From TomandKaren4 at comcast.net  Wed Oct  1 14:13:47 2008
From: TomandKaren4 at comcast.net (TomandKaren)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:13:47 -0600
Subject: [R129 SL] Windshield wiper
In-Reply-To: <000501c9200a$d19403b0$0202a8c0@medion1>
References: <000501c9200a$d19403b0$0202a8c0@medion1>
Message-ID: <48E3BDDB.4040803@comcast.net>

Jan, thanks for the reply. Where are the 3 screws located, underneath 
the wiper? Do I have to remove the whole thing from the cowl? I don't 
see any screws on the top.
Tom

Jan Kuylaars wrote:
> Tom.
> 
> The wipermotor stops in the middle of the windshield, so i
> take off the housing ( 3 screws) from the wipermotor, bend the three
> contactlips down so that the contactpoints were aligned with the three
> contactrings and after cleaning the contactrings and replace the greese,
> everything works fine for 10 months.
> 
> After that time the wiper stay's for a second in the middle , and then
> go on.
> I heard a click in the box on the right side from the car, where a lot
> off electronics is settled.
> I followed the cable from the wipermotor to the control box ,
> disconnected the connector, and take out the control unit.
> Ir was full of relay's with big contactpoints. I saw that some points
> was burned-in. Tooke a smal piece off very little sandpaper and cleaned
> the contactpoints. In the meantime the wiper system works without
> problems for three jears.
> 
> Jan The flying Dutchmen
> 
> 500SL
> C240 combi
> Mazda 929 coupe
> Kawasaki 1000GTR
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> [mailto:r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com] Namens TomandKaren
> Verzonden: maandag 22 september 2008 16:47
> Aan: r129list at mbcoupes.com
> Onderwerp: [R129 SL] Windshield wiper
> 
> 




From mid-co at ix.netcom.com  Wed Oct  1 17:22:42 2008
From: mid-co at ix.netcom.com (mid-co)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:22:42 -0500
Subject: [R129 SL] Shift nob.
In-Reply-To: <48E3BDDB.4040803@comcast.net>
References: <000501c9200a$d19403b0$0202a8c0@medion1>
	<48E3BDDB.4040803@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <63E05ABBB4EE42B591D9841BFA021167@AndrewPC>

Here's a simple question ...

I just got a new shift knob for my
'95 SL 500 .  How do I remove
the factory Shift Knob ?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Bruce in Nashville.

From gjenner at nc.rr.com  Thu Oct  2 09:16:36 2008
From: gjenner at nc.rr.com (George Jenner)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:16:36 -0400
Subject: [R129 SL] Shift nob.
In-Reply-To: <63E05ABBB4EE42B591D9841BFA021167@AndrewPC>
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Bruce, it has been about 3 yrs. since I replaced the original shifter knob
on my 1996 SL500 but if I remember correctly there is a black plastic collar
on the lower end of the knob which unscrews.  I think that released the knob
so that it could be lifted off the shifter lever and the new knob is just
the reverse procedure.  When I was doing the job I started out by lifting
off the top emblem thinking that was the key but that did nothing but damage
the knob so when I got the new knob I was able to see that it was the bottom
collar which was key to the operation.

George




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From J.kuylaars at kpnplanet.nl  Thu Oct  2 16:04:32 2008
From: J.kuylaars at kpnplanet.nl (Jan Kuylaars)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:04:32 +0200
Subject: [R129 SL] Windshield wiper
In-Reply-To: <48E3BDDB.4040803@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001b01c924ca$15c0f250$0202a8c0@medion1>

Tom.
The wiper blades are mounted on a eccentric that is put under your
windshield.
This eccentric is driven by an electric motor that is placed on the left
side under the cover.
So you must first pull the plastic cover on the left side of .
Put you motor hood in the most upright position, look to the plastic
covers with air holes in front of the wiper.
There are 2 pieces , left and right. For the motor it is enough to
remove the left You can unscrew the screws you can see in the middle
near the wiper arm. At the left side the screws are hidden behind the
cover. You can see a hole with four triangle . Put your Philips
screwdriver true this hole and unscrew the screw for some turns. It is
not necessary to screw out the screw complete, because the cover is with
one side open mounting. Pull the left cover to the left of the car. 

