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<DIV><FONT size=3>Good morning,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>I can see a mistake in the b/m message.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>13820, Die Schwalbe N°222: no WSg1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>1krs2sr/pp3ppp/8/1qbppb2/8/3S4/PPP1PPPP/RSBQKB1R</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>White : Ke1 Qd1 Ra1h1 Bc1f1 Sd3b1 Pa2b2c2e2f2g2h2<BR>Black : Kb8 Qb5 Rc8h8 Bc5f5 Sd8g8 Pa7b7f7g7h7d5e5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>SPG 11.5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>b)WSd3>c3</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>I hope that the published diagram is correct.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Thank you in advance.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Best wishes.<BR>Guy. <BR></FONT><BR><BR>--- En date de : <B>Ven 22.8.08, retros-request@janko.at <I><retros-request@janko.at></I></B> a écrit :<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">De: retros-request@janko.at <retros-request@janko.at><BR>Objet: Retros Digest, Vol 46, Issue 4<BR>À: retros@janko.at<BR>Date: Vendredi 22 Août 2008, 11h51<BR><BR><PRE>Send Retros mailing list submissions to
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Today's Topics:
1. Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008 (Joost de Heer)
2. Re: Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008 (Bernd Gr?frath)
3. Re: Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008 (Andrej Jakobcic)
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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:41:56 +0200
From: Joost de Heer <joost@sanguis.xs4all.nl>
Subject: [Retros] Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008
To: The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List <retros@janko.at>
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In this issue a large article by Silvio Baier on Pronkin pieces in
proofgames. I'll post the originals in this article in another mail.
13819 - Alexander Yarosh
r2s2r1/pp5S/5s2/8/8/8/R6R/8 (3+6)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*R | . | |*S | | . |*R | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*P |*P | . | | . | | . | S |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | |*S | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| R | . | | . | | . | | R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Add 14 pawns, 5 officers and both kings for an IC.
13820 - Guy Sobrecases
1krs2sr/pp3ppp/8/1qbppb2/8/3S4/PPP1PPPP/RSBQKBSR (16+15)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| |*K |*R |*S | | . |*S |*R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*P |*P | . | | . |*P |*P |*P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . |*Q |*B |*P |*P |*B | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | S | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| P | P | P | . | P | P | P | P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Proofgame in 11.5
b) Sd3->c3
13821 - Jorge Joaquin Lois, Roberto Osorio
5bsr/p3pppp/1p1p1s2/2p2b2/6kP/P5Pr/KPPPPP2/RS1Q1B2 (13+15)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | |*B |*S |*R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*P | | . | |*P |*P |*P |*P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| |*P | |*P | |*S | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | |*P | | . |*B | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . |*K | P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| P | | . | | . | | P |*R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| K | P | P | P | P | P | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| R | S | . | Q | . | B | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Proofgame in 20.5
13822 - Michel Caillaud
br3bsr/pk1p1p2/pq3p1p/6B1/3Q1PB1/7S/PP2PP1P/RS1K3R (14+13)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*B |*R | | . | |*B |*S |*R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*P |*K | . |*P | . |*P | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*P |*Q | | . | |*P | |*P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | | B | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | Q | | P | B | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | | . | S |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| P | P | | . | P | P | | P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| R | S | . | K | . | | . | R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Proofgame in 21.0
13823 - Silvio Baier
sb4s1/rppbp2p/4pp2/q2k3p/1r6/1p6/1PP1PP1P/RSBQKBSR (13+16)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*S |*B | | . | | . |*S | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*R |*P |*P |*B |*P | | . |*P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . |*P |*P | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*Q | | . |*K | . | | . |*P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| |*R | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . |*P | . | | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | P | P | . | P | P | | P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Proofgame in 26.5
13824 - Bernd Gr?frath
Dedicated to Wolfgang Dittmann's 75th birthday
rsbqK3/p1pppp2/8/8/1p6/4P3/PPPP1P1P/RSBQk2R (13+11)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*R |*S |*B |*Q | K | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*P | |*P |*P |*P |*P | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| |*P | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | P | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| P | P | P | P | | P | | P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| R | S | B | Q |*K | | . | R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Capturechess
a) Minimal number of king moves?
b) Proofgame in 10.5
13825 - Dragan Petrovi?
