[Retros] Cook-reporting

Ryan M. DoubleExclam at comcast.net
Sun Mar 7 14:28:40 EST 2004

When Andrey notified the list that Lytton's problem was cooked, that
served as a good warning not to bother solving it. However, I would
have liked to see the cook.

Thus, my broadcasting of this cook serves as a notice to other solvers
on the retro list that the problem is unsound. They don't have to read
my post if they wish to find the cook for themself.

Solving is done on the honor system already. A solver who would send in
my cook as if he found it would likely cheat in other ways.

-Ryan McCracken

-----Original Message-----
From: retros-admin at janko.at [mailto:retros-admin at janko.at] On Behalf Of
Otto Janko
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 10:54 AM
To: Retros
Subject: [Retros] FW: Cook-reporting

On behalf of Andrey Frolkin, who sent this mail - which is clearly
for the Retro Mailing List - to my private address:

-----Original Message-----
From: afretro at yandex.ru [mailto:afretro at yandex.ru]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 6:13 AM
To: otto at janko.at
Subject: Cook-reporting

Hi folks,
Back on February 5 I wrote,

> R345 by Cedric Lytton (The Problemist, January 2004) appears to be

> cooked. Would a report on the cook to the Retro Corner be the right

> thing to do, or should I send a personal message to Dr. Lytton?

Tom Volet replied,

> It seems appropriate to inform the composer of a cook before

> broadcasting it generally (and I have received such tactful notices on

> more occasions than I wish to recall). In the absence of an address

> for the composer, the cook can be communicated to the editor of the

> journal of publication.

Following yesterday-s message by Ryan McCracken on a cook in Paul
SPG 12182, I believe we should decide once and for all whether or not it
appropriate in such cases to report cooks ?publicly.│ As a matter of
fact, I
discovered a cook in 12182 immediately after the problem had appeared in
Retro Corner and I wrote to Paul about it (acting on Tom-s advice);
then, Paul tried to correct it more than once and I do hope his efforts
eventually yield ?non-cooked fruit.│ I feel one reason why it might be
quite fitting to publicly report cooks in just-published originals is
some solvers would probably be tempted to send the cook to the editor as
they had found it on their own and thus add a few extra points to their
overall score in the solvers- ladder. If no solver points are involved,
if a composer gives a correction of a problem which is already declared
cooked in the magazine where it was originally published, then I feel it
perfectly OK for someone who discovers a cook in that correction to show
to the members of the Retro Corner society. Yours most faithfully,
Frolkin Kiev, March 7, 2004

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