[W126 Coupe] RE:Digest, Vol 11, Issue 5

drmet at pacbell.net drmet at pacbell.net
Tue Sep 6 01:11:11 EDT 2005


SEC-AHOLICS,

I wish to ask you your thoughts about changing the interior of my SEC.

I have 2 white SEC's one with grey interior and the other with the vomitous,
typical and most boring baby poop beige.  Am I being a moron?  Going through
the transfer I am concerned about the door edge seals (with the cloth).  

Considering they are $2,200 a pair!  I do not wish to have an air leak
(especially when I travel to Las Vegas at 130 MPH!) that will drive me nuts.

Does it make any sense to have the headliner and the seals dyed?  Instead of
transplanting them and facing a myriad of problems would dying them be best?

Please let me know.

Sincerely,

Doc

P.S. our brother member Mike R. is one of if not the best club member I
know.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Diesel (Ronny)
   2. Re: Favorite car (Nathan Goodlet)
   3. RE: Favorite car (Richard Hogarth)
   4. Re: OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD (RICHARD JAFFE)
   5. RE: OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD (Mike R.)
   6. RE: OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD
      (Shayegan, Richard)
   7. RE: OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD
      (Shayegan, Richard)
   8. message seats (Hovsep Dovlatian)
   9. Re: OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD
      (Nathan Goodlet)
  10. Re: OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD (David Barclay)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:18:42 -0700
From: "Ronny" <ronny.geenen at verizon.net>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Diesel
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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I have also the 1984 300 SD and it is really a work horse. I bought it from
a doctor late 1987 for $25,000 with 52,000 miles.

Today the car has close to 290,000 miles. I had the timing chain and valve
job done at about 188,000 miles and the tranny at 220,000 miles.

Today I drive most of the time 560 SEC and once every 14 days the diesel. It
never refuse to start,

I heard the best diesels are the ones after 2000. They are as quiet as the
gas engines and as fast also. That engineering is so well done, that they do
not need a turbo.

 

 

Ronny Geenen
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 13:33:05 -0500
From: "Nathan Goodlet" <nathang at texoma.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Favorite car
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"..Diesel Rabbit.."

I had a friend who had one, felt it was his environmental duty to drive it 
as much as possible, because it leaked oil faster when it was sitting still 
then when it was running, it eventually got so tired in the rings, that he 
could not shut it off. Even though he could shut off the flow of fuel, the 
oil fumes/oil mist from the crankcase got past the rings in sufficient 
quantity to keep the engine running..






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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:28:23 -0600
From: "Richard Hogarth" <R_Hogarth at Foundrycove.com>
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Favorite car
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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My diesel rabbit never burned a drop and had great compression up until the
cast block cracked
between a water jacket and head bolt. 
-RH


 

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On Behalf Of Nathan Goodlet
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 1:33 PM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Favorite car

"..Diesel Rabbit.."

I had a friend who had one, felt it was his environmental duty to drive it
as much as possible, because it leaked oil faster when it was sitting still
then when it was running, it eventually got so tired in the rings, that he
could not shut it off. Even though he could shut off the flow of fuel, the
oil fumes/oil mist from the crankcase got past the rings in sufficient
quantity to keep the engine running..




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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:17:57 -0400
From: "RICHARD JAFFE" <RSJAFFE at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS
	350SD
To: <figstir at yahoo.com>,	"Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"
	<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Hi guys,

I went over to my friendly local MBZ dealer to see what he had on the used
lot in diesel. Lots of late model S, M and C class, but no diesel. So I
wandered into the new car showroom to look around, and lo and behold, MB now
sells an E class 320 TDI (2005 and 2006 MY) common rail direct injection
diesel. 201 HP with 369 lb-ft of torque coming on at 1800 rpm. 0-60 in 6.6
sec! 27 mpg city 37 mpg hwy. The literature say the car can cruise up to 780
miles on a single tank. Bad news is MSRP between $52 and $55K If this thing
were $10K cheaper I'd seriously consider it.

Asking prices for very good condition 126, 123 and 124 chassis diesels have
gone up quite a bit recently - between $5K and $8k. The $2K - $4K cars are
pretty beat up and worn out. I looked at a really nice clean 83 300SD w/174K
miles -  everything works, great paint and interior, clean carfax. Seller
wants $7,250.00!! Jeez. I figured this car would be worth $5K max, using KBB
valuation data as a guide.

