[flow-tools] Version 8 Accuracy?

Darren Smith data@barrysworld.com
Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:29:17 -0000


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Hi folks

Just a quick question to ask why my data is wildly inaccurate.

I'm using Cisco 7401 routers and the latest IOS, that was recommended by =
Cisco for netflow support.

I've been capturing data from 3 formats, Version5, Version 8.1 & Version =
8.2.

What i'm trying to work out is why the data varies so much, in terms of =
number of flows/octets/packets.

6104 -rw-r--r--  1 netflow netflow  6236050 Dec 17 10:45 =
ft-v05.2002-12-17.103000+0000
6      -rw-r--r--  1 netflow netflow  5655      Dec 17 10:45  =
ft-v08m01.2002-12-17.103001+0000
120   -rw-r--r--  1 netflow netflow 106610   Dec 17 10:45  =
ft-v08m02.2002-12-17.103001+0000

All formats were recorded at the same time:

RESULTS - VERSION 8: PROTOCOL/PORT=20

flow-stat < ft-v08m02.2002-12-17.103001+0000
#  --- ---- ---- Report Information --- --- ---
Total Flows                     : 10295
Total Octets                    : 120494986
Total Packets                   : 300716
Total Time (1/1000 secs) (flows): 76336528
Duration of data  (realtime)    : 892
Duration of data (1/1000 secs)  : 2635936
Average flow time (1/1000 secs) : 7414.0000
Average packet size (octets)    : 400.0000
Average flow size (octets)      : 11704.0000
Average packets per flow        : 29.0000
Average flows / second (flow)   : 3.9070
Average flows / second (real)   : 11.5415
Average Kbits / second (flow)   : 365.8292
Average Kbits / second (real)   : 1080.6725

VERSION 8: AS

flow-stat < ft-v08m01.2002-12-17.103001+0000
#  --- ---- ---- Report Information --- --- ---
Total Flows                     : 8652
Total Octets                    : 107648685
Total Packets                   : 286225
Total Time (1/1000 secs) (flows): 27977956
Duration of data  (realtime)    : 896
Duration of data (1/1000 secs)  : 2638076
Average flow time (1/1000 secs) : 3233.0000
Average packet size (octets)    : 376.0000
Average flow size (octets)      : 12442.0000
Average packets per flow        : 33.0000
Average flows / second (flow)   : 3.2798
Average flows / second (real)   : 9.6562
Average Kbits / second (flow)   : 326.4555
Average Kbits / second (real)   : 961.1490

VERSION 5: ALL

flow-stat < ft-v05.2002-12-17.103000+0000
#  --- ---- ---- Report Information --- --- ---
Total Flows                     : 324870
Total Octets                    : 5477546032
Total Packets                   : 8675132
Total Time (1/1000 secs) (flows): 2522453479
Duration of data  (realtime)    : 900
Duration of data (1/1000 secs)  : 2715433
Average flow time (1/1000 secs) : 7764.0000
Average packet size (octets)    : 631.0000
Average flow size (octets)      : 16860.0000
Average packets per flow        : 26.0000
Average flows / second (flow)   : 119.6575
Average flows / second (real)   : 360.9667
Average Kbits / second (flow)   : 16140.0987
Average Kbits / second (real)   : 48689.2976


I would have thought the values should have been similar? not identical =
perhaps due to the slight time differences...

Incidentally, there were 326 lost flows in the 'version5 export' and 0 =
lost flows in the other two.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards

