# [Retros] Sam Loyd's Cyclopedia of Puzzles; Fabel's source again

Mario Richter mri_two at t-online.de
Mon Nov 16 06:43:32 EST 2009

Hello Bernd,

> Like Mario, I would be very interested in early sources which ascribe the problem to Loyd.

> Of course it would be best if the original publication (by Loyd or Fischer) in a magazine

> could be found.

(Brownson's) Chess Journal, Third Series, No.142, Dec.1890, p.4 has the following problem:

2721. Curiosa

w: Nd8 Rg8 Kd6 Pf3 Pd2 Qb1 Bg1 Rh1
b: Pa7 Pb7 Pf7 Pg6 Pc4 Kd4 Pd3 Pe3 Ph3 Pf2

(FEN: 3N2R1/pp3p2/3K2p1/8/2pk4/3ppP1p/3P1p2/1Q4BR)

Remove a P, and mate in one move.

If you look at it, you will see, that the only difference to the
Fischer-or-Loyd-problem is, that instead of a white Bg2 a wPf3 is used,
so I don't think that your explanation

>... it is also possible that Fischer contributed originals to Weiss's book...

works here ...

Btw., on the same page, there is also

2722. By E.Barbe

w: Ra7 Pf6 Pg6 Qb5 Rh5 Bc4 Bd4 Ke4
b: Kh8 Pb7 Ph7 Na6 Pc6 Ph6 Pe5 Pf4 Rg4 Pd3 Pf3 Bc2 Pe2 Qg2 Re1

(FEN: 7k/Rp5p/n1p2PPp/1Q2p2R/2BBKpr1/3p1p2/2b1p1q1/4r3)

Remove a P, and mate in one move.

The intended solution
-b7: QRh7 (Ra7xh7#)
-c6: Qe8#
-e5: Pf7#
-h6: KRh7 (Rh5xh7#)
-h7: KRh6 (Rh5xh6#)
-f6: Be5

shows, that neither the 9-pawn-illegality (s. -f6) nor illegalities by
invalid capture balances (s. -b7) were the main focus of such problems
at that time.

Best regards,

mario