Rich Jaffe
----- Original Message -----
From: a figment of the imagination
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 11:26 AM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD


Hi!

My only comments regarding diesels follow.  First, I
think diesels are great engines (especially
Mercedes-Benz) and, if tuned right, can accelerate and
out-run some gas engines.  I say this because a friend
of mine tunes Mercedes-Benz diesel engines and owns a
300 CD.  His car was so fast that it out-accelerated
my 380 SEC and probably could keep up with my G35
(ouch).   Watching his car take off made me feel flat,
but, hey, I am glad that he helped turn me onto diesel
engines.

Second, diesels have great fuel economy, especially
within city traffic, where they can run at higher
gears and burn up 50% less fuel than a gas engine.   

Third, they can propel you at higher torques and allow
you to "pull" heavier loads, better than regular gas
engines. Indeed, they provide grossly equivalent power
at the same or lower rpms as a gas engine would.  For
instance, quoting from Robert Bentley's Rabbit diesel
manual, "the 1981 diesel is rated at 40 kWatts (52
horsepower SAE Net) at 4800 rpm, compared to 57 kWatts
(74 horsepower at 5000 rpm) for the 1981
spark-ignition engine.  This enables the diesel to
propel the lightweight Rabbit to a top speed well
above the legal limit, with acceleration akin to that
of a spark-ignition engine."   [While I don't fully
understand this logic, I think the author means that
diesel engines give you a 'good' amount of power at
lower rpms than a gas engine would....but someone else
can help explain this.]  


Fourth, most people are ignorant (including myself)
about the diesel engines and as result, shy away from
them, especially when it comes to repair.  The truth
is that they are actually *EASIER* work on and are
*SIMPLER* than most gasoline engines.  Diesel engines
don't have the complication of spark ignition, spark
plugs, breaker points, condenser, ignition cables,
distributor rotor, and other components that have to
replaced over the lifetime of the vehicle.  Each of
these components magnifies the number of potential
problems that a gasoline engine can have and that can
go wrong and be a nightmare (as it was for me with my
SEC on Friday the 13th, during the heavy downpour].   

Fifth, diesel engines are more economical to own and
maintain because of not only the fuel economy but also
by the fact they don't have a carburetor (older cars)
or emission controls to service periodically to meet
inspection requirements.  At $2.97 per gallon of gas,
you can get 2-3 times the distance. That's simple
math.  (It is too bad that it's actually cheaper to
refine diesel and that they charge more for diesel to
the point it is equivalent with lighter, more refined
gasoline than is reasonably justified.]

It is a myth that diesels are intolerably slow
automobiles; those cars are actually not tuned right!  
MBZ diesels are as amazing as VW diesels, when they
have been serviced correctly.

I hope this helps.   

Cheers.

-figmented on diesel power

I just purchased and had delivered (thankfully) the
first 2006 VW Beetle TDI (Turbo Diesel Injection) in
my state.  Woo hoo.  (These guys don't even make it to
the lot before they are sold out).  I also just got
done fixing up our 1981 Rabbit diesel and sold it for
4 times its previous worth.  Both cars get 45/55
(city/highway) mpg, easy.  Trust me, diesel engines
are a lot simpler to work on than regular gas engines;
it is a tragedy that most mechanics do not know this
fact, but use an incorrect (ignorant) cliche that they
are actually more complicated to work on.  

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:38:42 -0700
From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS
	350SD
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <200509052138.j85LcfeC022157 at radserv.lasvegas.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I helped import one of those E320TDI's about two years ago - marvelous car!!
The guy paid under $35K for it and it drove like a V8. Silent and FAST. 

 

Later,

Mike R.