Now you can see the wiper motor.
On top of the wiper motor you can the wires from the harness.
The are welded on the contact points.
The cover plate is fasten with three screws.
Take off your battery cable, or follow the harness to the driver box,
located in space left behind the motor, and take of the connector from
the box !! 
Unscrew these three screws and you can take of the cover.
You will see that there are cupper contact point which are mend to come
on the disc inside the motor.
Most of the time the points are become flat on one side and the fetter
power is gone.
Take a file ore sandpaper and clean the points so that the are round
again.
Bend the fetters wider from the cover, so that there will be contact
power again.
Try to let the contact points laying with the flat side straight on the
disc.
On the disc is some grease that is out of the contact strip, This is
special grease to prevent corroding.
Put the grease with your finger back to the contact strip before you
pace the cover back.

Put the connector back and test the wipers.
If all is OK, its ok.

If you still have problems, disconnect the battery and the wiper motor
connector , and take out the driver box.
Carefully open the box and see there are a lot of relay's.
Take a fine sandpaper and clean the contact points on both sides .
Re assemble everything and most of the time your problems are gone.

Jan

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Verzonden: woensdag 1 oktober 2008 20:14
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Onderwerp: Re: [R129 SL] Windshield wiper


Jan, thanks for the reply. Where are the 3 screws located, underneath 
the wiper? Do I have to remove the whole thing from the cowl? I don't 
see any screws on the top.
Tom

Jan Kuylaars wrote:
> Tom.
> 
> The wipermotor stops in the middle of the windshield, so i take off 
> the housing ( 3 screws) from the wipermotor, bend the three 
> contactlips down so that the contactpoints were aligned with the three

> contactrings and after cleaning the contactrings and replace the 
> greese, everything works fine for 10 months.
> 
> After that time the wiper stay's for a second in the middle , and then

> go on. I heard a click in the box on the right side from the car, 
> where a lot off electronics is settled.
> I followed the cable from the wipermotor to the control box ,
> disconnected the connector, and take out the control unit.
> Ir was full of relay's with big contactpoints. I saw that some points
> was burned-in. Tooke a smal piece off very little sandpaper and
cleaned
> the contactpoints. In the meantime the wiper system works without
> problems for three jears.
> 
> Jan The flying Dutchmen
> 
> 500SL
> C240 combi
> Mazda 929 coupe
> Kawasaki 1000GTR
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com 
> [mailto:r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com] Namens TomandKaren
> Verzonden: maandag 22 september 2008 16:47
> Aan: r129list at mbcoupes.com
> Onderwerp: [R129 SL] Windshield wiper
> 
> 



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From J.kuylaars at kpnplanet.nl  Thu Oct  2 16:22:30 2008
From: J.kuylaars at kpnplanet.nl (Jan Kuylaars)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:22:30 +0200
Subject: [R129 SL] Shift nob.
In-Reply-To: <001e01c92491$1935e4b0$4ba1ae10$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c924cc$98676110$0202a8c0@medion1>

That is for cars after 1996.But you can see it if there is a black
plastic piece at the bottom.
Before 1996 the knob is out of one piece with the shifter and at the end
is a screw with a nut.
So you must dissamble your mid console, and loose the nut. Then you can
turn out the complete shifter with knob.
Replace  the other way around.

Take off midconsole:
Turn ignition switch off. 
Remove radio. 
Remove Climate Control/Heater Control Panel. 
Screw (1) in center of oddments tray unscrew. 
Bend oddments tray inwards at upper corners (arrows), press forward and
remove at corners.
 CAUTION : Do not use tools with sharp edges to remove the oddments tray
to prevent damaging the wood cover (6). If necessary the oddments tray
can be lifted with a small installation hook at the center screw hole
(arrow). 

Unscrew screws (2 and 3) below oddments tray. 
Press cover (6) to left out of catch at rear and lift at right. 
Press cover (6) to right out of catch at rear and lift at left. 
Lift cover (6) at rear and pull downward out of upper catches. 
Pull off plug connections on switches. 
Remove cover (6). 
Reinstall in opposite order. 
Perform general function test.

