbs. 
> not a great combination for brakes, esepcially at tracks with long 
> straight and tight corners like Summit Point, VIR, and Watkins Glen. More 
> than once it was "underwear changing" time.
>
> So I upgraded to stainless steel lines all around, Castrol SRF fluid, 
> Porsche 993TT "Big Red" calipers up front on 13"+ drilled/slotted rotors, 
> and Pagid Orange pads. Problem solved. :)
>
> Bruce
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>
>
>> Ramay,
>> I visited the place you need to get involved with this weekend.
>> Daryl Armstrong from Precision Brakes Co. in Ashland, OR. Is in the
>> Process of getting me 13" rotors with 4 piston calibers for my 17"
>> Wheels. His shop is Top notch and has done some wonder stuff.
>> www.precisionbrakescompany.com
>> The stock brake size on these SEC'S were not designed to do LAGUNA SECA
>> at
>> + 100 miles and hour. Remember you are trying to stop 2 tons not a 1 ton
>> Race car.
>>
>> B.C.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:32 AM
>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>>
>> You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway, with
>> H&R
>> lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
>> 245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide through
>> corners and full throttle accelerations.
>>
>> The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension will
>> not
>> "self lower".
>>
>> One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the track. My
>> brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it was
>> about
>> three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on slotted
>> rotors.
>> They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the front
>> straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know I could
>> pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>>
>> Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>>
>> Later,
>> Mike R.
>> (702) 494-8056
>> The MB Coupes Website!
>> W126 SEC Mailing List
>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:01:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Fatovic <coloradocroat at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> I have had my 91 SEC (before being totalled) up to
> 130mph with no problem.  Same lowering as yours
>
> David
>
> --- Dorian Garson <dorian_garson at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> After my first time out autocrossing this weekend,
>> I'm hooked and looking
>> for more Sunday fun!
>>
>> The local Benz dealer has an annual race track day.
>> I'd love to try it, but
>> I'm concerned about what's going to happen if I get
>> my '89 560sec over
>> 100MPH.
>>
>> I've read that the self-leveling rear suspension
>> will drop down at speeds
>> over 100MPH.  However, my car's lowered ~1.5" on
>> shorter springs.  There's
>> not much clearance left above the tires even when
>> standing still.
>>
>> Will my rear tires hit the further-lowered wheel
>> wells when the SLS kicks
>> down at high speed?  How far does it drop?
>>
>> This isn't something I want to find out the hard
>> way!
>>
>> BTW, my SEC is bone stock except for some cosmetics,
>> the lowering springs,
>> 18" AMG wheels + Pirelli p-zero tires.  I placed 3rd
>> at the autocross event,
>> after an experienced competitor in an older,
>> fully-race-prepared coupe and a
>> kid in a highly modified Integra.
>>
>> Thanks for your help, listers.
>>
>> [dorian] | sl107.com
>>
>>
> _________________________________________________________________
>> On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events
>> for advice on how to
>> get there!
>>
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>>
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>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:13:54 -0700
> From: Steve Nervig <dakota at mac.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Barry, What do we need brakes for??!!
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 09, 2006, at 11:29AM, Barry Corno 
> <bc at unitedsalad.com> wrote:
>
>>Ramay,
>>    I visited the place you need to get involved with this weekend.
>>Daryl Armstrong from Precision Brakes Co. in Ashland, OR. Is in the
>>Process of getting me 13" rotors with 4 piston calibers for my 17"
>>Wheels. His shop is Top notch and has done some wonder stuff.
>>www.precisionbrakescompany.com
>>The stock brake size on these SEC'S were not designed to do LAGUNA SECA
>>at
>>+ 100 miles and hour. Remember you are trying to stop 2 tons not a 1 ton
>>Race car.
>>
>>B.C.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:32 AM
>>To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>>
>>You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway, with
>>H&R
>>lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
>>245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide through
>>corners and full throttle accelerations.
>>
>>The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension will
>>not
>>"self lower".
>>
>>One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the track. My
>>brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it was
>>about
>>three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on slotted
>>rotors.
>>They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the front
>>straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know I could
>>pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>>
>>Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>>
>>Later,
>>Mike R.
