[W126 Coupe] Benzfest/Coupefest

[Jim Nowak]

Richard,

You can get a supercharger set-up like mine for well
under $6,000 including a Procharger P1SC.  The
Mosselman system is not ideal for a CIS engine sice it
does not utilize a vacuum activated blow-off valve. 
The Mosselman kit uses a pressure activated pop-off
valve.  It causes more parasitic drag on the engine
and it causes the CIS air flow meter to be depressed
more than it should and causes a rich condition at
idle and under a steady cruise.  Been there done that
with a Mosselman kit.    

Jim

--- "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
wrote:

> Hmm, which S600 engine is this? I guess I don't have
> to ask since Jim
> said 4-valve, but I was thinking it was the later
> 3-valve version. $7500
> in parts was it? Did he find a wrecked car or
> something? I thought a 600
> longblock alone is around 13 grand, plus then all
> the injection and
> ignition parts, I'm thinking new radiator system
> too, maybe some custom
> fabrication to make various mounts. I can't imagine
> only cost $7500 in
> parts, I would have thought around $20k+.
> 
>  
> 
> Carl, you reading this? I know you guys are going to
> start carrying
> Mosselman. Do you have a price on the supercharger
> they have for the
> 500euro engine? I never realized that a rebuilt euro
> 500 engine could be
> had for $4500, and while it wouldn't be the ideal
> supercharged 560 set
> up, that might just be idiotic (looking at about
> 14grand to convert to a
> 560 and then $15000 for the Koenig, I'm guessing
> Jim's set up doesn't
> cost less than 6000, versus $4500 to convert to a
> euro 500 and then
> however much for the mosselman. Not 400+hp but still
> 300hp and 368lb-ft,
> and I have enough cash to do it this summer).
> 
> Richard
> 
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of
> Markus Meyer
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:42 AM
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Benzfest/Coupefest
> 
>  
> 
> What plastic covering? Have you seen the V12 motor?
> You don't see
> plastic, you see the engine itself where you can
> count the banks for the
> cylinders right in front of you in the standard Benz
> silver metal color.
> 
> 
> The 5.0 had plastic covering the motor but not the
> 6.0.
> 
> Cost is relative. Depends on what you do, who does
> it, etc, etc. In this
> case around $7500 minus whatever the old
> engine/trans will fetch if/when
> sold. Not bad for stock, reliable Benz power pushing
> over 400 in both
> horsepower and ft/lbs of torque.
> 
> Markus
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Mon 04/18, Shayegan, Richard <
> rishayegan at davidson.edu > wrote:
> 
> From: Shayegan, Richard [mailto:
> rishayegan at davidson.edu]
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:23:12 -0400
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Benzfest/Coupefest
> 
> Anybody know what the V12 conversion cost? I still
> think I like the 560
> engine with a Koenig specials (or Jim's, how much
> power is Jim pushing?)
> supercharger on it more, just because there is less
> plastic covering and
> that nice air filter on top.
> 
> Richard
> 
> ________________________________
> 
>  
> 
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of
> Markus Meyer
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:39 AM
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Benzfest/Coupefest
> 
>  
> 
> Yes, quite impressive. The motor/transmission from
> an S600 implanted
> into an SEC. Absolutely awesome, amazing,
> cool...well you get the idea!
> Unfortunately I ran out of the house and was on the
> road before I
> realized I had forgotten my camera but I know plenty
> of others had them
> so we'll have to wait until the pictures come out
> and get them compiled
> for all to see. It is such a nice job and looks like
> it could have come
> out of the factory that way. The hood was up as the
> car sat in the shop
> for all to view and it got quite a bit of attention.
> Since my engine
> wasn't detailed to Ellen's specs I was too
> embarrassed and kept my hood
> down, especially since its just the stock motor and
> not interesting to
> look at with the V12 SEC a few car down, a 500E with
> nitrous (Bergwerks
> special), and a C55 AMG which Motorwerks is helping
> to get ready for the
> One Lap of America race. Brent and I did want to
> figure out how to get
> one of the Benz racing engines in our cars, 2.65
> liter with 900
> hp...until we heard they break them down after 500
> miles and rebuild
> them for $50K!
> 
> Markus
> 
> --- On Mon 04/18, Axel Wulff < axelwulff at hotmail.com
> > wrote:
> 
> From: Axel Wulff [mailto: axelwulff at hotmail.com]
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:18:34 -0400
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Benzfest/Coupefest
> 
> Markus,
> 
> A V12 SEC!!!!!!
> 
> Pictures pleeease......
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Axel J. Wulff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Markus Meyer" 
> >Reply-To: mfmeyer at iwon.com,Mercedes Coupes Mailing
> Lists 
> >
> >To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> >Subject: [W126 Coupe] Benzfest/Coupefest
> >Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:33:40 -0400 (E DT)
> >
> > Hi gang, I'm back from my drive to Detroit for the
> weekend and
> attendance 
> >at Benzfest/Coupefest at Satish's facility in
> Commerce Township 
> >(Motorwerks). I'm a bit tired after the drive and 3
> hours sleep but we
> had 
> >a great weekend. Met a lot of great people, made
> some new friends, saw 
> >some great cars, got to do some work on different
> cars, saw the great 
> >unveiling of a V12 SEC, and heard some great
> technical info about
> several 
> >topics. Thanks to Satish for hosting the event, and
> thanks to all who 
> >participated. Hopefully you had as much fun as I
> did, and hope everyone
> 
> >else who came long distance got home safely as
> well. Once we get photos
> 
> >sorted out and other info together we can post a
> few more things. 
> >Cheers,Markus
> >
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