IF YOU FIND THIS TO DIFFECULT, YOU COULD DO LIKE I DID; TAKE OF THE
COVER FROM THE SHIFT, PUT IT AS HIGH AS YOU CAN TO THE KNOB AND FASTEN
WITH TAPE. TAKE A RIGHT WRENCH AND SAW OUT THE THICKNESS OFF THE
SHIFTERARM. PUT THE WRENCH OVER THE ARM DOWN INTO THE GEARBOX TO LOOSE
THE NUT. YOU MUST HAVE  WRENCH WICH IS DEEP ENOUGH TO DO SO.
THEN YOU MUST TAKE EXTRA CARE WITH THE SWITCH WHAT IS MOUNTED AT THE
RIGHT SIDE AND IS CONTROLED BY THE SHIFTERARM.
IT MUST BE SET AT THE SAME PLACE BEFORE AND AFTER CHANGING THE ARM  IF
NOT YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH STARTING ENGINE, 


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[mailto:r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com] Namens George Jenner
Verzonden: donderdag 2 oktober 2008 15:17
Aan: 'SL Mailing List'
Onderwerp: Re: [R129 SL] Shift nob.


Bruce, it has been about 3 yrs. since I replaced the original shifter
knob on my 1996 SL500 but if I remember correctly there is a black
plastic collar on the lower end of the knob which unscrews.  I think
that released the knob so that it could be lifted off the shifter lever
and the new knob is just the reverse procedure.  When I was doing the
job I started out by lifting off the top emblem thinking that was the
key but that did nothing but damage the knob so when I got the new knob
I was able to see that it was the bottom collar which was key to the
operation.

George




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From TomandKaren4 at comcast.net  Wed Oct  8 13:21:14 2008
From: TomandKaren4 at comcast.net (TomandKaren)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:21:14 -0600
Subject: [R129 SL] Windshield wiper
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Jan, thank you for the detailed information. I filed the contact points 
in the relay and, viola!, no more stopping in mid stroke. All is well.

Never did figure out how to get the cover off  to grease the cam 
mechanism, but that will be a project for another day.

Many thanks to you and others who responded.

Tom
Fort Collins, CO

From wendell.johnston1 at btinternet.com  Thu Oct  9 12:53:31 2008
From: wendell.johnston1 at btinternet.com (Wendell Johnston)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:53:31 +0100
Subject: [R129 SL] R129LIST Digest, Vol 45, Issue 3
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Hi, I got round the problem of removing the metal cover by drilling a small
hole in bottom of the cover just big enough to take the straw from an
aerosol spray. Then a couple of squirts of white lithium grease as required.
Bish bash bosh, job done!

Regards to all Wendell.

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Jan, thank you for the detailed information. I filed the contact points 
in the relay and, viola!, no more stopping in mid stroke. All is well.

Never did figure out how to get the cover off  to grease the cam 
mechanism, but that will be a project for another day.

Many thanks to you and others who responded.

Tom
Fort Collins, CO


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From TomandKaren4 at comcast.net  Thu Oct  9 17:18:04 2008
From: TomandKaren4 at comcast.net (TomandKaren)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:18:04 -0600
Subject: [R129 SL] R129LIST Digest, Vol 45, Issue 3
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Thanks, Wendell,  I never would have thought of doing that.

Tom

From J.kuylaars at kpnplanet.nl  Tue Oct 14 19:04:56 2008
From: J.kuylaars at kpnplanet.nl (Jan Kuylaars)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:04:56 +0200
Subject: [R129 SL] Windshield wiper
In-Reply-To: <48ECEC0A.8030300@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001701c92e51$465fc540$0202a8c0@medion1>

Tom,

Simply let the wiper turn into the middle of the windscreen and then
shut of the contact.
Now the wiper arm is maximum out and you can oil the arm what is out the
cover.
Let the wiper turn again and repeat this 3-4 times.
It is enough to grease the system for normal conditions.

Jan.

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Onderwerp: Re: [R129 SL] Windshield wiper


Jan, thank you for the detailed information. I filed the contact points 
in the relay and, viola!, no more stopping in mid stroke. All is well.

Never did figure out how to get the cover off  to grease the cam 
mechanism, but that will be a project for another day.

Many thanks to you and others who responded.

Tom
Fort Collins, CO
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From seitle at whidbey.com  Wed Oct 15 13:32:53 2008
From: seitle at whidbey.com (seitle)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:32:53 -0700
Subject: [R129 SL] Seat Heater
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The seat heaters on my 96 SL work with the exception of the driver seat 
bottom. The back is OK. I would suspect a connector, but I can't easily get 
to it. What else could be wrong? Can anyone help?