>>(702) 494-8056
>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 21:53:18 +0200
> From: "Kent Kihl" <kzkihl at netactive.co.za>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 245 km per hour
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> I had a 420 SEC (1986) some years ago, and on a drive from Nice in South 
> of
> France to Gothenburg in Sweden, on some of the motorways in Germany 245 km
> per hour was no problem and I didn't even knew that there was something 
> like
> lowering suspension.
>
> Kent Kihl
> 082 496 0914
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:08:56 -0500
> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] "WHEELS"
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> duke jordan wrote:
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>>     */  Hello ,/*
>>
>> */           Was wondering if  anyone out there  would be  interested/*
>>
>> */    in a set  of  18"  Lorinsers that I  have on my   380 sec../*
>>
>> */   I  have the  stock set  &  ws considering  putting them  back/*
>>
>> */   on.   Will  send pics., if  you might be interested....../*
>>
>> */      Also have the  18" x  40s w/ them.  Only  1,000 mi../*
>>
>> *//*
>> */                        THANKS,  /*
>> */                                         "DUKE"/*
>>
>>
>>
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     From:  /"Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>/
>>     Reply-To:  /Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>/
>>     To:  /"'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>/
>>     Subject:  /RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?/
>>     Date:  /Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:32:15 -0700/
>>     >You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway,
>>     with H&R
>>     >lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
>>     >245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide 
>> through
>>     >corners and full throttle accelerations.
>>     >
>>     >The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension
>>     will not
>>     >"self lower".
>>     >
>>     >One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the
>>     track. My
>>     >brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it
>>     was about
>>     >three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on
>>     slotted rotors.
>>     >They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the
>>     front
>>     >straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know
>>     I could
>>     >pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>>     >
>>     >Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>>     >
>>     >Later,
>>     >Mike R.
>>     >(702) 494-8056
>>     >-----Original Message-----
>>     >From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>     [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>     >On Behalf Of Dorian Garson
>>     >Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:24 AM
>>     >To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>     >Subject: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>>     >
>>     >After my first time out autocrossing this weekend, I'm hooked and
>>     looking
>>     >for more Sunday fun!
>>     >
>>     >The local Benz dealer has an annual race track day.  I'd love to
>>     try it, but
>>     >
>>     >I'm concerned about what's going to happen if I get my '89 560sec
>>     over
>>     >100MPH.
>>     >
>>     >I've read that the self-leveling rear suspension will drop down
>>     at speeds
>>     >over 100MPH.  However, my car's lowered ~1.5" on shorter
>>     springs.  There's
>>     >not much clearance left above the tires even when standing still.
>>     >
>>     >Will my rear tires hit the further-lowered wheel wells when the
>>     SLS kicks
>>     >down at high speed?  How far does it drop?
>>     >
>>     >This isn't something I want to find out the hard way!
>>     >
>>     >BTW, my SEC is bone stock except for some cosmetics, the lowering
>>     springs,
>>     >18" AMG wheels + Pirelli p-zero tires.  I placed 3rd at the
>>     autocross event,
>>     >
>>     >after an experienced competitor in an older, fully-race-prepared
>>     coupe and a
>>     >
>>     >kid in a highly modified Integra.
>>     >
>>     >Thanks for your help, listers.
>>     >
>>     >[dorian] | sl107.com
>>     >
>>     >_________________________________________________________________
>>     >On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice
>>     on how to
>>     >get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
>>     >
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> To Duke, What part of the world are you in? And, How much. By the wsy, I
> could not open the attachment. Probably operator error on this end.
>
> Doug
> Houston TX
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:06:17 +1000
> From: "jaycroix" <jaycroix at optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] caqncel sub please
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:44 AM
> Subject: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 22, Issue 5
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>
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>   1. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Henry Viveiros)
>>   2. Re: Climate Control Fuse ? (Paul Samarin)
>>   3. Re: Climate Control Fuse ? (Doug Gavin)
>>   4. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Mike R.)
>>   5. SEC W140 Sale (AudFats at aol.com)
>>   6. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Henry Viveiros)
>>   7. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Henry Viveiros)
>>   8. Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC a Gimmick?
>>      (Kivendren Moodliyar)
>>   9. RE: Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the 380SEC a Gimmick?
>>      (Mike R.)
