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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>He states that he’s getting heat on both sides of the
windshield. That heat needs to be dehumidified; hence the A/C compressor
should be engaged and the system fully charged, otherwise, the defroster won’t
be very effective.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
r129list-bounces@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-bounces@mbcoupes.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>chris wadlow<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SL Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [R129 SL] 1991 300sl, defrost problem?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hi, Sounds like you have a leak in your
heater matrix. Is the engine loosing coolant ?<br>
Chris.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: satish@tummala.net<br>
To: grwdew@bellsouth.net; r129list@mbcoupes.com<br>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:00:03 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] 1991 300sl, defrost problem?<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Are you certain that the A/C compressor is engaging? It
should be on when the defroster is on.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
r129list-bounces@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-bounces@mbcoupes.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Gail & Doug Wolvington<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> r129list@mbcoupes.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [R129 SL] 1991 300sl, defrost problem?</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:blue'>My 1991 300sl has a new problem, now that it has gotten
cooler. When it is cold the windshield fogs up, I put it on defrost does
not get any better on drivers side (it is putting out warm-hot air on both
sides on windshield.) I have tried have just warm air only coming out on
windshield & then tried on windshield-floor button. Fog up so
bad hard to see & keep it wiped so I can see.</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:blue'>After some time it will clear up & then its fine.....problem
occurs on start up.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Lately, I have tried not to have any heat coming out, that seems to
keep windshield from fogging but is bit chilly. </span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:blue'>any suggestions?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Gail
& Doug Wolvington</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>1991
300sl</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Bossier
City, LA</span></strong><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>
<strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:grwdew@bellsouth.net"
title="mailto:grwdew@bellsouth.net CTRL + Click to follow link">grwdew@bellsouth.net</a></span></strong></span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>< /DIV> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:r129list-request@mbcoupes.com"
title="mailto:r129list-request@mbcoupes.com CTRL + Click to follow link">r129list-request@mbcoupes.com<
/A> </a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue'><a href="mailto:r129list-request@mbcoupes.com"
title="mailto:r129list-request@mbcoupes.com CTRL + Click to follow link">Sent:<span
style='font-weight:normal'> Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:15 AM</span></a></span></u></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue'><a href="mailto:r129list-request@mbcoupes.com"
title="mailto:r129list-request@mbcoupes.com CTRL + Click to follow link">To:<span
style='font-weight:normal'> </span></a><a href="mailto:r129list@mbcoupes.com"
title="mailto:r129list@mbcoupes.com CTRL + Click to follow link"><span
style='font-weight:normal'>r129list@mbcoupes.com</span></a></span></u></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> R129LIST Digest,
Vol 47, Issue 3</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Today's Topics:<br>