 

  _____  

From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of RICHARD JAFFE
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:18 PM
To: figstir at yahoo.com; Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD

 

Hi guys,

 

I went over to my friendly local MBZ dealer to see what he had on the used
lot in diesel. Lots of late model S, M and C class, but no diesel. So I
wandered into the new car showroom to look around, and lo and behold, MB now
sells an E class 320 TDI (2005 and 2006 MY) common rail direct injection
diesel. 201 HP with 369 lb-ft of torque coming on at 1800 rpm. 0-60 in 6.6
sec! 27 mpg city 37 mpg hwy. The literature say the car can cruise up to 780
miles on a single tank. Bad news is MSRP between $52 and $55K. If this thing
were $10K cheaper I'd seriously consider it.

 

Asking prices for very good condition 126, 123 and 124 chassis diesels have
gone up quite a bit recently - between $5K and $8k. The $2K - $4K cars are
pretty beat up and worn out. I looked at a really nice clean 83 300SD w/174K
miles -  everything works, great paint and interior, clean carfax. Seller
wants $7,250.00!! Jeez. I figured this car would be worth $5K max, using KBB
valuation data as a guide.

 

Rich Jaffe

----- Original Message -----

From: a figment of the imagination

Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 11:26 AM

To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD

 


Hi!

My only comments regarding diesels follow.  First, I
think diesels are great engines (especially
Mercedes-Benz) and, if tuned right, can accelerate and
out-run some gas engines.  I say this because a friend
of mine tunes Mercedes-Benz diesel engines and owns a
300 CD.  His car was so fast that it out-accelerated
my 380 SEC and probably could keep up with my G35
(ouch).   Watching his car take off made me feel flat,
but, hey, I am glad that he helped turn me onto diesel
engines.

Second, diesels have great fuel economy, especially
within city traffic, where they can run at higher
gears and burn up 50% less fuel than a gas engine.  

Third, they can propel you at higher torques and allow
you to "pull" heavier loads, better than regular gas
engines. Indeed, they provide grossly equivalent power
at the same or lower rpms as a gas engine would.  For
instance, quoting from Robert Bentley's Rabbit diesel
manual, "the 1981 diesel is rated at 40 kWatts (52
horsepower SAE Net) at 4800 rpm, compared to 57 kWatts
(74 horsepower at 5000 rpm) for the 1981
spark-ignition engine.  This enables the diesel to
propel the lightweight Rabbit to a top speed well
above the legal limit, with acceleration akin to that
of a spark-ignition engine."   [While I don't fully
understand this logic, I think the author means that
diesel engines give you a 'good' amount of power at
lower rpms than a gas engine would....but someone else
can help explain this.] 


Fourth, most people are ignorant (including myself)
about the diesel engines and as result, shy away from
them, especially when it comes to repair.  The truth
is that they are actually *EASIER* work on and are
*SIMPLER* than most gasoline engines.  Diesel engines
don't have the complication of spark ignition, spark
plugs, breaker points, condenser, ignition cables,
distributor rotor, and other components that have to
replaced over the lifetime of the vehicle.  Each of
these components magnifies the number of potential
problems that a gasoline engine can have and that can
go wrong and be a nightmare (as it was for me with my
SEC on Friday the 13th, during the heavy downpour].  

Fifth, diesel engines are more economical to own and
maintain because of not only the fuel economy but also
by the fact they don't have a carburetor (older cars)
or emission controls to service periodically to meet
inspection requirements.  At $2.97 per gallon of gas,
you can get 2-3 times the distance. That's simple
math.  (It is too bad that it's actually cheaper to
refine diesel and that they charge more for diesel to
the point it is equivalent with lighter, more refined
gasoline than is reasonably justified.]

It is a myth that diesels are intolerably slow
automobiles; those cars are actually not tuned right! 
MBZ diesels are as amazing as VW diesels, when they
have been serviced correctly.

I hope this helps.  

Cheers.

-figmented on diesel power

I just purchased and had delivered (thankfully) the
first 2006 VW Beetle TDI (Turbo Diesel Injection) in
my state.  Woo hoo.  (These guys don't even make it to
the lot before they are sold out).  I also just got
done fixing up our 1981 Rabbit diesel and sold it for
4 times its previous worth.  Both cars get 45/55
(city/highway) mpg, easy.  Trust me, diesel engines
are a lot simpler to work on than regular gas engines;
it is a tragedy that most mechanics do not know this
fact, but use an incorrect (ignorant) cliche that they
are actually more complicated to work on. 