>>  10. Re: Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC a
>>      Gimmick? (Jim Ham)
>>  11. MARK DeFRANCO (clay)
>>  12. Brake cleaner safety? (Shayegan, Richard)
>>  13. RE: Brake cleaner safety? (Eddie)
>>  14. RE: SEC W140 Sale (Gary Green)
>>  15. Body Question??? (Hovsep Dovlatian)
>>  16. RE: Body Question??? (Stephen .)
>>  17. Re: Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC aGimmick?
>>      (Vance Rowley)
>>  18. RE: Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the 380SEC aGimmick?
>>      (Kivendren Moodliyar)
>>  19. RE: Body Question??? (Kivendren Moodliyar)
>>  20. RE: Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SECaGimmick? (DW)
>>  21. 126 Dash Pad (Elm Zobens)
>>  22. RE: Body Question??? (Stephen .)
>>  23. Hood pad insulation installation (Doug Gavin)
>>  24. Off Topic (Stephen .)
>>  25. Re: Hood pad insulation installation (jralex at ix.netcom.com)
>>  26. Re: Off Topic (Dan Landiss)
>>  27. Re: Hood pad insulation installation (Doug Gavin)
>>  28. Re: Off Topic (Stephen .)
>>  29. Re: Off Topic (Dan Landiss)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:33:55 -0700
>> From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <DIEEJBPFJEBGDLPHLANAIEPMCNAA.henryviv at grantspass.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Well Mike, I popped the cover and found that the lead strip was partially
>> separated - not quite broken through, but certainly damaged. I suppose
>> I'll
>> have to wait until the dealership opens on Monday.
>>
>> How strange - the blowers work if the car is not too hot from being 
>> parked
>> in the sun, and after the windows are open for a while (just a few
>> minutes)
>> they will work again. I hope the blower fuse will solve the problem.
>>
>> Thanks again, Mike.
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:39:42 -0700
>> From: Paul Samarin <pauls at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>> I had an 86 560 SEC and had exactly the same problem (I don't have it
>> anymore, so I have to go by memory.)  There is a fuse outside of the
>> fuse box...I don't know if it's the blower fuse you guys are talking
>> about, because I don't know what it was called.  It was a strip of
>> metal not encased in plastic or anything...in other words, just a strip
>> of thin metal between two screws; and, mine was completely burnt away.
>> I theorized that the poor old a/c was working so hard in the excessive
>> heat, that it literally blew the fuse.  Anyway, if you're standing at
>> the driver's side fender looking at the fuse box, look just past it to
>> the vertical "wall" that is behind the engine but forward of the
>> firewall.  I think the fuse is under some sort of cover, but mine never
>> had the cover.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Paul Samarin
>> Whose 500 SL is not quite the car the SEC was, but it's fun nonetheless.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2006, at 7:33 PM, Henry Viveiros wrote:
>>
>>> Well Mike, I popped the cover and found that the lead strip was
>>> partially
>>> separated - not quite broken through, but certainly damaged. I suppose
>>> I'll
>>> have to wait until the dealership opens on Monday.
>>>
>>> How strange - the blowers work if the car is not too hot from being
>>> parked
>>> in the sun, and after the windows are open for a while (just a few
>>> minutes)
>>> they will work again. I hope the blower fuse will solve the problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Mike.
>>> <winmail.dat>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 01:34:48 -0500
>> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <44D58D88.3000102 at houston.rr.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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>> Paul Samarin wrote:
>>
>>> I had an 86 560 SEC and had exactly the same problem (I don't have it
>>> anymore, so I have to go by memory.)  There is a fuse outside of the
>>> fuse box...I don't know if it's the blower fuse you guys are talking
>>> about, because I don't know what it was called.  It was a strip of
>>> metal not encased in plastic or anything...in other words, just a
>>> strip of thin metal between two screws; and, mine was completely burnt
>>> away.  I theorized that the poor old a/c was working so hard in the
>>> excessive heat, that it literally blew the fuse.  Anyway, if you're
>>> standing at the driver's side fender looking at the fuse box, look
>>> just past it to the vertical "wall" that is behind the engine but
>>> forward of the firewall.  I think the fuse is under some sort of
>>> cover, but mine never had the cover.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Paul Samarin
>>> Whose 500 SL is not quite the car the SEC was, but it's fun nonetheless.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 5, 2006, at 7:33 PM, Henry Viveiros wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well Mike, I popped the cover and found that the lead strip was
>>>> partially
>>>> separated - not quite broken through, but certainly damaged. I
>>>> suppose I'll
>>>> have to wait until the dealership opens on Monday.
