[LargeFormat] Old Glass

[Lee Carmichael]

hear hear from a guy that likes fairly modern glass.

lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Newcomer" <lnphoto@twmi.rr.com>
To: <largeformat@f32.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Old Glass


> One of the Caevats of old glass is to use them in the manner they were
> intended.  I had a beautiful Krauss protar that took exsquite photos, but
> was designed for 4x5, so I put it up on ebay extolling the virtues of its
> imagemaking quality.
>
> I got an email from a guy in Japan wanted to use this lens on his 6x8 and
> then make 40x50inch enlargements.
>
> I told him point plank he need the latest in cutting edge imagemaking
glass.
>
> Old glass (pre WWII)  was designed for contact printing, and in some cases
> can handle upto a 4X enlargement. After that the new stuff will run
circles
> around the old stuff.
>
> Les
>
> > From: "Eve Girard" <evegir@reachone.com>
> > Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
> > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:34:53 -0700
> > To: <largeformat@f32.net>
> > Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Old Glass
> >
> > I think we sometimes suffer from "lens envy," a condition that entices
us to
> > become gadgeteers rather than photographers.  Always striving for the
best
> > and the latest.  I've never bothered to investigate the dates on my
Protars
> > and Dagors but I think it's safe to say that the turn of the LAST
century is
> > closer than is the turn of the present.  I do believe that my latest
vintage
> > lens is a mid-60's Schneider 210.  Are the images good?  You betcha!
Will
> > they compare line by line with the very latest computer-engineered
lens?
> > Probably not.  BUT . . .  Do they produce satisfying images that fit my
> > vision?  Most emphatically a "YES."  I guess it boils down to who we are
and
> > what we want.
> > Eve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Clive Warren" <Clive.Warren@megacycle.co.uk>
> > To: <largeformat@f32.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:06 AM
> > Subject: [LargeFormat] Old Glass
> >
> >
> >> At 19:09 11/06/02 -0400, FlaFaces1@aol.com wrote:
> >> Clive, I have the old Graphic 2, and the non-super schnieder lenses.  I
> > was
> >> beginning to get a complex, thinking my stuff was garbage.   Yes, my
shots
> > so
> >> far, are not perfect, but I like what I see.  I was beginning to
believe i
> >> had inferior lenses to do 4x5.  Thank you for your encouragement on
using
> > the
> >> lenses that came with it, in the 1940's ..  I will soon, have my 8
images
> > to
> >> put on my site in the room...  Don Mason
> >>
> >> Don,
> >>
> >> Old glass can rival or even beat new glass - it's also cheaper and
usually
> >> lighter.  No coatings or single coatings is not usually a problem with
the
> >> older lens designs, although contrast can suffer depending on the
design
> > of
> >> the lens.
> >>
> >> One of the real sleeper older lens is the Schneider Xenar 150mm - very
> >> sharp little lens although not a lot of coverage. I have one of these
in a
> >> Linhof Compur Shutter and it seems to perform well. The favorite lens
in
> > my
> >> 4x5 kit is a 1947 Kodak 203mm Ektar - loads of coverage on 4x5 and does
a
> >> wonderful job with colour. Check out the f32 Discussion Forum at
> >> http://www,f32.net/discus/ for an example of its performance and
> >> enlargement from a trannie.
> >>
> >> Recently picked up an 8x10  lens made in 1903 for a camera made in 1902
> >> which will be used as a lightweight field outfit. If people express
> >> surprise at the age of your kit, laugh in their faces, sweep the
focusing
> >> cloth around you like a cape and say "nobody expects the antiques
> > roadshow..."
> >>
> >> With the money you save on buying new lenses, keep yourself in film and
> >> processing for the rest of the year.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Clive
> >>
> >>
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