[LargeFormat] new portrait lens to my managerie

[Les Newcomer]

Thanks I'll keep that in mind.

I'm off to the Michigan Photographic Historical Soceity's show in Novi 
tomorrow.  I remember somebody mentioning it on the list and was thinking 
of going (Uncle Dick?).  After the show I'm planning on building some 
wrenches so I can remove the front cell without damage.  Maybe then I can 
assess what it's really going to take to bring this back alive.

As to what camera these were used on, I believe they would have been of 
the 8x10 Portrait variety, even thorugh it's designed for whole plate. The 
thread diameter is 5.5 Inches so it would need a minimum of a 7x7 and 
better on a 9x9 board. this is certainly not a field lens.  A friend of 
mine has a Deardorff Portrait 11x14 and this for the article I think I 
could get him to remove the Portrait Unar for a short period of time.  
Once it showed up I contemplated how I would use it outside.  I decided I 
would have to build or modify a camera so that the rigid front standard 
was mounted not in front, but 8 or 9 inches back on the rails.  While this 
doesn't releive the strain on the front board it would keep the camera 
from toppling over.  I thought of simply adding a removeable set of rails 
to the front of a B&J portrait, but the mounting point would take all the 
strain on the bolts.  Also the focal lenght of 16" would increase the 
overall length of any camera to 18" and probably 20". All in all, even 
with 5x7 format, I would need one large, bulky, and sturdy! camera.

BTW I just checked my notes.  The 3B in the photo is a 14" f2 and cost 
$500 in 1904. If I'm not mistaken that isn't a whole lot less than a 
Curved dash Oldsmoblile or a Model A Ford from the same time.

Les



On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 03:44 PM, Clive Warren wrote:

> At 17:25 30/10/2002 -0800, Les Newcomer wrote:
>> While I have no problem allowing that to happen,  I wanna get some more 
>> "artful" photographs of them.
>> I'm threatening doing a documentary of the restoration of the 3A--it 
>> would be stills of course and I'd have to find a web site, etc. but at 
>> this point I'm concentrating on getting a place to put up a sweep and a 
>> soft box that doesn't interfere with dinner.
>>
>> the 3A is an 'f4 portrait' lens  (petzval)   below is the link to to 3Bs.
>>    at the extreme left is a 3A like mine.
>> http://home.twmi.rr.com/lnphoto/SERIES3B.jpg
> big snip
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> Les,
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> Sounds good - you have no need to look any further for a web site for 
> your 3A documentary - would be happy to place the article on the f32.net 
> web site in the equipment section.  Or if you prefer it could appear in 
> the f32 Discussion Forum.
>
> Those 3 series lens are pretty serious - what cameras were they used on? 
> They must weigh enough to challenge even the most rigid front standard of 
> any large wooden field type camera. Guess that we are in the realms of 
> older versions of Uncle Dick's shen hao studio camera complete with 
> wheels......
>
> Hope the portraiture session was fruitful.
>
> Cheers,
>            Clive
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