>>>>
>>>> How strange - the blowers work if the car is not too hot from being
>>>> parked
>>>> in the sun, and after the windows are open for a while (just a few
>>>> minutes)
>>>> they will work again. I hope the blower fuse will solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again, Mike.
>>>> <winmail.dat>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>>
>>>
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>> Just a thought guys on the metal strip. Could it be that the heat
>> escalation in the sun is sufficient enough to expand the metal in that
>> "fuse" and cause it to open or separate the circuit?  Ask someone to
>> help you with a little test. Turn on the ignition switch and  jump it
>> with a pair of alligator clips and a length of wire just to see if it
>> kicks on or use a hairpin and rubber handled pliers to hold it to
>> complete the circuit for a split second just to confirm? It might point
>> you in the right direction and.I don't think merely making the
>> connection for a split second will have any negative result or damage
>> any circuits. Good luck.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 06:18:20 -0700
>> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <20060806131829.08644120391 at mailwash11.pair.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Something about this fuse that it tends to blow on Friday evening, right
>> after the parts department closes.
>>
>> Anyway, I went to the local parts store and bought a 30 amp spade fuse
>> (U.S.
>> variety) and the socket for it with a short amount of wire. Removed the 
>> MB
>> metal fuse pieces and put the wires from the fuse socket under the screws
>> for the MB fuse. Put an MB fuse in a week or two later.
>>
>> Later,
>> Mike R.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 10:06:06 EDT
>> From: AudFats at aol.com
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] SEC W140 Sale
>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>> Message-ID: <bc8.1f25b66.3207514e at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Good morning Coupesters,
>> A little off topic here, yet I want to offer the group before the 
>> unwashed
>> public. We have some sheetmetal here that we need to clear out of
>> inventory. The
>> vehicle of question for this letter is a 1993 600 SEC. We've got the
>> records
>> (ouch) for this beast all the way back to the sticker. She's truly the 
>> top
>> of
>> the food chain. You wait for no body on the Interstate with this one. 
>> Very
>> nice ride with plenty of guts.
>> Feel free to contact me directly. I'll send photos and info. Car is
>> located
>> on the West Coast of Florida. (Clearwater)
>> I thank you all for your time.
>> Hopefully I'll be keeping the W126 through this little bump in life.
>>
>> Motor on.
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Paul Niesen
>> audfats at aol.com
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 07:41:15 -0700
>> From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <DIEEJBPFJEBGDLPHLANAGEPNCNAA.henryviv at grantspass.net>
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>>
>> Gee Whiz Paul - I hope you didn't get rid of the SEC just because the
>> blower
>> fuse went out !
>>
>> Hey Doug - I'll try jumping the fuse this afternoon (the car has to be
>> closed up and parked in the sun) and will let you know what happens.
>>
>> The fuse has to be replaced anyway. The metal (lead?) is much more soft
>> than
>> I would expect it to be. There was some material like the white fuzz that
>> sometimes develops at a battery post on one of the link attaching screws.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 07:43:37 -0700
>> From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <DIEEJBPFJEBGDLPHLANAAEPOCNAA.henryviv at grantspass.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Thanks Mike - I'll try that until I get the correct part.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:25:01 +0200
>> From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
>> a Gimmick?
>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <20060807122503.AC8BC3DAB at ctb-mesg4.saix.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
>> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
>> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
>> conventional suspension system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
>> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing the
>> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten 
>> the
>> Springs
>>
>> Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>>
>>
>>
>> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>
>>
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:15:15 -0700
>> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the
>> 380SEC a Gimmick?
>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <20060807151541.40BD41203C1 at mailwash11.pair.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> If you have an exceptionally hard ride in the back and your mechanic is
>> telling you that you need to new rear shocks, there are two things you
>> need
>> to do immediately:
>>
>> 1. fire the mechanic, he has no idea what he's doing.
