[LargeFormat] Regarding Planning for LF
Bob Younger
largeformat@f32.net
Tue Apr 3 23:08:22 2001
I recommend you call Chuck Farmer (see http://www.charlespfarmer-photo.com
if you want to talk about Wisners. He both uses and sells them. He has also
in the course of many LF workshops seen many different cameras, and I'm
certain used a number of them through the years. My 4x5 is a Linhof ST IV;
and my 8x10 is a Deardorff. Either of which I would recommend in a
heartbeat. I recently had the opportunity to see a Canham in action at a
workshop. It is quite a nice camera indeed, and certainly a contender. Very
innovative, and comparatively quite light. I do know for a fact that Wisners
are quite backordered (apparently to the point that you need to "know
someone" who's a close friend of Ron) though occasionally you'll see a used
one.
Welcome to LF photography.
Bob Younger
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> 1. RE: Planning Advice (Hornford, Dave)
> 2. Re: Planning Advice (Pam Niedermayer)
> 3. RE: Planning Advice (Hornford, Dave)
> 4. Re: Planning Advice (Douglas Cooper)
> 5. Re: Planning Advice (Pam Niedermayer)
> 6. Re: Planning Advice (Pam Niedermayer)
> 7. RE: Planning Advice (Don Wilkes)
> 8. RE: Planning Advice (Hornford, Dave)
> 9. Re: Planning Advice (Pam Niedermayer)
> 10. Re: Planning Advice (Douglas Cooper)
> 11. Re: Planning Advice (Pam Niedermayer)
> 12. Re: Planning Advice (Drew Eschbacher)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Hornford, Dave" <Dave.Hornford@Compaq.com>
> To: largeformat@f32.net
> Subject: RE: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:54:38 -0500
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
>
> Pam,
>
> Why a Gowland? And, I may be reading more into your phrase, 'have to
choose
> a Toho'... but it implies I wouldn't want to.
> I like the look of the Wisner Expedition/Pocket Expedition and admit I am
> influenced by their styling - but am concerned about wood from a
durability
> & environmental variation standpoint (hot/cold/dry/humid)
>
> Sorry about left out bits, for backpacking I'm limiting myself to 4x5 -
for
> non-backpacking I'll look into 5x7/8x10 in a bit. However one kit at a
time.
> Regarding lens I recognise that I will have to make trade-offs, and will
> trade weight for function in this category. Again, for the non-backpacking
> kit I'm more open. Regarding time & price - I'm quite open on both of
them.
> I'll wait as long as I need to either get what I want or arrange either
> money for what I want
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pam Niedermayer [mailto:pam_pine@cape.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 9:49 AM
> To: largeformat@f32.net
> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
>
>
> Most of the major vendors have light weight field cameras. For
> "feather" weight you'll probably have to choose the Toho. A friend
> loves his Phillips 4x5; and it's a great camera, but not cheap and
> probably backordered. Also check out Canham, Wisner (their Tech Field
> models are heavy, but not the Expedition series). I use a Gowland
> Pocket View, about 3 lbs, found a used one for $300 a few months ago.
> Also there are Fatif in Italy, Panfield in South Africa, Ebony.
>
> All depends on the format size you want, how much you want to spend,
> how long you can/will wait. If you'll be using large heavy lenses,
> your options are narrowed.
>
> Pam
>
> "Hornford, Dave" wrote:
> >
> > I am looking for advice on a 'new' LF kit.
> >
> > To try LF I picked up a Calumet C400 & B&J Press Camera with some older
> lens
> > (I primarily use a Wollensak 162 & Kodak 127) & shutters. Well I love it
> and
> > have decided to upgrade my kit.
> >
> > I am interested primarily in landscape photography and I will be taking
my
> > gear backpacking (I have three week-long trips planned in the Canadian
> > Rockies this summer). It is my expectation that I will end up with a
> normal
> > rail camera as well as a field camera, but the field is a priority.
> >
> > I am looking for:
> > - full range of movement
> > - durability
> > - light as a feather (my 7 & 9 year-old sons think of me as
their
> > porter)
> >
> > I am also looking for advice on lens & shutters. In 35mm I normally use
a
> > 24, 28, 100 & 300mm.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Dave Hornford
> >
> > > "The real reason mountain climbers tie themselves together is to keep
> the
> > > sensible ones from going home."
