why 4? Re: Response
Jon Ford
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Wed Sep 1 02:20:02 2004
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<P><BR><BR></P>Sorry you received four-- i only sent one. </DIV>
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<DIV class=RTE>Jon</DIV>
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<P>>From: Mary Ann Wilson <mbuttons@gate.net> </P>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>>To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: why 4? Re: Response
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:03:08 -0500
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<DIV></DIV>>Jon,
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<DIV></DIV>>I received FOUR of these. One is more than enough. This stuff doesn't belong
<DIV></DIV>>on list.
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<DIV></DIV>>m-a
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<DIV></DIV>>on 8-31-2004 3:13 PM, Jon Ford at jonmfordster@hotmail.com wrote:
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<DIV></DIV>>Mike-- I'm glad you sent out the email from Jim. Although I had previously
<DIV></DIV>>received it from you,I tried to interpret it for the guetto2 folk without
<DIV></DIV>>quoting directly from it, and was met with a hail of hostility; Jim totally
<DIV></DIV>>denied sending it, suggesting indirectly that you had made it all up. I
<DIV></DIV>>still maintain that you were dissed in this case by Wayne and Gerry, but
<DIV></DIV>>Wayne is a big-hearted guy, who can get mad at someone and still be a friend
<DIV></DIV>>(except in my case, in which he totally wiped my out of his email world
<DIV></DIV>>because of a comment I once made about how white celtic skin is most
<DIV></DIV>>beautiful of all, whereas I mantain that the "beauty" of skin color is a
<DIV></DIV>>subjective cultural concept).
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<DIV></DIV>>Jon
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<DIV></DIV>> >From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele@HotPOP.com>
<DIV></DIV>> >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>> >To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
<DIV></DIV>> >Subject: Re: Response
<DIV></DIV>> >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:47:42 -0600
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<DIV></DIV>> >From: "Pepi Plowman" <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
<DIV></DIV>> >To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
<DIV></DIV>> >Cc: "Ghetto 2" <GHETTO2@LISTSERV.WHATHELPS.COM>
<DIV></DIV>> >Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:28 PM
<DIV></DIV>> >Subject: Re: Response
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<DIV></DIV>> > > Mike, you remind me of Don Quixote, fighting
<DIV></DIV>> > > windmills! You want to pick a fight whether there's
<DIV></DIV>> > > one there or not! Is this a late midlife crisis, or
<DIV></DIV>> > > what? You send a blip out of the blue talking about
<DIV></DIV>> > > how you were insulted by an e-mail sent by Jim Strong,
<DIV></DIV>> > > but you don't forward the e-mail. There's no way to
<DIV></DIV>> > > know what Jim meant without seeing it, albeit he
<DIV></DIV>> > > rightly figured it was personal.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >It was personal but he posted it both to me and
<DIV></DIV>> >to agl. I should have allowed it to go through but
<DIV></DIV>> >it was so creepy I was ashamed to.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >That was a mistake it seems. Here's his email
<DIV></DIV>> >in its entirety
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >START HERE
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >--- Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@HotPOP.com> wrote:
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<DIV></DIV>> > > http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/469781.html
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > very long interview with Theodorakis the great Greek
<DIV></DIV>> > > composer by an Israeli journalist
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > he is full of it just like Jim Strong and others but
<DIV></DIV>> > > more nuanced.
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > > here's a snippet
<DIV></DIV>> >=================
<DIV></DIV>> > <reply>
<DIV></DIV>> > what a pathetic, whiney little schnorra weasel you
<DIV></DIV>> >are mikey ... i. e. Gai kakhen afenyam ....
<DIV></DIV>> > or, in the laternative, go engage in your favorite
<DIV></DIV>> >pasttime - anal (and/or) banal intercourse with your
<DIV></DIV>> >significant other doppleganager ...