>> 2. replace the self-leveling hydraulic accumulators under the back of
>> the car (~$120 each), a DIY job. While you're at it, replace the rubber
>> bushings on the top of the rear hydraulic rams (the shock absorber 
>> looking
>> things).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D
>> <http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D&dr
>> illid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsguru
>>>
>> &drillid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsg
>> uru
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Later,
>>
>> Mike R.
>>
>> (702) 494-8056
>>
>>  _____
>>
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Kivendren Moodliyar
>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:25 AM
>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
>> aGimmick?
>>
>>
>>
>> This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
>> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
>> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
>> conventional suspension system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
>> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing the
>> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten 
>> the
>> Springs
>>
>> Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>>
>>
>>
>> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>
>>
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 09:31:44 -0700
>> From: Jim Ham <jimham at porcine.com>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the
>> 380SEC a Gimmick?
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060807092544.01ad7850 at porcine.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>
>> Why do you think you need new "shocks"? As Mike says, the things that 
>> look
>> like shocks are not in the Mercedes system. Even the Mercedes manual
>> states
>> that seepage from the rams is normal. I personally wouldn't consider
>> replacing them unless they are dripping on the floor of the garage.
>> Remember that in a real shock you have only a few CCs of fluid placed in
>> there by the factory - once leaked out it's gone. With your rams you have
>> all the fluid in the hydraulic reservoir to replenish any seepage.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jim Ham
>>
>> At 05:25 AM 8/7/2006, you wrote:
>>
>>>This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
>>>shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
>>>proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
>>>conventional suspension system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
>>>please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing the
>>>car at all times regardless of the Load.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten 
>>>the
>>>Springs
>>>
>>>Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>>
>>>
>>>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>
>> Porcine Associates
>> +1.650.326.2669
>> www.porcine.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:37:58 -0700
>> From: "clay" <benzman3 at cox.net>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] MARK DeFRANCO
>> To: "mbcoupes" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <001101c6ba58$fd4f0320$c6d86844 at clayton>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Mark,
>> Recieved part on saturday, thanks for taking care of me. I understand
>> there could be problems with the car in Las Vegas and you in San
>> Francisco, that's alot of traveling just to strip a car.
>> Regards, Clay
>>
>>
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:23:50 -0400
>> From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Brake cleaner safety?
>> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Can it be safely assumed that all parts in the area of the brakes (such 
>> as
>> the speed sensors for the ABS) can be safely cleaned with brake parts
>> cleaner?
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:19:47 -0700
>> From: "Eddie" <cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Brake cleaner safety?
>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV11FB1D3C6F9AD5B737F048BD540 at phx.gbl>
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>> Avoid the brake lines, rims/tires, and overspray onto the body and
>> wheelwells.
>>
>> Eddie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:24 PM
>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Brake cleaner safety?
>>
>>
>> Can it be safely assumed that all parts in the area of the brakes (such 
>> as
>> the speed sensors for the ABS) can be safely cleaned with brake parts
>> cleaner?
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> The MB Coupes Website!
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>>
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>> Message: 14
>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:25:19 -0400
>> From: "Gary Green" <Gary at EverGreen-Systems.COM>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] SEC W140 Sale
>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <000c01c6ba81$217c2750$6801a8c0 at D6LJYC61>
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>>
>> Would you care to share the particulars?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you wish, you can email me offline.
>>
>>
>>
>>  _____
>>
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>> On Behalf Of AudFats at aol.com
>> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:06 AM
>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] SEC W140 Sale
>>
>>
>>
>> Good morning Coupesters,
>> A little off topic here, yet I want to offer the group before the 
>> unwashed
>> public. We have some sheetmetal here that we need to clear out of
>> inventory.
>> The vehicle of question for this letter is a 1993 600 SEC. We've got the
>> records (ouch) for this beast all the way back to the sticker. She's 
>> truly
>> the top of the food chain. You wait for no body on the Interstate with
>> this
>> one. Very nice ride with plenty of guts.
>> Feel free to contact me directly. I'll send photos and info. Car is
>> located
>> on the West Coast of Florida. (Clearwater)
>> I thank you all for your time.
>> Hopefully I'll be keeping the W126 through this little bump in life.
>>
>> Motor on.