8/6p1/6P1/P1PPkPP1/1PRrqSpS/1PKpppBB/1spr1spp/4b1Qb (15+16)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | |*P | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . | P | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| P | | P | P |*K | P | P | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | P | R |*R |*Q | S |*P | S |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | P | K |*P |*P |*P | B | B |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| |*S |*P |*R | |*S |*P |*P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | |*B | | Q |*B |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Shortest resolution (Circe)
13826 - G?nther Weeth
Dedicated to Thomas Brand
S3b3/k1S1PPpp/P5Pq/1s1Ks2p/8/6P1/1p3b2/2rr4 (8+12)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| S | . | | . |*B | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*K | | S |[*]| P | P |*P |*P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| P | . | | . | | . | P |*Q |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . |*S | . | K |*S | | . |*P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | | P | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| |*P | | . | |*B | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | |*R |*R | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Magic square d7, Anticirce
-10 & #1, Proca retractor
13827 - Klaus Wenda
8/8/PpK5/bp6/bP6/kr1Q4/gPR1B3/2r1R3 (8+8)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| P |*P | K | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*B |*P | . | | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*B | P | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*K |*R | . | Q | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
|*G | P | R | . | B | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | |*R | | R | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Grasshopper a2, Anticirce
-4 & #1, Proca retractor
13828 - Mario Richter, Thomas Brand
8/8/8/8/8/5s2/5kr1/7K (1+3)
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | | . | | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . |*S | . | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| | . | | . | |*K |*R | . |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
| . | | . | | . | | . | K |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Isardam
Last move? Black to move
13829 - Werner Keym
Dedicated to Thomas Brand' introduction
Construct an IC with as many pieces as possible on a straight line. The
piece that's farthest away from its homesquare is on a white square.
Original text:
Konstruiere ein Illegal Cluster mit m?glichst vielen Steinen auf einer
Geraden. Der von seinem Ursprungsfeld am weitesten entfernte Stein steht
auf wei?em Feld.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:50:04 +0200
From: Bernd Gr?frath <retromode@web.de>
Subject: Re: [Retros] Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008
To: The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List <retros@janko.at>
Message-ID: <1145004728@web.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
Hello,
there are some problems how to translate the fairy condition
"Schlagschach" into other languages. (And even in German, there are
other names for it, for example "R?uberschach"). Dawson used the name
"Losing Game", and nowadays, "Losing Chess" is most
generally accepted (and thus preferable to "Capturechess" and other
alternatives). In French, the name is "Qui perd gagne".
Best wishes,
Bernd
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Joost de Heer" <joost@sanguis.xs4all.nl>
> Gesendet: 21.08.08 18:43:41
> An: The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List <retros@janko.at>
> Betreff: [Retros] Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008
> In this issue a large article by Silvio Baier on Pronkin pieces in
> proofgames. I'll post the originals in this article in another mail.
>
> 13819 - Alexander Yarosh
> r2s2r1/pp5S/5s2/8/8/8/R6R/8 (3+6)
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*R | . | |*S | | . |*R | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*P |*P | . | | . | | . | S |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | |*S | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | R | . | | . | | . | | R |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> Add 14 pawns, 5 officers and both kings for an IC.
>
> 13820 - Guy Sobrecases
> 1krs2sr/pp3ppp/8/1qbppb2/8/3S4/PPP1PPPP/RSBQKBSR (16+15)
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | |*K |*R |*S | | . |*S |*R |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*P |*P | . | | . |*P |*P |*P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . |*Q |*B |*P |*P |*B | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | S | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | P | P | P | . | P | P | P | P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> Proofgame in 11.5
> b) Sd3->c3
>
> 13821 - Jorge Joaquin Lois, Roberto Osorio
> 5bsr/p3pppp/1p1p1s2/2p2b2/6kP/P5Pr/KPPPPP2/RS1Q1B2 (13+15)
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | |*B |*S |*R |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*P | | . | |*P |*P |*P |*P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | |*P | |*P | |*S | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | |*P | | . |*B | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . |*K | P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | P | | . | | . | | P |*R |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | K | P | P | P | P | P | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | R | S | . | Q | . | B | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> Proofgame in 20.5
>
> 13822 - Michel Caillaud
> br3bsr/pk1p1p2/pq3p1p/6B1/3Q1PB1/7S/PP2PP1P/RS1K3R (14+13)
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*B |*R | | . | |*B |*S |*R |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*P |*K | . |*P | . |*P | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*P |*Q | | . | |*P | |*P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | | B | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | Q | | P | B | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | | . | S |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | P | P | | . | P | P | | P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | R | S | . | K | . | | . | R |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> Proofgame in 21.0
>
> 13823 - Silvio Baier
> sb4s1/rppbp2p/4pp2/q2k3p/1r6/1p6/1PP1PP1P/RSBQKBSR (13+16)
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*S |*B | | . | | . |*S | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*R |*P |*P |*B |*P | | . |*P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . |*P |*P | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*Q | | . |*K | . | | . |*P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | |*R | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . |*P | . | | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | P | P | . | P | P | | P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> Proofgame in 26.5
>
> 13824 - Bernd Gr?frath
> Dedicated to Wolfgang Dittmann's 75th birthday
> rsbqK3/p1pppp2/8/8/1p6/4P3/PPPP1P1P/RSBQk2R (13+11)
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*R |*S |*B |*Q | K | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*P | |*P |*P |*P |*P | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | |*P | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | P | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | P | P | P | P | | P | | P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | R | S | B | Q |*K | | . | R |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> Capturechess
> a) Minimal number of king moves?
