[W124] Wiring harness
Jay
j.hirsch at mac.com
Sat Sep 10 01:04:25 EDT 2005
Is this wiring defect on 1990 and earlier MB's?
Jay
On Sep 9, 2005, at 5:08 PM, GEOFFREY COTTON wrote:
> According to my local garage they contacted MB and they admitted the
> position of the wiring room was a design fault.
> I believe the 93-94 models had an iimproved loom in a different
> location.
>
> GC Scotland
>
> Robert Archigian <robertaarchigian at hotmail.com>wrote:
> Had the Harness in question replaced about 30k ago.
> It was explained that some erstwhile engineers trying to justify their
> salary took it upoon themselves to change the origin of the insulation
> to a
> diferennent substance, not realizing that it dried our , frayed and
> could
> catch fire!! Ah Hem!
> My babby of course is a prime example of good care. '93 300CE 272,000
> Just won popular vote at MBCA Jamboree in Montvale.
> Thats My Honey.
> Listen to your machine and you cannot go wrong.
> Bob Archigian
> '93CE9Sportline)
> 270k
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: acordova at texas.net
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> Hmm. They used the M104 in the 300CE, at least in the US, starting in
> 1990
> model year, with an upgrade to the Bosch fuel injection system
> starting in
> 91.
> I wonder just when they started using the evil wiring in US 300CE's.
>
> Alec
>
> Quoting GEOFFREY COTTON:
>
> > I own a 92 320CE which has just done 126k miles it also has suffered
> with
> a
> > problematic engine wiring loom.
> >
> > Very expensive over here the loom is about £1200 plus
> > fitting.............ooochh.
> >
> > Geoff Cotton Scotland
> >
> > acordova at texas.net wrote:
> > Do you have a 92 coupe with an M103? What country?
> >
> > AFAIK the M104 was in use in the coupes starting at least in the 1990
> > model
> > year, I think they didn't switch the W124 sedans over to the M104
> till
> 93,
> > and
> > that's when they started using the new wiring harness on all M104
> family
> > engines. Maybe even 94.
> >
> > If you have an M103, then you're probably safe from this issue. You
> only
> > have
> > the oil appetites to deal with, like the M103 on my 89 300CE. I don't
> hold
> > it
> > against her, though. I like my beer, she likes her oil. Fair enough
> as
> long
> > as
> > neither of us drools. ;-)
> >
> > Alec Cordova
> > Taylor, Texas
> > 89 300CE, 192K
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Luke Moorhead :
> >
> > > Mine's a '92 with a M103 engine (and presumably therefore has some
> > > Teutonically indestructible material like space shuttle thermal
> tile
> > glue
> > > !!!) , but I'll keep my eye out for probs.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Luke
> > >
> > > Luke Moorhead
> > > Storage Capacity Analyst
> > > Unilever Europe IT
> > > e-mail : luke.moorhead at unilever.com
> > > jabber : luke.moorhead at im.unilever.com
> > > utn : 7656 1412
> > > phone : +44(0)1244 50 1412
> > > mobile : +44(0)7990 64 7955
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: w124list-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:w124list-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> > > On Beh alf Of acordova at texas.net
> > > Sent: 09 September 2005 14:30
> > > To: w124list at mbcoupes.com
> > > Subject: Re: [W124] Re: W124list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1
> > >
> > > Have experienced this with a 95 C280, my understanding is that MB
> tried
> > to
> > > switch to an insulation material that was easier to recycle.
> Turned out
> > > the
> > > stuff wanted to recycle itself a little early.
> > >
> > > I thought the new wiring was applied the M119 V8 family starting
> around
> > 92
> > > and
> > > the M104 I6 family starting around 93, for all applications of
> these
> > > motors
> > > (201, 124, 140, etc.). By 96 or 97, they figured out the stuff
> didn't
> > > last
> > > and corrected it for new stock.
> > >
> > > If you have it replaced, have it done by someone familiar with the
> cars.
> > I
> > > believe the engine computer(s) need a little ret raining after the
> wiring
> > > swap.
> > > I just wish I hadn't had so much faith in my non-MB-specialist
> friend
> > when
> > > this happened to us.
> > >
> > > Alec Cordova
> > > Taylor, Texas
> > > 89 300CE, 192K
> > >
> > > Quoting Cliffordcmsn at aol.com:
> > >
> > > > Just a note about MB electrical problems.... they used some sort
> of
> > weird
> > >
> > > > wiring on the 124 models, and they go bad about every ten years
> or
> so?
> > > > Usually
> > > > everyone tries to trouble shoot the problems but eventually finds
> that
> > > the
> > > > main
> > > > wiring harness is really bad. I replaced mine, what a difference
> it
> > > make,
> > > i
> > > >
> > > > have a 93 320 coupe with about 126 on the clock. thanks cliff
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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