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Paul Niesen
>> audfats at aol.com
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>> Message: 15
>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:14:25 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Hovsep Dovlatian <hovsepdov at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>> To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>> Message-ID: <20060808041425.88684.qmail at web37705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>> Hey guys just a  quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
>> fit on an
>> 84 Euro 500SEC???
>>
>>
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>> Message: 16
>> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:58:29 -0700
>> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>> Message-ID: <BAY20-F18F2F39B66F54B71884412A4540 at phx.gbl>
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>> yes
>>
>>
>>>From: Hovsep Dovlatian <hovsepdov at yahoo.com>
>>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:14:25 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>Hey guys just a  quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
>>>fit
>>>on an
>>>84 Euro 500SEC???
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>> Message: 17
>> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 07:42:54 +0100
>> From: "Vance Rowley" <vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the
>> 380SEC aGimmick?
>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <003a01c6bab5$e10cfed0$4101a8c0 at toshibauser>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> The SLS system a Gimmick? I can say with absolute confidence and
>> experience, absolutely not. In fact I can attest to what a superb and
>> practical system it actually is. Especially after driving from Greece to
>> the UK in my 1991 Euro 560 SEC a few years back. The car was loaded up to
>> the hilt. The trunk completely full to the brim and the back passenger
>> well and seats loaded up with just enough room for view through the rear
>> screen. In fact even the front passenger well and seat was loaded up as
>> well with just enough room for me behind the steering wheel. Not only did
>> the system allow to drive at 160MPH on the German autobahns with the car
>> being completely level, but it was as smooth as silk with great handling.
>>
>> However I can understand what you are experiencing if you are getting a
>> rough ride from the rear at the moment, as I had exactly the same 
>> symptoms
>> about 3 months before my long journey.It was worse than driving on a
>> cobbled road and as hard as a rock (from the rear only). It turned out
>> that all it was, was the "bombs" as they are nicknamed needed
>> replacing.From your description, it sounds to me like you have the same
>> problem. It was a cheap and quick job and after these were replaced it 
>> was
>> like riding on air again. So as to your comment on the SLS system giving 
>> a
>> harder ride is concerned, I would say absolutely not and would strongly
>> advise not to remove the SLS or modify the rear suspension system in any
>> way. Just have the "bombs" replaced. You will find the difference is like
>> chalk and cheese. I had mine done at a MB agent in Greece, but if you are
>> a DIYer, I think there is a write up somewhere in the archives.
>>
>> I hope this sways you to make the right decision.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Vance.
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Kivendren Moodliyar
>>  To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>>  Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:25 PM
>>  Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
>> aGimmick?
>>
>>
>>  This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
>> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
>> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
>> conventional suspension system.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
>> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing the
>> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten
>> the Springs
>>
>>  Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>>
>>
>>
>>  Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 18
>> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:24:04 +0200
>> From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the
>> 380SEC aGimmick?
>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <20060808082440.155B82A0B at ctb-mesg7.saix.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Ha ha ha.. That was funny.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike, this Mechanic helped sort out my idling by completely modyfying the
>> idling valve in the Engine with a screw that we can adjust. This seemed 
>> to
>> help the car from that rough idle as well as stalling.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the Mech wanted to go for the Normal Shock Absorbers & tighten 
>> the
>> springs due the factr that new shock on this car is so expensive. No you
>> telling me about the self levelling hydraulic accumulators under the back
>> of
>> t car. The mech also made mention that we have to change the rear bush
>> mountings.
>>
>>
>>
>> Whats the difference between the SLS hydraulic shocks and the hydraulic
>> accumulators?
>>
>> And
>>
>> Is this rear bushes the same as the rubber bushings you made mention of 
>> in
>> the e-mail below? Cos if it is this is going to cost R2000 from MB, for
>> the
>> kit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there some sort of way we can test the rear suspension and check why I
>> am
>> losing the hydraulic fluid (not forgetting the leaking hydraulic fluid
>> container) as well as test to see all other rear suspension parts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ever so grateful
>>
>>
>>
>> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>
>>  _____
>>
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Mike R.
>> Sent: 07 August 2006 05:15 PM
>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the 380SEC
>> aGimmick?
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have an exceptionally hard ride in the back and your mechanic is
>> telling you that you need to new rear shocks, there are two things you
>> need
>> to do immediately:
>>
>> 1. fire the mechanic, he has no idea what he's doing.