> > > - Anon - Sign at Alpine Shoe Repair (Calgary)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat
>
> --
> Pamela G. Niedermayer
> Pinehill Softworks Inc.
> 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
> Austin, TX 78705
> 512-236-1677
> http://www.pinehill.com
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 12:20:56 -0500
> From: Pam Niedermayer <pam_pine@cape.com>
> Organization: Pinehill Softworks Inc.
> To: largeformat@f32.net
> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
>
> "Hornford, Dave" wrote:
> >
> > Pam,
> >
> > Why a Gowland? And, I may be reading more into your phrase, 'have to
choose
> > a Toho'... but it implies I wouldn't want to.
> > I like the look of the Wisner Expedition/Pocket Expedition and admit I
am
> > influenced by their styling - but am concerned about wood from a
durability
> > & environmental variation standpoint (hot/cold/dry/humid)
>
> The Gowland Pocket View (I have a Calumet branded one with all
> movements except rear rise and fall) is small, light weight (depending
> on model 3 - 4 lbs), easy to set up, easy to rotate the back, easy to
> change bellows (although not cheap, since the front lens holder body
> is glued to the front of the bellows, I'm in the process of modifying
> this slightly) nice looking to me.
>
> I didn't mean to imply anything bad about the Toho, looks like a great
> camera. It is much more expensive than my Gowland (used $300), few if
> any used ones available, and probably close to a pound lighter weight.
> The only problem criticism I have is the way you have to move from
> vertical to horizontal - somehow you rotate the body. Too bad Kerry's
> largeformat.com site is down, he has a great review of this camera.
>
> I don't know how old you are, but unless bashed about, most any Wisner
> will outlast me. I have a 5x7 Tech Field, very heavy, but certainly
> sturdy and a really good camera.
>
> >
> > Sorry about left out bits, for backpacking I'm limiting myself to 4x5 -
for
> > non-backpacking I'll look into 5x7/8x10 in a bit. However one kit at a
time.
> > Regarding lens I recognise that I will have to make trade-offs, and will
> > trade weight for function in this category. Again, for the
non-backpacking
> > kit I'm more open. Regarding time & price - I'm quite open on both of
them.
> > I'll wait as long as I need to either get what I want or arrange either
> > money for what I want
>
> After looking at Ted Harris' Phillips, if I were buying new it would
> be hard to choose anything else; although I haven't seen a Canham in
> person. Very innovative touches, logical, light weight; but there
> normally is quite a backlog of orders, so you may have to wait a
> while, seldom seen used.
>
> Pam
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pam Niedermayer [mailto:pam_pine@cape.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 9:49 AM
> > To: largeformat@f32.net
> > Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> >
> > Most of the major vendors have light weight field cameras. For
> > "feather" weight you'll probably have to choose the Toho. A friend
> > loves his Phillips 4x5; and it's a great camera, but not cheap and
> > probably backordered. Also check out Canham, Wisner (their Tech Field
> > models are heavy, but not the Expedition series). I use a Gowland
> > Pocket View, about 3 lbs, found a used one for $300 a few months ago.
> > Also there are Fatif in Italy, Panfield in South Africa, Ebony.
> >
> > All depends on the format size you want, how much you want to spend,
> > how long you can/will wait. If you'll be using large heavy lenses,
> > your options are narrowed.
> >
> > Pam
> ...
> --
> Pamela G. Niedermayer
> Pinehill Softworks Inc.
> 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
> Austin, TX 78705
> 512-236-1677
> http://www.pinehill.com
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: "Hornford, Dave" <Dave.Hornford@Compaq.com>
> To: largeformat@f32.net
> Subject: RE: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:42:45 -0500
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
>
> Thanks Pam,
>
> I read the Toho review on Kerry's Site (it looks like it has been moved to
> http://largeformat.terrashare.com/)
>
> I'm 36, and expect a Wisner to last - however last summer in the Rockies I
> was rained on for 3 days before the rain turned to snow. Close to
everything
> I had was wet, and then frozen. Once, I slipped crossing streams and
dropped
> my pack into the stream. Despite my best efforts I expect anything I take
> backpacking to be 'ridden hard and put away wet'.
