[W124] 230CE '92 ABS and other queries

[Declan Mc Dermott]

Hi Frank/Steve.

I think the 230CE probably has the 8-pole diagnostic socket which would have 
no capability of pulling fault codes from the N57 module.
The 230CE does use the M102 engine but I beleive was only imported into the 
U.S. in saloon form.
Mcercedes Benz U.S. will not send the CDs outside of the U.S. You can 
generally pick copies up on E-Bay (U.K.) for a few quid.
By the way did you sort your ABS problem ?  It may be worthwhile checking 
that both front wheels and tyres are EXACTLY the same size as any slight 
difference - even down to two differant tyre manufacturers - can cause the 
ABS light to come on at speed. You should also check that there is no 
excessive play in the front wheel bearings as this can also cause errant 
signals.
Regards,
Dec.


>From: Steve Nervig <dakota at mac.com>
>Reply-To: W124 CE Coupes and Convertibles <w124list at mbcoupes.com>
>To: W124 CE Coupes and Convertibles <w124list at mbcoupes.com>
>Subject: Re: [W124] 230CE '92 ABS and other queries
>Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:01:44 -0700
>
>Not sure which page you are referring to, Frank. Is it this one?  
><http://pages.prodigy.net/jforgione/MB_CF.html>
>
>Would be interesting to see if you can pull those codes on a W124.  His 
>codes are on a V8 powered W140, so the W124 N57 may not have all  of the 
>capability that it does.
>
>I suspect that the codes are read with an ODB from the pins 1, 2 and  21 
>from the diagnostic plug in the engine compartment.
>
>BTW, I think you can order the MB Service Library CDs direct from MB- USA 
>(US$40, I think now). Not positive they will ship out of the US  though. 
>Also, note that the CDs only cover MBs that were imported  into USA, 
>although much information is interchangeable. Does the  230CE have the 
>4-cyl M102 engine?
>
>Regards,
>Steve
>
>
>On May 14, 2006, at 2:32 PM, Frank Smyth wrote:
>
>>No, no worries Steve, all of this is still a help. If the worst  comes to 
>>the worst, I can always fit the alarm's window-closure box  into the 
>>wiring that's nicely available at the N57 location :-)  it'll be minus the 
>>sunroof closure though.
>>
>>I'll have a look on ebay for the workshop manuals/electrical  diagrams 
>>CDs.
>>
>>Yep, it's a coupe, not a convertible but the front seats are heated  so 
>>perhaps that yellow box looks after that as you reckon.
>>
>>BTW here's an interesting page (and the whole of the website is  indeed 
>>interesting) that shows that the N57 is supposed to be able  to report 
>>diagnostic information. No idea how/where yet, but it's  interesting 
>>stuff.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Frank
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: w124list-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of Steve Nervig
>>Sent: Sun 14/05/2006 20:32
>>To: W124 CE Coupes and Convertibles
>>Subject: Re: [W124] 230CE '92 ABS and other queries
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi Frank,
>>
>>Sorry that didn't work, Frank.
>>
>>I've shuffled my web site around a bit. New addy is <http://
>>web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Parts/Relay.html> for the relay, and I've now
>>included the wire diagram pages from the ETM (Electrical
>>Troubleshooting Manual) for the power windows and the sliding roof.
>>Also the job for adjusting the roof.
>>
>>I've also added a photo showing the N57 relay removed and my car,
>>unlike yours, does not have that yellow relay beneath it, so I don't
>>know what that is. Yours is not a convertible is it? Do you have
>>heated seats? Could be front seat heater control N25/5.
>>
>>Not sure what zip file you are talking about, unless it is from my
>>Index page. The Index will be of no use to you unless you have the MB
>>Service Library CDs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On May 14, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Frank Smyth wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Steve
>>>
>>>I whipped out the relay-box as suggested, but no difference -
>>>sunroof still pops up to "tilt". I wonder if the built-in
>>>microswitch, assuming there is one, is done for. Unfortunately the
>>>wiring diagram in the Haynes manual is useless - it doesn't show
>>>that convenience-control box under the seats. Nor does it show the
>>>sunroof mechanism on the diagram.
>>>
>>>There's another box in that well, ominous in yellow: http://  <http:///>
>>>mx5ireland.com/members/frank/benz/DSC05825.JPG
>>>and then another in the well on the other side of the car: http://  
>>><http:///>
>>>mx5ireland.com/members/frank/benz/DSC05835.JPG
>>>
>>>Will try to recreate the workshop manuals from the zip file later
>>>(first attempt failed - CD1 and CD2 folders only have a 7kb
>>>DS_Store file in each). Hopefully there's a wiring diagram in there
>>>
>>>Thanks for the help - and the pictures
>>>Frank
>
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