Ornette Coleman on Nov. 14 Sunday, not Nov. 19

[Gerry Storm]

I believe your research will confirm that it was Ed who was the drummer on
those first NY gigs. Billy, whom I met in Seattle in1991 came along later.

<<have probably had John Coltrane on tenor<<

Most likely...and Cannonball on alto and Bill Evans or Wynton Kelly on
piano, Jimmy Cobb on drums, and Paul Chambers on bass.

The other time I saw him was in 1966 in Austin at the Longhorn Jazz Festival
I. This was the group with Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, Tony Williams, and
Ron Carter. They sailed! As soon as the gig was done they all headed for the
airport--except Miles who hung out and spent the night. I was able to get
near him and eavesdrop on his conversations backstage but don't remember
actually talking to him. I did, however, get to talk to Tony Williams which
was quite a thrill at the time. Never saw John Coltrane live but did see his
wife Alice once in Berkeley.

Ah yes! The good ol' days. I once had a 10 minute chat with Thelonious. And
I was Kenny Dorham's cheaufer (sp) and connection during a glorious weekend
in 1967. They were all nice, especially Kenny who gave me a big hug when I
finally deposited him at the airport.
G
G

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele@hotpop.com>
To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:48 AM
Subject: Ornette Coleman on Nov. 14 Sunday, not Nov. 19


> We used to have all the early Ornette LP albums. To our
> ear his early stuff is as classic as Coltrane. The sidemen
> I remember from him playing at the Five Spot were Don
> Cherry on trumpet and Charlie Haden on bass. I dont
> remember the drummer which according to the Internet
> would have to have been Ed Blackwell or Billy Higgins,
> at least on the records but maybe, just maybe there was
> NO drummer in the live sets. Seems hard to believe but
> Coleman did everything differently. I gotta check on this.
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> I do seem to remember Coleman playing a weird white
> colored plastic saxophone. This would have been around
> 1968.
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> As for Miles in the 1958 period, I count myself blessed
> or at least very lucky to have heard him that winter at a
> black night club on Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn. I do
> remember our table as being the only white table there
> and I remember the perfectly fitted tan fawn colored 3
> piece suit he wore. He didnt look at the audience there
> either. That band  would have probably had John
> Coltrane on tenor but as I didnt know squat about jazz at
> the time, I will never know if I heard Coltrane live or not.
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> As for $45, it isnt $45, its $20 which in these days
> seems pretty cheap. As the house wont be full
> (who the hell knows from Ornette Coleman in Austin?)
> it will be my pleasure to infiltrate from the $20 section
> to the $35 or $45 sections or win a free pair from KUT.
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