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:49:18 -0400
From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS
	350SD
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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KBB values are worthless for older cars. NADA is closer, but sometimes
they overshoot a little bit.
Richard

 

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From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD JAFFE
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 5:18 PM
To: figstir at yahoo.com; Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD

 

Hi guys,

 

I went over to my friendly local MBZ dealer to see what he had on the
used lot in diesel. Lots of late model S, M and C class, but no diesel.
So I wandered into the new car showroom to look around, and lo and
behold, MB now sells an E class 320 TDI (2005 and 2006 MY) common rail
direct injection  diesel. 201 HP with 369 lb-ft of torque coming on at
1800 rpm. 0-60 in 6.6 sec! 27 mpg city 37 mpg hwy. The literature say
the car can cruise up to 780 miles on a single tank. Bad news is MSRP
between $52 and $55K. If this thing were $10K cheaper I'd seriously
consider it.

 

Asking prices for very good condition 126, 123 and 124 chassis diesels
have gone up quite a bit recently - between $5K and $8k. The $2K - $4K
cars are pretty beat up and worn out. I looked at a really nice clean 83
300SD w/174K miles -  everything works, great paint and interior, clean
carfax. Seller wants $7,250.00!! Jeez. I figured this car would be worth
$5K max, using KBB valuation data as a guide.

 

Rich Jaffe

	----- Original Message -----

	From: a figment of the imagination

	Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 11:26 AM

	To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

	Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD
VS 350SD

	 

	
	Hi!
	
	My only comments regarding diesels follow.  First, I
	think diesels are great engines (especially
	Mercedes-Benz) and, if tuned right, can accelerate and
	out-run some gas engines.  I say this because a friend
	of mine tunes Mercedes-Benz diesel engines and owns a
	300 CD.  His car was so fast that it out-accelerated
	my 380 SEC and probably could keep up with my G35
	(ouch).   Watching his car take off made me feel flat,
	but, hey, I am glad that he helped turn me onto diesel
	engines.
	
	Second, diesels have great fuel economy, especially
	within city traffic, where they can run at higher
	gears and burn up 50% less fuel than a gas engine.  
	
	Third, they can propel you at higher torques and allow
	you to "pull" heavier loads, better than regular gas
	engines. Indeed, they provide grossly equivalent power
	at the same or lower rpms as a gas engine would.  For
	instance, quoting from Robert Bentley's Rabbit diesel
	manual, "the 1981 diesel is rated at 40 kWatts (52
	horsepower SAE Net) at 4800 rpm, compared to 57 kWatts
	(74 horsepower at 5000 rpm) for the 1981
	spark-ignition engine.  This enables the diesel to
	propel the lightweight Rabbit to a top speed well
	above the legal limit, with acceleration akin to that
	of a spark-ignition engine."   [While I don't fully
	understand this logic, I think the author means that
	diesel engines give you a 'good' amount of power at
	lower rpms than a gas engine would....but someone else
	can help explain this.] 
	
	
	Fourth, most people are ignorant (including myself)
	about the diesel engines and as result, shy away from
	them, especially when it comes to repair.  The truth
	is that they are actually *EASIER* work on and are
	*SIMPLER* than most gasoline engines.  Diesel engines
	don't have the complication of spark ignition, spark
	plugs, breaker points, condenser, ignition cables,
	distributor rotor, and other components that have to
	replaced over the lifetime of the vehicle.  Each of
	these components magnifies the number of potential
	problems that a gasoline engine can have and that can
	go wrong and be a nightmare (as it was for me with my
	SEC on Friday the 13th, during the heavy downpour].  
	
	Fifth, diesel engines are more economical to own and
	maintain because of not only the fuel economy but also
	by the fact they don't have a carburetor (older cars)
	or emission controls to service periodically to meet
	inspection requirements.  At $2.97 per gallon of gas,
	you can get 2-3 times the distance. That's simple
	math.  (It is too bad that it's actually cheaper to
	refine diesel and that they charge more for diesel to
	the point it is equivalent with lighter, more refined
	gasoline than is reasonably justified.]
	
	It is a myth that diesels are intolerably slow
	automobiles; those cars are actually not tuned right! 
	MBZ diesels are as amazing as VW diesels, when they
	have been serviced correctly.
	
