[Retros] Building a complete and friendly retro library

[Otto Janko]

Hi Oliver & ALL,


> Some remarks. I think it would be even more valuable, if it 

> would be embedded in a larger chess problem wiki intended fot 

> the larger community of all problemists. 


This could be a second step. A larger audience may help to add non-retro
content, but does not really help to build a wiki/database as intended by
Roberto.


> - Especially things like fairy chess conditions, author 

> informations,...are of general value for all problemists. 


True. We have to decide where to go: Chess in general or primarily Retro.
Maybe we should start small, which also helps to establish some structure in
the Wiki.


> - I know of some problemists who are working on a fairy 

> (offline) chess encyclopedia. Perhaps they could be motivated 

> to participate in an online fairy encyclopedia.


Can you alert these problemists to join the RML?

~ÔttÔ~

 


> -----Original Message-----

> From: retros-bounces at janko.at 

> [mailto:retros-bounces at janko.at] On Behalf Of Oliver Sick

> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:26 AM

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> Subject: Re: [Retros] Building a complete and friendly retro library

> 

> Hello,

> 

> Very good idea. Thanks to Otto Janko and good luck.

> 

> Some remarks. I think it would be even more valuable, if it 

> would be embedded in a larger chess problem wiki intended fot 

> the larger community of all problemists. 

> 

> Good reasons are:

> 

> - A wiki would grow faster if more people were involved. And 

> in fact there are other attempts to establish a problem chess 

> wiki (eg. I´ve set up a very very early and raw wiki at 

> cpwiki.oliversick.de, at this stage it is not more than a 

> playground ).  Involving a bigger audience helps to promote 

> such an amibitious project like a wiki.

> 

> - Especially things like fairy chess conditions, author 

> informations,...are of general value for all problemists. If 

> there were several sources for chess problem definitions  the 

> real  danger of inconsistent informations would be given. 

> 

> - I know of some problemists who are working on a fairy 

> (offline) chess encyclopedia. Perhaps they could be motivated 

> to participate in an online fairy encyclopedia.

> 

> What do you think? 

> 

> 

> 

> Best

> Oliver Sick

> 

> ----- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -----

> Von: raosorio at fibertel.com.ar

> An: retros at janko.at

> Gesendet: 17.05.08 15:05

> Betreff: [Retros] Building a complete and friendly retro library

> 

> 

> Hi friends,

> 

> We were discussing with Nicolas Dupont about the necessity of 

> having an ordered,

> complete and friendly source to easily get the PGs state of 

> the art in every respect.

> 

> We were focussed on PGs but after some interaction with Otto 

> Janko this concept

> was extended to all the retroanalysis specialties.

> 

> Otto informed us that he started some time ago a retro-wiki 

> targeted to build such a

> source but this initiative had no too much success in the RML.

> 

> It's perhaps a matter of communication, so I propose to start 

> it again. We agreed with

> Otto that the best way would be to participate the retro 

> community via this RML

>  in order to structure the wiki (which is as far as I 

> understand a very flexible tool) altogether.

> 

> I would like to remark what I have in mind: there are many 

> problems, articles, Awards,

> comments, definitions, etc, published all over the world; an 

> endless ocean to be

> navigated lonely. When one is trying to go deeper with 

> something it's a must to start 

> from its state of the art, but how to get it?

> 

> Magazines are the original source for most problems, 

> articles, etc, but places like the

> Retrocorner are the natural (and indispensable) secondary 

> source; other way, how to

> put the pieces altogether?

> 

> This should be started by an Otto's message indicating what 

> we should define first in

> order to build the wiki structure. The wiki is a tool and 

> this initiative will make sense if

> the retroexperts collaborate filling it with contents; other 

> way, it would be an empty vessel.

> 

> (http://retrowiki.janko.at/.  is already fully functional; 

> nevertheless we should wait 

> to edit it until some agreement about the desired structure 

> is reached on the RML).

> 

> Some messages from the retro community supporting this 

> initiative would be very appreciated.

> 

> Best,

> Roberto Osorio

> 

> 

> 

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