>> 2. replace the self-leveling hydraulic accumulators under the back of
>> the car (~$120 each), a DIY job. While you're at it, replace the rubber
>> bushings on the top of the rear hydraulic rams (the shock absorber 
>> looking
>> things).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D
>> <http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D&dr
>> illid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsguru
>>>
>> &drillid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsg
>> uru
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Later,
>>
>> Mike R.
>>
>> (702) 494-8056
>>
>>  _____
>>
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Kivendren Moodliyar
>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:25 AM
>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
>> aGimmick?
>>
>>
>>
>> This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
>> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
>> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
>> conventional suspension system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
>> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing the
>> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten 
>> the
>> Springs
>>
>> Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>>
>>
>>
>> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>
>>
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>> Message: 19
>> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:32:19 +0200
>> From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <20060808083227.6546E23BC at ctb-mesg3.saix.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Im sure the Grill will fit, not sure about the Fenders though
>>
>>
>>
>> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>
>>  _____
>>
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Hovsep Dovlatian
>> Sent: 08 August 2006 06:14 AM
>> To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey guys just a  quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
>> fit
>> on an
>> 84 Euro 500SEC???
>>
>>
>>
>>  _____
>>
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>> Message: 20
>> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:09:23 -0500
>> From: "DW" <dwgriff at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the
>> 380SECaGimmick?
>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <002901c6bb3f$b06cec60$210110ac at DANAWANA>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Definitely not a gimmick.  But remember, on your car he actually has
>> leveling on all four wheels!  Here in the States most everyone has
>> experience with rear-leveling only.  I agree that it is probably the
>> bombs,
>> (of which there are four!), but don't jump to conclusions about your
>> mechanic.   He might know more about this than most Americans.  I
>> understand
>> that this was a very rare option on the US spec cars.  Tell me, does 
>> yours
>> have the pull-knob next to the headlamp switch?  And the corresponding
>> dash
>> indicator?
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>> Message: 21
>> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:35:32 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Elm Zobens <elm at ameritech.net>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 126 Dash Pad
>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>> Message-ID: <20060809023532.42466.qmail at web81613.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hello,
>> I just purchased a used dash pad for my 86' 560 SEC. Of course I should
>> have asked this sooner but will a dash pad from a 91' (air bag) fit an 
>> 86'
>> (glove box) without major surgery?
>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>> Thanks!
>> Elm Zobens
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>> Message: 22
>> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:42:51 -0700
>> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>> Message-ID: <BAY20-F20D2CC488C953DAD337B5DA4550 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>>
>> The fenders will fit also.
>>
>>
>>>From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
>>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>>To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:32:19 +0200
>>>
>>>Im sure the Grill will fit, not sure about the Fenders though
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>>
>>>   _____
>>>
>>>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 
>>>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>>On Behalf Of Hovsep Dovlatian
>>>Sent: 08 August 2006 06:14 AM
>>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hey guys just a  quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
>>>fit
>>>on an
>>>84 Euro 500SEC???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   _____
>>>
>>>Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make
>>><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman1/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt
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>>
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>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 22:13:39 -0500
>> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>> To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>> Message-ID: <44D952E3.4060708 at houston.rr.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Hi all, I just received my new *Hood Insulation* for my 560. I expected
>> some installation instructions in regard to the proper adhesive but none
>> included. Can anyone suggest a tried and true adhesive that they have
>> used for the foam waffle pad? Thanks
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 24
>> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:14:17 -0700
>> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>> Message-ID: <BAY20-F13CD4E12BBC988216F544BA4550 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>>
>>
>> My wife has a 300E 1987.  Shes getting all shirty about the radio not
>> working (Becker).  I have a Blauplunkt to replace it but can't figure how
>> to
>> get the radio out.
>>
>> No problem with the SEC, have had the radio and climate control module 
>> out
>> a
>> few times.  Anyone had experience with a 300E?  or a site similar to this
>> mbcoupes that deals with these cars?
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Play Q6 for your chance to WIN great prizes.