Rolf Seitle 


From deneals at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 15 13:59:30 2008
From: deneals at sbcglobal.net (Deneal Schilmeister (iMac) SBC)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:59:30 -0500
Subject: [R129 SL] Seat Heater
In-Reply-To: <BA3A4CC1328F4067BA3C4DD825222033@rolf05we7eawlr>
Message-ID: <C51B99B2.55B4%deneals@sbcglobal.net>

On 10/15/08 12:32 PM, "seitle" <seitle at whidbey.com> wrote:

> 
> The seat heaters on my 96 SL work with the exception of the driver seat
> bottom. The back is OK. I would suspect a connector, but I can't easily get
> to it. What else could be wrong? Can anyone help?
> 
> Rolf Seitle 

I would also be interested in any answers to this question;  My drivers'
seat back heater does not seem to work.

Also interested in anyone's experience with restoring the seat bottom on the
seat.

On Merecedes built in the 70s and 80s it was a common failure for the seat
spring box to break.  However my independent Mercedes-only mechanic says the
problem was resolved in later cars, and he doubts the spring box is the
culprit.  Yet the symptom on my seat is very similar to a broken seat spring
box.

-- 
Deneal Schilmeister
1997 SL500  136k
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm




From J.kuylaars at kpnplanet.nl  Tue Oct 28 21:31:44 2008
From: J.kuylaars at kpnplanet.nl (Jan Kuylaars)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:31:44 +0100
Subject: [R129 SL] Seat Heater
In-Reply-To: <BA3A4CC1328F4067BA3C4DD825222033@rolf05we7eawlr>
Message-ID: <000401c93966$1a0e4500$0202a8c0@medion1>

Unscrew the 2 Philips screws down on the front from the bottom and pull
the bottom forward.
The bottom AND the connector come loose. Measure the connector for
voltage with seat heat switch on.
Is there power there is a loose contact in the connector, but I don't
believe in it.
I have the same problem and the connectors were good.
There should be properly a broken part in the seat heating cord.
I must take off my leather cloth for repair, so when I do so I will
check the cord and can give instructions.
I believe the cord can be connected together .
It is resistance wire, so turn the loose parts together with some turns
and it will function again.

SO if you have more time then me, maybe you can instruct us how to do.

Suc6

Jan flying Dutchmen

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Onderwerp: [R129 SL] Seat Heater




The seat heaters on my 96 SL work with the exception of the driver seat 
bottom. The back is OK. I would suspect a connector, but I can't easily
get 
to it. What else could be wrong? Can anyone help?

Rolf Seitle 

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From J.kuylaars at kpnplanet.nl  Tue Oct 28 21:34:33 2008
From: J.kuylaars at kpnplanet.nl (Jan Kuylaars)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:34:33 +0100
Subject: [R129 SL] Seat Heater
In-Reply-To: <C51B99B2.55B4%deneals@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <000501c93966$7f40f260$0202a8c0@medion1>

Daniel you can trade with Rolf, then there will be one SL fixed.
Joke,
You must unscrew your backcover and loose the backrest for finding the
wire.
Jan

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SBC
Verzonden: woensdag 15 oktober 2008 20:00
Aan: SL Mailing List
Onderwerp: Re: [R129 SL] Seat Heater


On 10/15/08 12:32 PM, "seitle" <seitle at whidbey.com> wrote:

> 
> The seat heaters on my 96 SL work with the exception of the driver 
> seat bottom. The back is OK. I would suspect a connector, but I can't 
> easily get to it. What else could be wrong? Can anyone help?
> 
> Rolf Seitle

I would also be interested in any answers to this question;  My drivers'
seat back heater does not seem to work.

Also interested in anyone's experience with restoring the seat bottom on
the seat.

On Merecedes built in the 70s and 80s it was a common failure for the
seat spring box to break.  However my independent Mercedes-only mechanic
says the problem was resolved in later cars, and he doubts the spring
box is the culprit.  Yet the symptom on my seat is very similar to a
broken seat spring box.

-- 
Deneal Schilmeister
1997 SL500  136k
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm



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