Darren Smith
Game Digital Ltd
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi folks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just a quick question to ask why my =
data is wildly=20
inaccurate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using Cisco 7401 routers and the =
latest IOS,=20
that was recommended by Cisco for netflow support.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've been capturing data from 3 =
formats, Version5,=20
Version 8.1 &amp; Version 8.2.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What i'm trying to work out is why the =
data varies=20
so much, in terms of number of flows/octets/packets.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6104 -rw-r--r--&nbsp; 1&nbsp;netflow =
netflow&nbsp;=20
6236050 Dec 17=20
10:45&nbsp;ft-v05.2002-12-17.103000+0000<BR>6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
-rw-r--r--&nbsp; 1&nbsp;netflow&nbsp;netflow&nbsp;=20
5655&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dec 17 10:45&nbsp;=20
ft-v08m01.2002-12-17.103001+0000<BR>120&nbsp;&nbsp; -rw-r--r--&nbsp;=20
1&nbsp;netflow netflow&nbsp;106610&nbsp;&nbsp; Dec 17 10:45&nbsp;=20
ft-v08m02.2002-12-17.103001+0000<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All formats were recorded at the same=20
time:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RESULTS - VERSION 8: PROTOCOL/PORT =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flow-stat &lt;=20
ft-v08m02.2002-12-17.103001+0000<BR>#&nbsp; --- ---- ---- Report =
Information ---=20
--- ---<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Total=20
Flows&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: 10295<BR>Total=20
Octets&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: 120494986<BR>Total=20
Packets&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: 300716<BR>Total Time (1/1000 secs) (flows): 76336528<BR>Duration of =
data&nbsp;=20
(realtime)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 892<BR>Duration of data (1/1000 =
secs)&nbsp; :=20
2635936<BR>Average flow time (1/1000 secs) : 7414.0000<BR>Average packet =
size=20
(octets)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 400.0000<BR>Average flow size=20
(octets)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 11704.0000<BR>Average packets =
per=20
flow&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 29.0000<BR>Average =
flows /=20
second (flow)&nbsp;&nbsp; : 3.9070<BR>Average flows / second =
(real)&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: 11.5415<BR>Average Kbits / second (flow)&nbsp;&nbsp; : =
365.8292<BR>Average=20
Kbits / second (real)&nbsp;&nbsp; : 1080.6725<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>VERSION 8: AS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flow-stat &lt;=20
ft-v08m01.2002-12-17.103001+0000<BR>#&nbsp; --- ---- ---- Report =
Information ---=20
--- ---<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Total=20
Flows&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: 8652<BR>Total=20
Octets&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: 107648685<BR>Total=20
Packets&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: 286225<BR>Total Time (1/1000 secs) (flows): 27977956<BR>Duration of =
data&nbsp;=20
(realtime)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 896<BR>Duration of data (1/1000 =
secs)&nbsp; :=20
2638076<BR>Average flow time (1/1000 secs) : 3233.0000<BR>Average packet =
size=20
(octets)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 376.0000<BR>Average flow size=20
(octets)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 12442.0000<BR>Average packets =
per=20
flow&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 33.0000<BR>Average =
flows /=20
second (flow)&nbsp;&nbsp; : 3.2798<BR>Average flows / second =
(real)&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: 9.6562<BR>Average Kbits / second (flow)&nbsp;&nbsp; : =
326.4555<BR>Average=20
Kbits / second (real)&nbsp;&nbsp; : 961.1490<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>VERSION 5: ALL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flow-stat &lt;=20
ft-v05.2002-12-17.103000+0000<BR>#&nbsp; --- ---- ---- Report =
Information ---=20
--- ---<BR>Total=20
Flows&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: 324870<BR>Total=20
Octets&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: 5477546032<BR>Total=20
Packets&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
: 8675132<BR>Total Time (1/1000 secs) (flows): 2522453479<BR>Duration of =

data&nbsp; (realtime)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 900<BR>Duration of data =
(1/1000=20
secs)&nbsp; : 2715433<BR>Average flow time (1/1000 secs) : =
7764.0000<BR>Average=20
packet size (octets)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 631.0000<BR>Average flow size=20
(octets)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 16860.0000<BR>Average packets =
per=20
flow&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 26.0000<BR>Average =
flows /=20
second (flow)&nbsp;&nbsp; : 119.6575<BR>Average flows / second=20
(real)&nbsp;&nbsp; : 360.9667<BR>Average Kbits / second =
(flow)&nbsp;&nbsp; :=20
16140.0987<BR>Average Kbits / second (real)&nbsp;&nbsp; :=20
48689.2976<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would have thought the values should =
have been=20
similar? not identical perhaps due to the slight time=20
differences...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Incidentally, there were 326 lost flows =
in the=20
'version5 export' and 0 lost flows in the other two.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any help would be =
appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Darren Smith</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Game Digital =
Ltd</DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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