>> http://q6trivia.imagine-live.com/enca/landing
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 25
>> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 02:55:04 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: jralex at ix.netcom.com
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <6606816.1155106504963.JavaMail.root at elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Doug, Use 3M #08088 General Trim Adhesive for the hood pad. I bought mine
>> at Advance Auto. This is what my MB mechanic uses also. Go to
>> mbcoupes.com, W126,archives,search engine and type hood pad for past
>> discussions and help with tecniques. Jim Alexander
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>>>Sent: Aug 8, 2006 11:13 PM
>>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>>>
>>>Hi all, I just received my new *Hood Insulation* for my 560. I expected
>>>some installation instructions in regard to the proper adhesive but none
>>>included. Can anyone suggest a tried and true adhesive that they have
>>>used for the foam waffle pad? Thanks
>>>
>>>Doug
>>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 26
>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:15:09 -0500
>> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <44D9DFDD.6040101 at landiss.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> on 8/9/2006 1:14 AM Stephen . wrote:
>>>
>>> My wife has a 300E 1987.  Shes getting all shirty about the radio not
>>> working (Becker).  I have a Blauplunkt to replace it but can't figure
>>> how to get the radio out.
>>
>> <http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/213/45/>
>>
>> <http://www.shareamemory.com/radio/removal.htm>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>>   -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>   "Never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy
>>   or predatory poverty."                          --Joseph Pulitzer
>>   -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 27
>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:26:20 -0500
>> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>> To: jralex at ix.netcom.com, Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>> <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <44D9FE9C.9090503 at houston.rr.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> jralex at ix.netcom.com wrote:
>>
>>>Doug, Use 3M #08088 General Trim Adhesive for the hood pad. I bought mine
>>>at Advance Auto. This is what my MB mechanic uses also. Go to
>>>mbcoupes.com, W126,archives,search engine and type hood pad for past
>>>discussions and help with tecniques. Jim Alexander
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>>>>Sent: Aug 8, 2006 11:13 PM
>>>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>>>>
>>>>Hi all, I just received my new *Hood Insulation* for my 560. I expected
>>>>some installation instructions in regard to the proper adhesive but none
>>>>included. Can anyone suggest a tried and true adhesive that they have
>>>>used for the foam waffle pad? Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Doug
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>> Jim, thanks for the advice and the part number. This is an excellent
>> forum and I appreciate what I've learned in just the last two weeks from
>> the members.
>>
>> Doug
>>
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>> Message: 28
>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:33:16 -0700
>> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>> Message-ID: <BAY20-F12616CD3442CAB40FF3339A4550 at phx.gbl>
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>> Thanks Dan, but these radios don't appear to have the same clips or holes
>> in
>> the radio face for releasing them.  The radio in the 300E is identical to
>> the one in my 380SEC.  What am I missing?
>>
>>
>>>From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
>>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
>>>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:15:09 -0500
>>>
>>>on 8/9/2006 1:14 AM Stephen . wrote:
>>>>
>>>>My wife has a 300E 1987.  Shes getting all shirty about the radio not
>>>>working (Becker).  I have a Blauplunkt to replace it but can't figure 
>>>>how
>>>>to get the radio out.
>>>
>>><http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/213/45/>
>>>
>>><http://www.shareamemory.com/radio/removal.htm>
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 29
>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:44:07 -0500
>> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <44DA10D7.9080901 at landiss.com>
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>> on 8/9/2006 11:33 AM Stephen . wrote:
>>> Thanks Dan, but these radios don't appear to have the same clips or
>>> holes in the radio face for releasing them.  The radio in the 300E is
>>> identical to the one in my 380SEC.  What am I missing?
>>
>> Maybe yours uses tools shaped like these:
>>
>> <http://www.tss-radio.com/mercedes-audi-radio-removal-tools-p-316.html>
>> <http://www.addacdchanger.co.uk/Mercedes_Radio_Removal_Tool>
>> <http://www.pro-fit-intl.com/mercedes.html>
>> <http://www.sirius-radio-satellite.com/browseproducts/Radio-Removal-Tools-for-Mercedes-and-Audi.HTML>
>>
>> The last link sells them for $7.50/pair, or you could try making your
>> own. Or a local shop might remove it for a six-pack of beer?
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:06:35 -0700
> From: "Franco" <dusktilldawn at cox.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] What tires for my 3-piece AMG wheel
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