> b) Proofgame in 10.5
>
> 13825 - Dragan Petrovi??
> 8/6p1/6P1/P1PPkPP1/1PRrqSpS/1PKpppBB/1spr1spp/4b1Qb (15+16)
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | |*P | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . | P | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | P | | P | P |*K | P | P | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | P | R |*R |*Q | S |*P | S |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | P | K |*P |*P |*P | B | B |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | |*S |*P |*R | |*S |*P |*P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | |*B | | Q |*B |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> Shortest resolution (Circe)
>
> 13826 - G?nther Weeth
> Dedicated to Thomas Brand
> S3b3/k1S1PPpp/P5Pq/1s1Ks2p/8/6P1/1p3b2/2rr4 (8+12)
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | S | . | | . |*B | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*K | | S |[*]| P | P |*P |*P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | P | . | | . | | . | P |*Q |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . |*S | . | K |*S | | . |*P |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | | P | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | |*P | | . | |*B | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | |*R |*R | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> Magic square d7, Anticirce
> -10 & #1, Proca retractor
>
> 13827 - Klaus Wenda
> 8/8/PpK5/bp6/bP6/kr1Q4/gPR1B3/2r1R3 (8+8)
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | P |*P | K | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*B |*P | . | | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*B | P | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*K |*R | . | Q | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> |*G | P | R | . | B | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | |*R | | R | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> Grasshopper a2, Anticirce
> -4 & #1, Proca retractor
>
> 13828 - Mario Richter, Thomas Brand
> 8/8/8/8/8/5s2/5kr1/7K (1+3)
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . |*S | . | |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | | . | | . | |*K |*R | . |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> | . | | . | | . | | . | K |
> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
> Isardam
> Last move? Black to move
>
> 13829 - Werner Keym
> Dedicated to Thomas Brand' introduction
>
> Construct an IC with as many pieces as possible on a straight line. The
> piece that's farthest away from its homesquare is on a white square.
>
> Original text:
> Konstruiere ein Illegal Cluster mit m?glichst vielen Steinen auf einer
> Geraden. Der von seinem Ursprungsfeld am weitesten entfernte Stein steht
> auf wei?em Feld.
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:51:39 +0200
From: "Andrej Jakobcic" <andrej.jakobcic@guest.arnes.si>
Subject: Re: [Retros] Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008
To: "The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List" <retros@janko.at>
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Hi!
Is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichess and
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A4uberschach of any help?
Best,
Andrej
2008/8/22 Bernd Gr?frath <retromode@web.de>:
> Hello,
>
> there are some problems how to translate the fairy condition
"Schlagschach" into other languages. (And even in German, there are
other names for it, for example "R?uberschach"). Dawson used the name
"Losing Game", and nowadays, "Losing Chess" is most
generally accepted (and thus preferable to "Capturechess" and other
alternatives). In French, the name is "Qui perd gagne".
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Bernd
>
>
>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: "Joost de Heer" <joost@sanguis.xs4all.nl>
>> Gesendet: 21.08.08 18:43:41
>> An: The Retrograde Analysis Mailing List <retros@janko.at>
>> Betreff: [Retros] Die Schwalbe Heft 232, august 2008
>
>
>> In this issue a large article by Silvio Baier on Pronkin pieces in
>> proofgames. I'll post the originals in this article in another
mail.
>>
>> 13819 - Alexander Yarosh
>> r2s2r1/pp5S/5s2/8/8/8/R6R/8 (3+6)
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*R | . | |*S | | . |*R | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*P |*P | . | | . | | . | S |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | |*S | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | R | . | | . | | . | | R |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> Add 14 pawns, 5 officers and both kings for an IC.
