so-called Stanford experiment but please stay tuned
Wayne Johnson
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Thu May 20 18:33:02 2004
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So. Mike. Did you read the attachement or not? Just curious to see if =
it downloaded ok. If not, I can send two simple .rtf files which aren't =
all that big.
wayne
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Michael Eisenstadt=20
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net=20
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 4:40 PM
Subject: so-called Stanford experiment but please stay tuned
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
there is a 1974 book by a gent named Milgram
which is down the street at the Austin Public=20
library; their catalogue says its on the shelf.
i thought it only fair to mention this BEFORE looking
at the book.=20
that Stanford Univ students would descend to=20
seriously abusive behavior of their fellow students
the students being arbitrarily divided into jailers and=20
prisoners is so counter-intuitive (to my sense of=20
reality) that whether true or not (I'm betting its an=20
imposture), it explains it being so quickly becoming
a received truth, it tickles the fancy of the non-subtle.=20
now this gent, Stanley Milgram, was on Jim Lehrer's
News last week. very odd looking, extremely tanned
(or jaundiced) strangely sculptured planes making
up his face, a beard -- natch! -- and a strangely high
piping voice.
he was introduced as thought he was the experimenter
at Stanford nor did he point out that no, he wasn't=20
the experimenter but the author of a book that cited
it.
I quickly phoned Frances to alert her to watch Channel=20
9 and see Milgram. She had mentioned this so-called
experiment to me a day or so before and at that time
I had poohpoohed as most likely bogus.
Well, I'm off to the library to get the book. At worst
I will be proved wrong, this does happen from time=20
to time.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So. Mike. Did you read the =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>wayne</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 20, 2004 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> so-called Stanford =
experiment=20
but please stay tuned</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
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href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment">http://en.wikipe=
dia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>there is a 1974 book by a gent named =
Milgram</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>which is down the street at the Austin Public =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>library; their catalogue says its on the =
shelf.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>i thought it only fair to mention this BEFORE =
looking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>at the book. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>that Stanford Univ students would descend to =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>seriously abusive behavior of their fellow=20
students</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>the students being arbitrarily divided into =
jailers and=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>prisoners is so counter-intuitive (to my sense =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>reality) that whether true or not (I'm betting its =
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>an </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>imposture), it explains it being so quickly=20
becoming</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>a received truth, it tickles the fancy of the=20
non-subtle.</FONT><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>now this gent, Stanley Milgram, was on Jim=20
Lehrer's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>News last week. very odd looking, extremely=20
tanned</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(or jaundiced) strangely sculptured planes=20
making</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>up his face, a beard -- natch! -- and a =
strangely=20
high</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>piping voice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>he was introduced as thought he was the=20
experimenter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>at Stanford nor did he point out that no, he =
wasn't=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>the experimenter but the author of a book that=20
cited</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I quickly phoned Frances to alert her to watch =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>Channel </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>9 and see Milgram. She had mentioned this=20
so-called</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>experiment to me a day or so before and at that=20
time</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I had poohpoohed as most likely =
bogus.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Well, I'm off to the library to get the book. At=20
worst</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I will be proved wrong, this does happen from time =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>to time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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