Plane talk
Wayne Johnson
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Fri Jun 4 12:41:03 2004
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Anyone who got their whole crew through WW2 raids across the Channel get =
very high marks! The B29, although started by Boeing in the early =
forties only saw service (I think) in the Pacific campaign in late '44 =
and '45. It was a marked improvement over everything flying until then =
and was pretty much immune to fighter-interceptors because of its =
ability to get, as I recall, above 45,000 feet. I think it was fully =
pressurised, while the 29 and 24s were not. I think the 26s were not =
and I don't think any Brit built plane was pressurised. I think they =
had Pratt & Whitney engines, but were not turbo-charged until the Korean =
war. Details fade with time. The Enola Gay is now a center-piece to =
the new Smithsonian Air Museum over at Dulles. =20
B-52s saw their first active duty in Viet Nam. They are now older than =
some of the crews that fly them out of Diego Garcia and other places. =
BUFFs they are called. Big Ugly Fat Fellows. Incredibly piece of =
machinery. Right in there with the top multi-engine designs of all =
time. My list starts, of course, with the venerable Dc-3 which is still =
flying and can be literally built again from the ground up. The 747 =
must also be a landmark of aeronautical engineering and I think they =
might still be flying well into the next century.
wj
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Connie Clark=20
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net=20
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Sociable Insecurity
Byron Black <blacky@cbn.net.id> wrote:Enough money and I'd go live =
like a rich hillbilly in West Sumatra. There are still wild places, ah, =
rugged mountains and rough wild beaches...
Now this picture, I like.
Byron, one of the bombers you mentioned (B17 and B29) was the =
'Liberator' and the other was the 'Flying Fortress', correct? Then the =
B52 was around a long time. My roommate's father was a crewman for the =
fortress, I think, out of England late in the war. All of his crew =
survived. He still has the original maintenance manual.
CC
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone who got their whole crew through =
WW2 raids=20
across the Channel get very high marks! The B29, although started =
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Boeing in the early forties only saw service (I think) in the Pacific =
campaign=20
in late '44 and '45. It was a marked improvement over everything =
flying=20
until then and was pretty much immune to fighter-interceptors because of =
its=20
ability to get, as I recall, above 45,000 feet. I think it was =
fully=20
pressurised, while the 29 and 24s were not. I think the 26s were =
not and I=20
don't think any Brit built plane was pressurised. I think they had =
Pratt & Whitney engines, but were not turbo-charged until the =
Korean=20
war. Details fade with time. The Enola Gay is now a =
center-piece to=20
the new Smithsonian Air Museum over at Dulles. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>B-52s saw their first active duty in =
Viet=20
Nam. They are now older than some of the crews that fly them out =
of Diego=20
Garcia and other places. BUFFs they are called. Big Ugly Fat =
Fellows. Incredibly piece of machinery. Right in there with =
the top=20
multi-engine designs of all time. My list starts, of course, with =
the=20
venerable Dc-3 which is still flying and can be literally built again =
from the=20
ground up. The 747 must also be a landmark of aeronautical =
engineering and=20
I think they might still be flying well into the next =
century.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>wj</FONT></DIV>
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Insecurity</DIV>
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wrote:<FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>Enough money and I'd go live like a rich =
hillbilly in West=20
Sumatra. There are still wild places, ah, rugged mountains and rough =
wild=20
beaches...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Now this picture, I like.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Byron, one of the bombers you =
mentioned (B17=20
and B29) was the 'Liberator' and the other was the 'Flying =
Fortress',=20
correct? Then the B52 was around a long time. My=20
roommate's father was a crewman for the fortress, I =
think, out=20
of England late in the war. All of his crew survived. =
He still=20
has the original maintenance manual.</DIV>
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