	I hope this helps.  
	
	Cheers.
	
	-figmented on diesel power
	
	I just purchased and had delivered (thankfully) the
	first 2006 VW Beetle TDI (Turbo Diesel Injection) in
	my state.  Woo hoo.  (These guys don't even make it to
	the lot before they are sold out).  I also just got
	done fixing up our 1981 Rabbit diesel and sold it for
	4 times its previous worth.  Both cars get 45/55
	(city/highway) mpg, easy.  Trust me, diesel engines
	are a lot simpler to work on than regular gas engines;
	it is a tragedy that most mechanics do not know this
	fact, but use an incorrect (ignorant) cliche that they
	are actually more complicated to work on. 
	
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:52:25 -0400
From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS
	350SD
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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A lot of companies make good diesels these days. BMW makes some VERY
good diesels. While in Italy we rented a Volvo S60 5 cylinder
horizontally opposed diesel. It got about 35mpg mixed autostrade and
city mixed (we didn't even fill it up once until we returned it). Had a
pretty nice 5 speed manual gearbox in it, and wouldn't lug in 5th gear
as long as you were going more than like 20mph. Also didn't seem to mind
when I took it past redline by 500rpms (I think it was only 500 past,
might have been more, but that's where the tach stops). Smooth, quiet,
and no smell/smoke.
Richard

 

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From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD JAFFE
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 5:18 PM
To: figstir at yahoo.com; Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD

 

Hi guys,

 

I went over to my friendly local MBZ dealer to see what he had on the
used lot in diesel. Lots of late model S, M and C class, but no diesel.
So I wandered into the new car showroom to look around, and lo and
behold, MB now sells an E class 320 TDI (2005 and 2006 MY) common rail
direct injection  diesel. 201 HP with 369 lb-ft of torque coming on at
1800 rpm. 0-60 in 6.6 sec! 27 mpg city 37 mpg hwy. The literature say
the car can cruise up to 780 miles on a single tank. Bad news is MSRP
between $52 and $55K. If this thing were $10K cheaper I'd seriously
consider it.

 

Asking prices for very good condition 126, 123 and 124 chassis diesels
have gone up quite a bit recently - between $5K and $8k. The $2K - $4K
cars are pretty beat up and worn out. I looked at a really nice clean 83
300SD w/174K miles -  everything works, great paint and interior, clean
carfax. Seller wants $7,250.00!! Jeez. I figured this car would be worth
$5K max, using KBB valuation data as a guide.

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hovsep Dovlatian <hovsepdov at yahoo.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] message seats
To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
Message-ID: <20050905220210.48559.qmail at web90108.mail.scd.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I want to put a message sysmtem in the passenger seat
of my car. But I have NO clue as to where to start
lookin for such a thing. If you have any ideas let me
know. 


	
		
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:23:20 -0500
From: "Nathan Goodlet" <nathang at texoma.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS
	350SD
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:09:07 -0400
From: David Barclay <dcbarclay at monmouth.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Re: OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS
	350SD
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Hello everyone,

This discussion of diesels in cars and otherwise is interesting.

I have a '83 300 SD in addition to my 560 coupes and sedans.

Also, I am in farming and have been around tractors all my life.
Diesel tractors finally came into general use in the 1960's and 1970's.
The old guys were slow to adopt diesel tractors in those days.
But as diesels were improved they soon found fuel economy and engine 
longevity was superior.

We all know Mercedes Benz goes way, - way back with diesel engineering.

I am running John Deere tractors of various vintage, - all diesels.
Granted: these are heavy duty engines.
If we don't get 6,000 - 8,000 hours from an engine, - we send it back for a 
refund!

Think about it: That's 300,000 - 400,000 miles if you average 50 MPH.

The early '80's 300 turbos are great cars.
I enjoy the diesel very much.

I would Not suggest using kersoene. It is very light. Maybe mix a little in 
the cold of winter.

Also, - oil advice.

I am using Chevron RPM 15-40 in all my diesels (tractors and car).

I've been advised that it's even better than Mobil 1 in terms of additives 
and viscosity improvers.
So far I've been completely satisfied.

Dave Barclay, New Jersey




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