[Jacob-list] LGDs

Wed Aug 2 20:12:27 EDT 2006

I've only had female Danes (five of them over the last 30 years).  I think my post recommended a female Dane.   I've known a few intact males over the years.  I don't know if it's because they weren't raised the way I raise my dogs, but one of them was a sheep killer.  Another was a poor old guy that some idiot had tried to train as an attack dog. There's not much that is more exciting than having a 200 lb dog grab you by the neck :-)

My female Danes (and all my dogs) are trained to not chase chickens, sheep, cats,  or rabbits from puppyhood.  

Linda

www.patchworkfibers.com
Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn

> Had to jump in here.  I believe it was Linda last year who
> mentioned she had Danes, and they got along well with the animals. 
> It was part of the reason I ended up with them.  2 males.  They
> aren't ever IN the pasture with the animals off leash, but they
> share several common fence lines.  While I think the dogs would be
> fine with the animals, I have a couple llamas that would likely try
> and stomp them to death.  But like Linda's, my Danes are always
> with me, somewhere in the yard or in the house.
>
> Like I said, we have llamas too.  9 of them.  We used to have an
> actual "guard" gelding, but he died this year from Oleander.  Now,
> just by virtue of the fact that we have 9 large llamas, I believe
> our chances of coyote or mountain lion attacks are less.  We leave
> our ewes, pygmy goats and llamas all out at night in a pasture with
> closed gates and a barn.  They usually opt not to use the barn
> except during heavy rains.  We've lived this way for almost 2 years
> and while lots of our neighbors have lots animals to mountain lions
> or foxes, we have not.  We also have 17 free range hens, and have
> seen foxes in neighboring yards, but never on our property.  (They
> go into a locked coop at night though).
>
> I can only assume it's because of the llamas, (and the occasional
> giant barking dog doesn't hurt either!).
>
> Sheri
> Shingle Springs, CA
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Linda
>> To: CARL FOSBRINK ; Debbie Bennett ; Judy Watson Cc: Jacob List
>> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] LGDs
>>
>>
>> We use donkeys. I got my first donkey 40 + years ago and I've
>> always really liked them.  Dave got his first donkey 14 years ago
>> and I guess we'll always have them.  IF we didn't have donkeys, I
>> do believe I'd opt for llamas before dogs.  As Carl says, I do
>> not want to offend, and I do know that many people have dogs that
>> do a really great job.  Around here I just haven't been too
>> impressed by the LGD's I've been around.  By the time you get a
>> fence strong enough to keep them in, the fence is strong enough
>> to keep most anything out.  I don't know if all LGD's bark all
>> the time, but the ones in my neighborhood sure do.
>>
>> My sheep have always gotten along pretty well with my Danes.  It
>> may be because the Danes are usually with me and they are such
>> calm dogs.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> www.patchworkfibers.com
>> Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn
>>
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>  I do not intend to offend anyone that has guard dogs and if it
>>> works for them that is great.  We have guard llamas and I can
>>> not say enough good things about the job they do. The Jacobs
>>> like them and they guard the Jacobs very well. Woe be to any
>>> dog that gets into the Jacob pasture.  The last dog that got
>>> into the pasture was howling to get out and I had to go rescue
>>> him because the ram was bouncing him off the fence.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie Bennett wrote:
>>>> We use llamas to guard. It amazes me that your Jacobs will
>>>> accept any dog, regardless of breed. My Jacobs beat up dogs:
>>>> the neighbor's pit bulls, the old lab we used to have, a
>>>> couple different herding dogs, etc.
>>>> We now have a German shepherd/hunting dog cross as our family
>>>> dog. The sheep have "accepted" him better than any other dog
>>>> we've tried. The Jacobs beat him up a couple times and he
>>>> pretty much ignores them. He does however, catch up chickens
>>>> when they stray into the garden and has helped us herd a
>>>> couple stray lambs. He does this by cornering and holding the
>>>> stray until we get there (the hunting instincts) and the
>>>> other night, he rescued a chicken - couldn't see in the dark,
>>>> exactly what had gotten a hold of it, but he chased off the
>>>> predator and held onto the chicken, so we were able to put it
>>>> back in the barn relatively unharmed (missing a few
>>>> feathers). Debbie Bennett Feral Fibre Farm Oakland, Oregon On
>>>> Jul 28, 2006, at 5:31 AM, Judy Watson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Elaina,
>>>>> I think it depends a lot on where you are located and
>>>>> whether you are buying a show dog or not. In Texas it is
>>>>> common to see pups for
>>>>> $150 to $200, but I see "breeding stock" (read city bred &
>>>>> raised) dogs
>>>>> for up to and over $1000. I have 2 Anatolians and 1
>>>>> Anatolian/Great Pyr. mix and am extremely pleased with all
>>>>> of them and would trade any of them for a truck load of
>>>>> gold. I think it is important to try to get
>>>>> pups from actual working parents, and it is best that they
>>>>> be born and grow up around livestock, although this is not
>>>>> always necessary as the best Anatolian I have was a
>>>>> "rescue" and had been kept in isolated in a
>>>>> small cage for the first 5 months of her life before I got
>>>>> her. She bonded right away with my herd. I also would never
>>>>> hesitate to have another cross as long as it is a cross
>>>>> between LGD breeds (and not something else like a herding
>>>>> dog, hunting dog, etc).
>>>>>
>>>>> ================================================= Judy
>>>>> Watson 325-938-5403 hm. Rt. 2 Box 287 325-451-0209 cell 330
>>>>> CR 427 Goldthwaite, TX 76844
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I-Diamond-I Ranch www.IDiamondI.com
>>>>> ================================================================= Does
>>>>>   anyone know "typical" prices for various breeds of LGD
>>>>> puppy? e.g.
>>>>> Great Pyrenees, Anatolian, Maremma, etc. A friend asked me
>>>>> to post this question. Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Elaina M. Kenyon
>>>>> http://www.avillionfarm.com
>>>>> Shetland sheep, angora goats, angora rabbits
>>>>>
>>>>>
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