>
> I came across a British firm that made LF gear with PVC bodies - but I
can't
> recall their name.
>
> I'll have a closer look at the Phillips and Canhams. (Is Ted involved in
> making them, or your friend who has one?)
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> After looking at Ted Harris' Phillips, if I were buying new it would
> be hard to choose anything else; although I haven't seen a Canham in
> person. Very innovative touches, logical, light weight; but there
> normally is quite a backlog of orders, so you may have to wait a
> while, seldom seen used.
>
> Pam
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 15:57:37 -0400
> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> From: Douglas Cooper <douglas@dysmedia.com>
> To: <largeformat@f32.net>
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
>
> On 4/3/01 1:20 PM, Pam Niedermayer expressed the following:
>
> >
> > The Gowland Pocket View (I have a Calumet branded one with all
> > movements except rear rise and fall) is small, light weight (depending
> > on model 3 - 4 lbs), easy to set up, easy to rotate the back, easy to
> > change bellows (although not cheap, since the front lens holder body
> > is glued to the front of the bellows, I'm in the process of modifying
> > this slightly) nice looking to me.
>
>
> I too have a Pocket View. I had Peter modify it a bit (which he
considered
> overkill, but it makes me happy) -- mine has rear tilt and rise, and both
> standards focus (instead of just the front standard). This makes it much
> easier to install the extension rail. Love this camera. And Peter
Gowland
> is a gentleman and a scholar.
>
> My only complaint about mine is that my bellows was glued on a bit
> cock-eyed... I suppose this is easy enough to fix. And of course the
thing
> has no zero detents (although I find these of limited use, anyway -- you
> usually want to fiddle with things, so an approximation of zero is good
> enough to start with).
>
> Another possibility, although heavier, is a Super Speed Graphic. Compact
> and bulletproof, with surprisingly good movements. Check out the review
on
> cameraquest.com.
>
> The PVC camera is the Walker Titan. Beautifully machined, but seriously
> heavy, and a bit complex to open and close. The Walker that interests me
> most is the dedicated wide body...
>
> Just as a matter of interest, Pam, how are you modifying the front bellows
> attachment on your Gowland?
>
> cheers,
>
>
> Douglas Cooper
> http://www.dysmedia.com
>
> NO ARCHIVE
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 16:11:13 -0500
> From: Pam Niedermayer <pam_pine@cape.com>
> Organization: Pinehill Softworks Inc.
> To: largeformat@f32.net
> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
>
> The plastic LF's are Walker Titans at http://www.walkercameras.com/.
> I've never seen one, have heard one person say they look like, well,
plastic.
>
> Ted is my friend who has the Phillips, he isn't involved financially,
> other than the big hole in his pocket.
>
> Pam
>
> "Hornford, Dave" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Pam,
> >
> > I read the Toho review on Kerry's Site (it looks like it has been moved
to
> > http://largeformat.terrashare.com/)
> >
> > I'm 36, and expect a Wisner to last - however last summer in the Rockies
I
> > was rained on for 3 days before the rain turned to snow. Close to
everything
> > I had was wet, and then frozen. Once, I slipped crossing streams and
dropped
> > my pack into the stream. Despite my best efforts I expect anything I
take
> > backpacking to be 'ridden hard and put away wet'.
> >
> > I came across a British firm that made LF gear with PVC bodies - but I
can't
> > recall their name.
> >
> > I'll have a closer look at the Phillips and Canhams. (Is Ted involved in
> > making them, or your friend who has one?)
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > After looking at Ted Harris' Phillips, if I were buying new it would
> > be hard to choose anything else; although I haven't seen a Canham in
> > person. Very innovative touches, logical, light weight; but there
> > normally is quite a backlog of orders, so you may have to wait a
> > while, seldom seen used.
> >
> > Pam
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > LargeFormat mailing list
> > LargeFormat@f32.net
> > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat
>
> --
> Pamela G. Niedermayer
> Pinehill Softworks Inc.
> 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
> Austin, TX 78705
> 512-236-1677
> http://www.pinehill.com
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 16:17:55 -0500
> From: Pam Niedermayer <pam_pine@cape.com>
> Organization: Pinehill Softworks Inc.