<DIV></DIV>> > maybe you should try to get another waiter job -
<DIV></DIV>> >and avoid being fired this time for being a flaming
<DIV></DIV>> >asshole with the customers ...
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >peace and have another xanax.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >STOP HERE
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >I shouldnt have showed to Madelon as it upset her.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >What set him off I don't know. I said that Theodorakis
<DIV></DIV>> >and Jim Strong and others are full of it. The expression
<DIV></DIV>> >"full of it" seems so anodyne so what set him off?
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >Pepi, I want you to know that I take pills for my male
<DIV></DIV>> >menopause and the tests show that it is under control.
<DIV></DIV>> >The figures are in range and that's science. Unlike
<DIV></DIV>> >FHR (female hormone replacement) medication ours
<DIV></DIV>> >is distilled from horny stallion pee.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >Pepi also said
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<DIV></DIV>> > > You are developing paranoid conceptualizations,
<DIV></DIV>> > > as ever, as you enumerate at length friends and
<DIV></DIV>> > > acquaintances in consideration of their possible
<DIV></DIV>> > > view of you.
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<DIV></DIV>> >At length? This is so unfair. Jon Ford mistakenly
<DIV></DIV>> >identified Wayne Johnson (40 year friendship)
<DIV></DIV>> >and Gerry Storm as having dissed me on
<DIV></DIV>> >JSDGMLG2.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >I wrote merely to disabuse him of an error. Jon
<DIV></DIV>> >has never even MET Wayne. Gerry I know from
<DIV></DIV>> >the Raw Deal. Jon Ford spoke ONLY of Wayne
<DIV></DIV>> >and Gerry.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >I shoulda stopped there. But at the keyboard a
<DIV></DIV>> >counterbalancing contrast seemed to be needed.
<DIV></DIV>> >So I named JS, Simmons, Ted Samsel and
<DIV></DIV>> >Fontaine also as folks who really REALLY dont like
<DIV></DIV>> >me. Pepi, that aint paranoid conceptualizations,
<DIV></DIV>> >that's simply the way it is. It's only 4 people, it's
<DIV></DIV>> >not a big deal. Sorry it's such a problem for you.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >Afterwards Wayne confirmed my claim of friendship.
<DIV></DIV>> >And Gerry publicly giggled at Wayne's revelation of the
<DIV></DIV>> >LEGUME conspiracy against me.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >You're right about email being an imperfect medium.
<DIV></DIV>> >I have always thought that the charm of OUR maillist
<DIV></DIV>> >was that we knew each other in real life and saw
<DIV></DIV>> >one another at parties. So when reading Karen or
<DIV></DIV>> >Connie or other folks that we actually know in real life,
<DIV></DIV>> >it always strikes me how lifelike their emails are,
<DIV></DIV>> >you can almost hearing them speaking, it is SO them.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >As compared to folks one knows ONLY through
<DIV></DIV>> >email.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >I think the problem with my letters is that the
<DIV></DIV>> >charm of full self-expression is too tempting for
<DIV></DIV>> >me. My self-expression IS different from the
<DIV></DIV>> >usual Texan sensibility, I know that. But my view
<DIV></DIV>> >is that if I find myself living among folks with a
<DIV></DIV>> >more buttoned-up sensibility, the last thing I
<DIV></DIV>> >would do in my whole life would be to adopt it.
<DIV></DIV>> >Alas, this decision does not easily make me
<DIV></DIV>> >friends nor do I have any ambition to run for
<DIV></DIV>> >elected office.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >It's like Jack Nicholson at the end of the Sean
<DIV></DIV>> >Penn directed movie The Pledge where
<DIV></DIV>> >Nicholson is sitting on the porch of his lakeside
<DIV></DIV>> >house drinking a beer and arguing with himself
<DIV></DIV>> >with gestures. Or is it?
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<DIV></DIV>> >Mike
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<DIV></DIV>>-- Mary Ann Wilson
<DIV></DIV>>mbuttons@gate.net
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