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[Frederic Madre]

At 19:43 16/05/00 +0200, A! wrote:
>yes and I guess I am surprised to not see more of that dialog going on
>in lists across the net.

it's nonetheless a very crucial topic, the one of "success" for online stuff (let's not talk of art, please)

this is why there is 
popular pleine-peau

and not 
succesful pleine-peau

how does one measure success ? does one need it ?
this is why I said I was glad you got the money, not the prize
I understand the need for money, the prize not

I do not understand also _lots_ of things about this particular competition
why does the sfmoma need the webbys to award something, for instance ?

street cred ?!

>  maybe those concerned online just don't want to discuss it anymore or are hanging out in neigborhoods where they all agree....

I think we have been disagreeing right here quite a lot! 
let's disagree + qu'hier.

> > and the antagonism with
> >  >the blinking-pixel fake-virus green-on-black semi-political
> > > >pseudo-critical "low-tech poser copy-paste" crap may be numbered.
> >
> > I find surprising
>
>in so far as what has been pushed as 'experiment' we've actually seen very little 'experimentation'

mmm, but this phrase could also be interpreted easily as a direct stab at jodi.org
but let's get back on track

>sick of so called 'experiment'
>
>need some 'action'

there is very little experiment without action
in fact, experimentation is pure action

so, let's call this something else than experiment
you shoot first, maybe by giving examples of experimentation

for me vrml is experimentation
which fails

>don't be fake
>http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html
>
>be real........
>http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-1837495.html?tag=st.cn.1.lthdne

eh
but your work is quite far from online terrorism
no ?

computer viruses are not fiction

 > dank u.
it's heartfelt, too.

f.