> To: largeformat@f32.net
> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
>
> Mine has rear tilt, just no rear rise/fall. I've just won on ebay an
> auction for some mounting parts for the Gowland, not yet here; but my
> plan is to also add a rear focusing ability, as well as a longer
> bellows, already have a bag that has to be retrofitted a bit better
> (got it from Jay Bender). I'm about ready to paint on the zero
> "detent" marks, just because I'm anal.
>
> I hated the Speed Graphic, tore it apart for parts within two weeks of
> receiving it.
>
> I plan to attach (probably glue) a little slot onto the back of the
> lens, have the top of it hinged so I can interchange bag and normal
> and still have it light tight.
>
> Pam
>
> Douglas Cooper wrote:
> >
> > On 4/3/01 1:20 PM, Pam Niedermayer expressed the following:
> >
> > >
> > > The Gowland Pocket View (I have a Calumet branded one with all
> > > movements except rear rise and fall) is small, light weight (depending
> > > on model 3 - 4 lbs), easy to set up, easy to rotate the back, easy to
> > > change bellows (although not cheap, since the front lens holder body
> > > is glued to the front of the bellows, I'm in the process of modifying
> > > this slightly) nice looking to me.
> >
> > I too have a Pocket View. I had Peter modify it a bit (which he
considered
> > overkill, but it makes me happy) -- mine has rear tilt and rise, and
both
> > standards focus (instead of just the front standard). This makes it
much
> > easier to install the extension rail. Love this camera. And Peter
Gowland
> > is a gentleman and a scholar.
> >
> > My only complaint about mine is that my bellows was glued on a bit
> > cock-eyed... I suppose this is easy enough to fix. And of course the
thing
> > has no zero detents (although I find these of limited use, anyway -- you
> > usually want to fiddle with things, so an approximation of zero is good
> > enough to start with).
> >
> > Another possibility, although heavier, is a Super Speed Graphic.
Compact
> > and bulletproof, with surprisingly good movements. Check out the review
on
> > cameraquest.com.
> >
> > The PVC camera is the Walker Titan. Beautifully machined, but seriously
> > heavy, and a bit complex to open and close. The Walker that interests
me
> > most is the dedicated wide body...
> >
> > Just as a matter of interest, Pam, how are you modifying the front
bellows
> > attachment on your Gowland?
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> >
> > Douglas Cooper
> > http://www.dysmedia.com
> >
> > NO ARCHIVE
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > LargeFormat mailing list
> > LargeFormat@f32.net
> > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat
>
> --
> Pamela G. Niedermayer
> Pinehill Softworks Inc.
> 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
> Austin, TX 78705
> 512-236-1677
> http://www.pinehill.com
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:20:35 -0700
> To: largeformat@f32.net
> From: Don Wilkes <Don.Wilkes@gems9.gov.bc.ca>
> Subject: RE: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> Cc: largeformat@f32.net
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
>
> At 12:42 PM 4/3/01 -0500, Hornford, Dave wrote:
>
> >I came across a British firm that made LF gear with PVC bodies - but I
can't
> >recall their name.
>
>
> Dave:
>
> Are you thinking of Mike Walker's Titan? He in England, and makes a
> 'technical' camera from ABS plastic. It got a mention in the "Product
> Survey of 4x5 Technical Cameras" in the Jan/Feb 2001 issue of "View
Camera"
> magazine. According to that article, they're imported into the US (by
both
> Bromwell Mkt. and Calumet) so it shouldn't be too difficult to get one
here
> in Canada.
>
> See: http://www.walkercameras.com/
>
> Cheers,
> \dw
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "Hornford, Dave" <Dave.Hornford@Compaq.com>
> To: largeformat@f32.net
> Subject: RE: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:59:27 -0500
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
>
> A friend at work suggested that I'd find a new camera easier to carry
hiking
> once my wallet was substantially lighter. :-)
> The PVC I was thinking of is the ABS Walker Titan. A few wet & wet then
> frozen experiences have me slightly concerned about something like a
Wisner
> PE. Its not that I intend to thrash it, rather, I might unintentionally -
> and that wallet lightening has me thinking about durability.