<br>
1. r129 sticky window (gerhard stefandl)<br>
2. STEPHANIE AUTRY/MACL/TEKNOR APEX COMPANY is out of the<br>
office. (<a href="mailto:sautry@teknorapex.com">sautry@teknorapex.com</a>)<br>
&n bsp; 3. Re: r129 sticky window (Rob Vonderhaar)<br>
4. Re: r129 Transmission "clicks" in reverse only.
(mid-co)<br>
5. How to make it GO? (Steven A Hiett)<br>
6. Re: How to make it GO? (Jonathan Hodgman)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:05:52 -0700<br>
From: "gerhard stefandl" <<a href="mailto:gstefandl@cox.net">gstefandl@cox.net</a>><br>
Subject: [R129 SL] r129 sticky window<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:r129list@mbcoupes.com">r129list@mbcoupes.com</a>><br>
Messa ge-ID: <<a href="mailto:2F38743E58384E089286DF9DA4A56290@JerryPC">2F38743E58384E08928
6DF9DA4A56290@JerryPC</a>><br>
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I have a '94 sl500 and suddenly the window jams when I lower it. I'm
figuring that the drive mechanism is worn, but I can't get the door panel off ,
and am afraid to yank on it too much, for fear of cracking it. Can anyone
advise how this is done. Also, does anyone have advise about the window
mechanism.<br>
<br>
Thanks for the help.<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:01:22 -0800<br>
From: <a href="mailto:sautry@teknorapex.com">sautry@teknorapex.com</a><br>
Subject: [R129 SL] STEPHANIE AUTRY/MACL/TEKNOR APEX COMPANY is out of<br>
the office.<br>
To: SL Mailing List <<a href="mailto:r129list@mbcoupes.com">r129list@mbcoupes.com</a>><br>
Messa ge-ID:<br>
<<a
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I will be out of the office starting 12/12/2008 and will not return until<br>
12/15/2008.<br>
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I will respond to your message when I return.<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:50:03 -0500<br>
From: Rob Vonderhaar <<a href="mailto:rob@robvonder.com">rob@robvonder.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] r129 sticky window<br>
To: SL Mailing List <<a href="mailto:r129list@mbcoupes.com">r129list@mbcoupes.com</a>><br>
Messa ge-ID:<br>
<<a
href="mailto:2DE8297FCF695442ADD3AC01CFE611581CAC6E74B0@VMBX103.ihostexchange.net">2DE8297FCF695442ADD3AC01CFE611581CAC6E74B0@VMBX103.ihostexchangene
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Here's a link to step-by-step instructions for removing an R129 door panel
(even includes color photos!). I've used these myself and they're
perfect: <a href="http://www.astro-nut.com/mb-door.html">http://www.astro-nut.com/mb-d
oor.html</a><br>
<br>
Can't give you much advice about the mechanism without first getting the door
panel off and taking a look. You'll probably find a problem with either
the motor or regulator. I had similar trouble with my '95 where I first
started getting a loud metallic "clank" sound when the driver-side
window reached the full-down position. The problem continued to get worse
until the window jammed about halfway down and wouldn't move in either
direction.<br>
<br>
After pulling the door panel, the problem turned out to be the window motor
itself, which mounts to the inside of the door frame with three bolts (the
regulator is actually riveted to the door frame). The OEM Bosch motor had
a black molded plastic body - the bolts pass through the holes in the door
frame, then through some metal standoffs/spacers about ?" long, and
finally into plastic 'posts' in the motor body. An incredibly stupid
design, because there's huge torque on those three motor mounts as the tiny
motor gear drives the window regulator up and down. Eventually, the
plastic posts into which the mounting bolts fit cracked into pieces (I found
several at the bottom of the door cavity), and this lets the motor flex or even
move when torque is applied. The 'clank' sound turned out to be the motor
gear jumping its teeth against the regulator, which also destroyed the gear
teeth over time. Only fix was to replace the whole motor assembly.<br>
<br>
If you do find yours broken this way, shop around: I located a used motor
on eBay from a 1992 SL at about half the cost, but more importantly, it turned
out to be made by a different OEM in the earlier cars and had a nice cast metal
body instead of the cheap plastic used on the newer cars (plastic is also used
on new replacement motors). The metal body also didn't require the use of
spacers, so the whole assembly is much stronger and more stable. While I
had everything apart, I also re-greased the regulator gear and the vertical
tracks until I could manually pull the glass up and down smoothly and with
little effort. It works like new, and no more problems since then.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps!<br>
Rob Vonderhaar<br>
Leesburg, VA<br>
<br>
PS - If you haven't done it yet, you might want to think about replacing the
door strap at the same time. It's a $25 part that frequently breaks on the
older cars, and takes only minutes to replace while you've got the door torn