>>
>> 13820 - Guy Sobrecases
>> 1krs2sr/pp3ppp/8/1qbppb2/8/3S4/PPP1PPPP/RSBQKBSR (16+15)
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | |*K |*R |*S | | . |*S |*R |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*P |*P | . | | . |*P |*P |*P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . |*Q |*B |*P |*P |*B | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | S | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | P | P | P | . | P | P | P | P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> Proofgame in 11.5
>> b) Sd3->c3
>>
>> 13821 - Jorge Joaquin Lois, Roberto Osorio
>> 5bsr/p3pppp/1p1p1s2/2p2b2/6kP/P5Pr/KPPPPP2/RS1Q1B2 (13+15)
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | |*B |*S |*R |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*P | | . | |*P |*P |*P |*P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | |*P | |*P | |*S | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | |*P | | . |*B | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . |*K | P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | P | | . | | . | | P |*R |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | K | P | P | P | P | P | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | R | S | . | Q | . | B | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> Proofgame in 20.5
>>
>> 13822 - Michel Caillaud
>> br3bsr/pk1p1p2/pq3p1p/6B1/3Q1PB1/7S/PP2PP1P/RS1K3R (14+13)
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*B |*R | | . | |*B |*S |*R |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*P |*K | . |*P | . |*P | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*P |*Q | | . | |*P | |*P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | | B | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | Q | | P | B | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | | . | S |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | P | P | | . | P | P | | P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | R | S | . | K | . | | . | R |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> Proofgame in 21.0
>>
>> 13823 - Silvio Baier
>> sb4s1/rppbp2p/4pp2/q2k3p/1r6/1p6/1PP1PP1P/RSBQKBSR (13+16)
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*S |*B | | . | | . |*S | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*R |*P |*P |*B |*P | | . |*P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . |*P |*P | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*Q | | . |*K | . | | . |*P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | |*R | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . |*P | . | | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | P | P | . | P | P | | P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | R | S | B | Q | K | B | S | R |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> Proofgame in 26.5
>>
>> 13824 - Bernd Gr?frath
>> Dedicated to Wolfgang Dittmann's 75th birthday
>> rsbqK3/p1pppp2/8/8/1p6/4P3/PPPP1P1P/RSBQk2R (13+11)
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*R |*S |*B |*Q | K | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*P | |*P |*P |*P |*P | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | |*P | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | P | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | P | P | P | P | | P | | P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | R | S | B | Q |*K | | . | R |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> Capturechess
>> a) Minimal number of king moves?
>> b) Proofgame in 10.5
>>
>> 13825 - Dragan Petrovi?
>> 8/6p1/6P1/P1PPkPP1/1PRrqSpS/1PKpppBB/1spr1spp/4b1Qb (15+16)
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | |*P | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . | P | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | P | | P | P |*K | P | P | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | P | R |*R |*Q | S |*P | S |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | P | K |*P |*P |*P | B | B |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | |*S |*P |*R | |*S |*P |*P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | |*B | | Q |*B |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> Shortest resolution (Circe)
>>
>> 13826 - G?nther Weeth
>> Dedicated to Thomas Brand
>> S3b3/k1S1PPpp/P5Pq/1s1Ks2p/8/6P1/1p3b2/2rr4 (8+12)
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | S | . | | . |*B | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*K | | S |[*]| P | P |*P |*P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | P | . | | . | | . | P |*Q |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . |*S | . | K |*S | | . |*P |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | | P | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | |*P | | . | |*B | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | |*R |*R | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> Magic square d7, Anticirce
>> -10 & #1, Proca retractor
>>
>> 13827 - Klaus Wenda
>> 8/8/PpK5/bp6/bP6/kr1Q4/gPR1B3/2r1R3 (8+8)
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | P |*P | K | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*B |*P | . | | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*B | P | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*K |*R | . | Q | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> |*G | P | R | . | B | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | |*R | | R | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> Grasshopper a2, Anticirce
>> -4 & #1, Proca retractor
>>
>> 13828 - Mario Richter, Thomas Brand
>> 8/8/8/8/8/5s2/5kr1/7K (1+3)
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | | . | | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . |*S | . | |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | | . | | . | |*K |*R | . |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> | . | | . | | . | | . | K |
>> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>> Isardam
>> Last move? Black to move
>>
>> 13829 - Werner Keym
>> Dedicated to Thomas Brand' introduction
>>
>> Construct an IC with as many pieces as possible on a straight line.
The
>> piece that's farthest away from its homesquare is on a white
square.
>>
>> Original text:
>> Konstruiere ein Illegal Cluster mit m?glichst vielen Steinen auf einer
>> Geraden. Der von seinem Ursprungsfeld am weitesten entfernte Stein
steht
>> auf wei?em Feld.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/retros
>>
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