>
> Any experience with really poor conditions & durability that should cause
me
> to worry more or less?
>
> Pam, What would cause you not to look at anything other than a Phillips if
> you were buying new?
>
> Doug, What are the attraction points to the Walker Titan?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Ted is my friend who has the Phillips, he isn't involved financially,
> other than the big hole in his pocket.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 17:10:49 -0500
> From: Pam Niedermayer <pam_pine@cape.com>
> Organization: Pinehill Softworks Inc.
> To: largeformat@f32.net
> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
>
> "Hornford, Dave" wrote:
> >
> > A friend at work suggested that I'd find a new camera easier to carry
hiking
> > once my wallet was substantially lighter. :-)
>
> Indeed.
>
> > The PVC I was thinking of is the ABS Walker Titan. A few wet & wet then
> > frozen experiences have me slightly concerned about something like a
Wisner
> > PE. Its not that I intend to thrash it, rather, I might
unintentionally -
> > and that wallet lightening has me thinking about durability.
>
> That's why we have insurance companies. Just insure and stop worrying.
>
> >
> > Any experience with really poor conditions & durability that should
cause me
> > to worry more or less?
> >
> > Pam, What would cause you not to look at anything other than a Phillips
if
> > you were buying new?
>
> Well, I do like the Gowland quite a bit, am not at all unhappy with
> it. I was very impressed with the Phillips in the short time I had to
> play with Ted's. What I'm actually doing is building a couple of
> 8x10's for Ted and me rather than looking at ready mades. Making
> something is much more pleasing right now than doing more shopping.
>
> I put together 3 systems last year in my effort to find something I
> liked a lot. Very tiring, now have to sell the Wisner 5x7, very
> boring; so I'm not up to evaluating a bunch more cameras long distance
> for a long, long time. I know the Phillips is not only acceptable, it
> excels, so why look further, were I looking.
>
> You may also want to consider Ebony, forgot to mention them. And Lotus.
>
> Pam
>
> --
> Pamela G. Niedermayer
> Pinehill Softworks Inc.
> 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
> Austin, TX 78705
> 512-236-1677
> http://www.pinehill.com
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 19:04:48 -0400
> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> From: Douglas Cooper <douglas@dysmedia.com>
> To: <largeformat@f32.net>
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
>
> On 4/3/01 5:17 PM, Pam Niedermayer expressed the following:
>
> > I hated the Speed Graphic, tore it apart for parts within two weeks of
> > receiving it.
> >
>
>
> It's an odd camera, to be sure, but I think it is very much the Poor Man's
> Linhof. Nice to have a rangefinder -- I'm thinking of doing some
> Weegee-style street shooting. But I can see finding it a bit unwieldy.
The
> movements are pretty bizarre -- you pretty much need Gandy's article at
> cameraquest.com in order to figure out front shift, for instance.
>
> > I plan to attach (probably glue) a little slot onto the back of the
> > lens, have the top of it hinged so I can interchange bag and normal
> > and still have it light tight.
>
>
> Okay, maybe I'm thick today, but I can't for the life of me visualize
this!
> (And am quite interested in having this done.)
>
> cheers,
>
>
>
> Douglas Cooper
> http://www.dysmedia.com
>
> NO ARCHIVE
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:30:51 -0500
> From: Pam Niedermayer <pam_pine@cape.com>
> Organization: Pinehill Softworks Inc.
> To: largeformat@f32.net
> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
>
> Douglas Cooper wrote:
> >
> > On 4/3/01 5:17 PM, Pam Niedermayer expressed the following:
> >
> > > I hated the Speed Graphic, tore it apart for parts within two weeks of
> > > receiving it.
> > >
> >
> > It's an odd camera, to be sure, but I think it is very much the Poor
Man's
> > Linhof. Nice to have a rangefinder -- I'm thinking of doing some
> > Weegee-style street shooting. But I can see finding it a bit unwieldy.
The
> > movements are pretty bizarre -- you pretty much need Gandy's article at
> > cameraquest.com in order to figure out front shift, for instance.
