Is Roger chicken shit?camels?

Thu, 06 Dec 2001 15:42:57 -0800

Hey, strong-o, what's wrong with a little camel information? I don't 
consider myself ranting on that score-- just kidding around and spreading a 
little ordure! Check your irony-meter. However, I agree with what you say 
about the Mike/Roger exchange. These guys have been at it forever, and Mike 
is clearly using a cattle-prod approach to get Roger to say something 
anti-semitic so he can sit back and say "I told you so--Roger is a secret 
Nazi" and dismiss his every utterance from here on out. The right tried that 
with Noam Chomsky, with limited success, but this is supposed to be a more 
friendly sort of forum. Maybe not. As for you, Jim-Bill, I caution you about 
criticizing Mike  too heavily-- the last guy who tried that got kicked off 
the list by the "master," despite a vote that went 3 to 1 against his 
unilateral decision.

Jon

>From: Jim Strong <strongjim@yahoo.com>
>To: frances_morey@excite.com, Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@ando.pair.com>, 
>austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>Subject: Re: Is Roger chicken shit?
>Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 05:38:24 -0800 (PST)
>
>Hokay! This exchange between Mike and Roger is becomin
>lively (that's fine) and taking on overtones of the
>blathering rhetoric (not fine) that posturing,
>bellicose guv-mints engage in before they swing a few
>at each other.
>---------------------------------------------------
>Mike - the Hamas (and others of similar bent)have
>about as much chance of taking out Israel as the
>Austin High football team has of routing the Oakland
>Raiders. Better to toss your favorite toy poodle in
>with a pack of pit bulls and hope for victory.
>----------------------------------------------------
>Roger - when your historical memory includes the
>systematized round up and killing and gassing of
>millions of your genetic brothers and sisters from all
>walks of life for absolutely no good reason, you too
>might be a bit sensitive to political tracts that
>suggest the eventual disappearance of what you might
>view as your current literal or spiritual homeland.
>-----------------------------------------------------
>BUT -
>-----------------------------------------------------
>When that escalates Mike's personal frustration to the
>point of suggesting "knocking (Roger's) teeth down
>(his) throat," that's as far as it should go and
>hopefully you both will realize that the whole idea of
>the Ghetto and what went on there in the 60's was one
>of a free forum where all ideas could have their day
>and rise, fall or just sit there based upon their own
>(perceived) merit.
>-----------------------------------------------------
>Case in point (last time I'll say it):
>Conversation with a then liberal John Silber at Gil's
>house after about a liter of Paisano.
>-------------------------------------------
>SUBJECT: Silber wanted to bounce the Southern
>Conservatives out of the Democrat Party.
>-------------------------------------------
>"Geee, John, if we're not careful we will lose all the
>benefits of an interchange of ideas, and we will
>manage to do to the Democrats what the Republicans
>haven't been able to do."
>-------------------------------------------
>Silber disagreed, of course and went on to become an
>arch conservative wannabe politician himself up in
>Boston.
>THE POINT IS, we need to be able to TALK about ideas
>or things we may disagree with violently without
>discarding each other as worthwhile people or pounding
>on each other.
>-------------------------------------------
>Michael, please call off the Sayeret Duvdevan and
>Shayetet 13. Roger, try to understand this is a sore
>point with Michael based upon some agonizing
>historical memory.
>-------------------------------------------
>Jon's camel rantings are bad enough without topping
>them with "chickenshit."
>-------------------------------------------
>Billy Jim
>
>
>
>--- Frances Morey <Frances_Morey@excite.com> wrote:
> > Mike,
> > As a former Jew, ie. one who does not practice or
> > adhere to the faith of
> > Judaism, you sure are thin skinned on the subject.
> > Frances
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 08:35:22 -0600, Michael
> > Eisenstadt wrote:
> >
> > >  Roger,
> > >
> > >  Your literary skills have improved immensely
> > since
> > >  you got into computers a few years ago. Writing
> > >  lotsa emails since I got my first computer in
> > >  1994, I too have noticed increased fluency.
> > >
> > >  Your post this morning asked what I was getting
> > >  at in expressing the hope of running into you
> > >  soon. Your ear is excellent. I had written "I
> > >  feel like knocking your teeth down your throat"
> > >  but then I deleted it.
> > >
> > >  Fisk refers to Sharon's out of control rabble
> > >  of an army. He denies the right of Israel to
> > >  exist. This is an expression of ULTRA anti-
> > >  Israel prejudice. If you poisonally hold these
> > >  views, don't be surprised at my animus.
> > >
> > >  As for censoring your speech, as you should
> > >  already know, that is above my pay grade.
> > >
> > >  Are these your views? Or are you too chicken
> > >  shit to admit it?
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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