Fwd: Re: a few words on french spam art, list casualties and user value : story for today

Y yann@x-arn.org
Tue, 09 May 2000 03:24:44 +0200


>00:08 09/05/00, [iatsu.pavu.com] wrote:
>
>>Since autumn '99, singular email machines have been created by french
>>netsters and artists. Starting point was an announcement sent on lists by
>>clement (cofounder of pavu) for an exhibition in which a large number of
>>email addresses appeared in error in carbon copy (and not in BCC). Quickly
>>this list of people from the art world would be used again and again by
>>artists (it reappears from time to time still in CC like an internet moby
>>dick).
>
>
>well , let's discuss this story of spam art
>
>there are no direct relations between this fact and the following=20
>development of
>spam machines. The effect is just the regular opposite :
>
>- CC vs BCC > the unfortunate CC list quickly caused the crash of many=
 systems
>because there was some lists in it, where you should subscribed and others=
=20
>not.
>after one or two days , we had mailboxes closed by server during 6 hours.
>so this is a potential effect of this kind of spam which is not real spam=
=20
>in fact.
>
>- spam machines are web based interfaces where you can write to a list,=
 where
>people are subscribers.
>
>so i don't see where you find a link between this kind of error from=
 clement
>and some spam machines...tell us more.
>
>
>>In the same time, frederic madre, editor of the french magazine=
 pleine-peau
>>- had set the palais-tokyo list which parallelled an international
>>exhibition of net art personalities in a french museum. Shortly after the
>>show closed and the list got less active, frederic would launch his "spam"
>>machine and begin talking of "Spam Art" (although the term may not be=
 really
>>accurate).
>
>it's as far as i know the first one i saw.
>
>
>>(is it a flame/spam war or not??
>
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