>
> For this type of shooting I got a Stroboframe, mounted the Gowland on
> it, removed most of the Stroboframe (everything except the frame
> itself) - perfect. And since I'm using the same quick release for
> everything, I can even use it on a Bogen monopod I carry around.
>
> >
> > > I plan to attach (probably glue) a little slot onto the back of the
> > > lens, have the top of it hinged so I can interchange bag and normal
> > > and still have it light tight.
> >
> > Okay, maybe I'm thick today, but I can't for the life of me visualize
this!
> > (And am quite interested in having this done.)
>
> Think of a square filter holder into which you drop the filters, add a
> hinged top to block out all the light, a form glued to the front of
> the bag that slides into the holder, then you close the hinge. For the
> rear standard I just need to cut a form that matches the existing one
> on the regular bellows.
>
> Pam
>
> --
> Pamela G. Niedermayer
> Pinehill Softworks Inc.
> 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
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> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 21:56:18 -0400
> To: largeformat@f32.net
> From: Drew Eschbacher <dreweschbacher@sc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Planning Advice
> Reply-To: largeformat@f32.net
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> Dave,
>
> Congrats on joining the masses of people that use large format
> equipment. Now you too can attract attention from every person that
hasn't
> seen a large camera before. Seriously though, I have a Wisner 4x5 Pocket
> Expedition that works well for backpacking. Another choice is the Canham
> DLC 4x5. The Canham will allow use of lenses from 58 to 600 mm, the
Wisner
> is limited to 58 to 480mm. Get a copy of View Camera Magazine and check
> out Badger Graphics, Quality Camera and the View Camera Store (not
> associated with the magazine) for prices.
>
> To get the 4x5 equivalents for 35 mm lenses just multiply the 35 mm focal
> length by three. So your most used lens choices become 75, 90, 300, and
> 900. I like my lenses to have lots of coverage and secondly be light
> weight but coverage always comes first. My picks for the lenses are: the
> Schnieder Super-Angulon 72XL f:5.6 ($1200 at Badger Graphics) - it will
> cover 5x7; the Nikkor 90SW f:8.0 ($840 at B&H Photo) - also covers 5x7;
the
> Nikkor M 300 f:9.0 ($710 at B&H Photo) will cover 8 x10; and the closest
> thing to a 900 mm lens is the Nikkor Telephoto 800mm f:12 ED ($3000 at
B&H
> Photo) which I don't recommend. You aren't going to be shooting wildlife
> with this setup. Bring the 35mm camera along for that. Fuji does make a
> 450mm f:12.5 if you still want to reach out. Almost all shutters on new
> lenses are Copal shutters. Other than the 800mm Nikkor which takes a
Copal
> #3 the other lenses mentioned take either a Copal 0 or 1 shutter which are
> small.
>
> You don't mention accessories but you should look at standardizing your
> filter sizes to the biggest lens and get some step up adapters for the
> other lenses. Your tripod and tripod head are sources of weight that most
> people ignore until they have to carry it for a while. Check out the
Gitzo
> carbon fiber models. As for the tripod head, pick out the style that you
> can use, then worry about the weight. Also, are you going to use film
> holders or Quick loads. If you shoot B&W then you are stuck with holders
> and a changing bag. If you shoot some color transparency films then give
> the Fuji Quick loads and the new and improved Kodak Ready load systems a
try.
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Drew
>
> Drew Eschbacher
> Columbia, SC
> dreweschbacher@sc.rr.com
>
>
>
> At 08:44 AM 4/1/01, you wrote:
> >I am looking for advice on a 'new' LF kit.
> >
> >To try LF I picked up a Calumet C400 & B&J Press Camera with some older
lens
> >(I primarily use a Wollensak 162 & Kodak 127) & shutters. Well I love it
and
> >have decided to upgrade my kit.
> >
> >I am interested primarily in landscape photography and I will be taking
my
> >gear backpacking (I have three week-long trips planned in the Canadian
> >Rockies this summer). It is my expectation that I will end up with a
normal
> >rail camera as well as a field camera, but the field is a priority.
> >
> >I am looking for:
> > - full range of movement
> > - durability
> > - light as a feather (my 7 & 9 year-old sons think of me as
their
> >porter)
> >
> >I am also looking for advice on lens & shutters. In 35mm I normally use a
> >24, 28, 100 & 300mm.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Dave Hornford
> >
> > > "The real reason mountain climbers tie themselves together is to keep
the
> > > sensible ones from going home."