apart. Otherwise, you'll have the fun of ripping it all apart again later
like I did... :)<br>
<br>
From: <a href="mailto:r129list-bounces@mbcoupes.com">r129list-bounces@mbcoupes.com<
/A> [mailto:r129list-bounces@mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of gerhard stefandl<br>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 4:06 PM<br>
To: </a><a href="mailto:r129list@mbcoupes.com">r129list@mbcoupes.com</a><br>
Subject: [R129 SL] r129 sticky window<br>
<br>
I have a '94 sl500 and suddenly the window jams when I lower it. I'm
figuring that the drive mechanism is worn, but I can't get the door panel off ,
and am afraid to yank on it too much, for fear of cracking it. Can anyone
advise how this is done. Also, does anyone have advise about the window
mechanism.<br>
<br>
Thanks for the help.<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:26:05 -0600<br>
From: "mid-co" <<a href="mailto:mid-co@ix.netcom.com">mid-co@ix.netcom.com</a>><br>
Subject : Re: [R129 SL] r129 Transmission "clicks" in reverse only.<br>
To: "SL Mailing List" <<a href="mailto:r129list@mbcoupes.com">r129list@mbcoupes.com</a>><br>
Messa ge-ID: <<a href="mailto:09CD2C3E3B5248DFB3C555DB424736E0@AndrewPC">09CD2C3E3B5248DFB3
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<br>
Thanks for the good advice on the 129 elec<br>
window motors.<br>
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<br>
I have a 1995 , sl 500.<br>
<br>
Has anyone experienced a "clicking" when the<br>
Transmission is in reverse and under load ?<br>
( no clicking when rolling backwards).<br>
Other than the clicking in reverse , the<br>
transmission shifts like it's brand new.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.<br>
<br>
Bruce in Nashville.<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:29:00 -0800<br>
From: "Steven A Hiett" <<a href="mailto:shiett@charter.net">shiett@charter.net</a>><br>
Subject: [R129 SL] How to make it GO?<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:r129list@mbcoupes.com">r129list@mbcoupes.com</a>><br>
Messa ge-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:20081214052903.DLO128.aarprv06.charter.net@steveiseuq03mz">20
081214052903.DLO128.aarprv06.charter.net@steveiseuq03mz</a>><br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Where and how can I obtain information about souping up our 1992 SL?<br>
Recently we purchased a 1992 500SL w/92,000 miles. Though clean and with
a<br>
good history it required some catch-up maintenance. After running the MB<br>
Service info gauntlet we now have enough information (factory authorized CD,<br>
Service introduction manual for the 1990 SL series - thanks<br>
BooksForCars.com) to address most normal service issues. What I've not<br>
found is information about modifications and parts to boost the performance<br>
and reliability. What standard formulas would a professional MB specialty<br>
shop employ that a handy enthusiast might be able to do on their own? Are<br>
there articles available where these Pros share their knowledge? Living
in<br>
Central Washington offers plenty of great roads for driving the SL but not<br>
many (any) independent MB shops or clubs. Help.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
; -Thanks, Steve Hiett<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:36:16 -0500<br>
From: "Jonathan Hodgman" <<a href="mailto:jhodgman@gmail.com">jhodgman@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] How to make it GO?<br>
To: "SL Mailing List" <<a href="mailto:r129list@mbcoupes.com">r129list@mbcoupes.com</a>><br>
Messa ge-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:1d2f90170812140736r17fd9125n455de929e7b0a706@mail.gmail.com">
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Hello Steve,<br>
<br>
Well, your options are limited to be quite honest.. Options are build a
6L<br>
varient w/ stand alone fuel/spark.. Or, engineer a rear mount turbo<br>
setup.. I beleive Kleemann or someone similar had or was working on<br>
centrifugal blower for the SL's, but cost was around 25K or there about.<br>
<br>
In short there is No easy/inexpensive means by which one can make these cars<br>
faster. You already have the 'hottest' SL by owning a 92.<br>
Only other option that would net a few HP would be a custom exhaust from the<br>
manifolds back, but expect that to run around 2K if done correctly.<br>
<br>
If a 6L is of interest we can provide you with said motor and stand alone<br>
fuel/spark management.<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
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Blue Ridge Mercedes/AMG East<br>
Offering Enthusiast Service, Restoration and Tuning.<br>
Providing quality parts to discriminating customers in all parts of the<br>
world.<br>
Located in the Greater Atlanta area.<br>
<a href="http://www.blueridgemb.com/">http://www.blueridgemb.com</a><br>
404 805 1357<br>
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