> > > - Anon - Sign at Alpine Shoe Repair (Calgary)
> > >
> > >
> >
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> <font size=3D3>Dave,<br>
> <br>
> Congrats on joining the masses of people that use large format
> equipment. Now you too can attract attention from every person that
> hasn't seen a large camera before. Seriously though, I have a
> Wisner 4x5 Pocket Expedition that works well for backpacking.
> Another choice is the Canham DLC 4x5. The Canham will allow use of
> lenses from 58 to 600 mm, the Wisner is limited to 58 to 480mm. Get
> a copy of View Camera Magazine and check out Badger Graphics, Quality
> Camera and the View Camera Store (not associated with the magazine) for
> prices.<br>
> <br>
> To get the 4x5 equivalents for 35 mm lenses just multiply the 35 mm focal
> length by three. So your most used lens choices become 75, 90, 300,
> and 900. I like my lenses to have lots of coverage and secondly be
> light weight but coverage always comes first. My picks for the
> lenses are: the Schnieder Super-Angulon 72XL f:5.6 ($1200 at Badger
> Graphics) - it will cover 5x7; the Nikkor 90SW f:8.0 ($840 at B&H
> Photo) - also covers 5x7; the Nikkor M 300 f:9.0 ($710 at B&H Photo)
> will cover 8 x10; and the closest thing to a 900 mm lens is the
> Nikkor Telephoto 800mm f:12 ED ($3000 at B&H Photo) which I
> don't recommend. You aren't going to be shooting wildlife with this
> setup. Bring the 35mm camera along for that. Fuji does make a
> 450mm f:12.5 if you still want to reach out. Almost all shutters on
> new lenses are Copal shutters. Other than the 800mm Nikkor which
> takes a Copal #3 the other lenses mentioned take either a Copal 0 or 1
> shutter which are small.<br>
> <br>
> You don't mention accessories but you should look at standardizing your
> filter sizes to the biggest lens and get some step up adapters for the
> other lenses. Your tripod and tripod head are sources of weight
> that most people ignore until they have to carry it for a while.
> Check out the Gitzo carbon fiber models. As for the tripod head,
> pick out the style that you can use, then worry about the weight. Also,
> are you going to use film holders or Quick loads. If you shoot
> B&W then you are stuck with holders and a changing bag. If you
> shoot some color transparency films then give the Fuji Quick loads and
> the new and improved Kodak Ready load systems a try.<br>
> <br>
> I hope this helps,<br>
> <br>
> Drew<br>
> <br>
> Drew Eschbacher<br>
> Columbia, SC<br>
> dreweschbacher@sc.rr.com<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> At 08:44 AM 4/1/01, you wrote:<br>
> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>I am looking for advice on a
'new'
> LF kit.<br>
> <br>
> To try LF I picked up a Calumet C400 & B&J Press Camera with some
> older lens<br>
> (I primarily use a Wollensak 162 & Kodak 127) & shutters. Well I
> love it and<br>
> have decided to upgrade my kit.<br>
> <br>
> I am interested primarily in landscape photography and I will be taking
> my<br>
> gear backpacking (I have three week-long trips planned in the
> Canadian<br>
> Rockies this summer). It is my expectation that I will end up with a
> normal<br>
> rail camera as well as a field camera, but the field is a priority.<br>
> <br>
> I am looking for:<br>
> <x-tab> </x-tab>- full
> range of movement<br>
> <x-tab> </x-tab>-
> durability<br>
> <x-tab> </x-tab>- light as
> a feather (my 7 & 9 year-old sons think of me as their<br>
> porter)<br>
> <br>
> I am also looking for advice on lens & shutters. In 35mm I normally
> use a<br>
> 24, 28, 100 & 300mm. <br>
> <br>
> Thanks in advance.<br>
> <br>
> Dave Hornford<br>
> <br>
> > "The real reason mountain climbers tie themselves together is
> to keep the<br>
> > sensible ones from going home."<br>
> > - Anon - Sign at Alpine Shoe Repair
> (Calgary)<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> <br>
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